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The Lens

He just tweeted a video of himself from WRMC.  He looks pretty good.  Suit coat, open collar. I wouldn't know he was sick. 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

reinko

Yes, totally normal, and this seems 100% accurate.

wadesworld

#177
Quote from: reinko on October 03, 2020, 06:30:01 PM
Yes, totally normal, and this seems 100% accurate.

Lol I thought the same thing. Locked up in my bedroom or locked up in a hospital room. Tough choice.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Lens on October 03, 2020, 06:09:01 PM
He just tweeted a video of himself from WRMC.  He looks pretty good.  Suit coat, open collar. I wouldn't know he was sick.

That was the fake Trump Soros hired as part of the deep state coup to install Sharia Law
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Only the best people...

@jaketapper: The president is in the hospital with COVID-19 and the White House is putting out zero guests for the Sunday shows to explain what's going on while also forcing administration health experts to cancel pre-planned interviews.

forgetful

Very early on in this I indicated that the most likely therapeutic to deliver a major boost to fighting this disease were the monoclonal antibody cocktails. I indicated they could be scaled up fast if needed.

Trump was given one of those drugs and seems to being doing well. Problem is, it won't be available to the rest of us anytime soon.

This was a major strategical error. As part of operation "warp speed" the government should have invested in the production of these antibody cocktails months ago, and did parallel phase 1/2 trials like they did for the vaccines. Had they done so, we could have millions of doses or Regeneron and similar medicines available right now, or very shortly.

This wasn't done.

cheebs09

Quote from: BLM on October 03, 2020, 06:37:34 PM
Lol I thought the same thing. Locked up in my bedroom or locked up in a hotel room. Tough choice.

Was that his hospital justification or him saying why he kept going to events? I took it as the latter.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: forgetful on October 03, 2020, 07:03:53 PM
Very early on in this I indicated that the most likely therapeutic to deliver a major boost to fighting this disease were the monoclonal antibody cocktails. I indicated they could be scaled up fast if needed.

Trump was given one of those drugs and seems to being doing well. Problem is, it won't be available to the rest of us anytime soon.

This was a major strategical error. As part of operation "warp speed" the government should have invested in the production of these antibody cocktails months ago, and did parallel phase 1/2 trials like they did for the vaccines. Had they done so, we could have millions of doses or Regeneron and similar medicines available right now, or very shortly.

This wasn't done.

While we can't make up for lost time, maybe this whole situation will accelerate govt investment in this area...

pbiflyer

Quote from: The Lens on October 03, 2020, 06:09:01 PM
He just tweeted a video of himself from WRMC.  He looks pretty good.  Suit coat, open collar. I wouldn't know he was sick.

https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1312534750725201920?s=21

Trump coughed here after the word "therapeutics" and it was edited out using the morph cut feature in @AdobePremiereCC

wadesworld

Quote from: pbiflyer on October 03, 2020, 08:53:11 PM
https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1312534750725201920?s=21

Trump coughed here after the word "therapeutics" and it was edited out using the morph cut feature in @AdobePremiereCC

I was wondering what that was.

Babybluejeans

Trump faked a photo of him "working" from the hospital.  https://mobile.twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1312589379945275393

It's also become clear that the Rose Garden ceremony Trump hosted without social distancing and masks was a superspreader event.

Now that's just great leadership in a crisis.

The Sultan

Sounds like he is doing well. Still not completely out of the woods but it's looking good.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

mu_hilltopper

We need to check the use of "super spreader." 

How about .. under 5 = minor spreader
10-20 - regular spreader
21-30 - super spreader
31+ hyper spreader.  nucear?  godzilla?

Let's get on this.

Warriors4ever


pbiflyer

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 04, 2020, 10:48:49 AM
Sounds like he is doing well. Still not completely out of the woods but it's looking good.

Not that this doctor has ever given out less than accurate info, but medical folks are pointing out some discrepancies in his treatment.

So dexamethasone was found to be beneficial ONLY in patients on a ventilator OR on oxygen. NOT on patients who don't need oxygen. There was even the possibility of harm in that patient population.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Craig_A_Spencer/status/1312783564111568896


forgetful

#190
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 04, 2020, 10:48:49 AM
Sounds like he is doing well. Still not completely out of the woods but it's looking good.

Typically most patients do not develop severe enough disease to warrant hospitalization until day 5-8 of the illness. We are only at day 4, that we know of, so although he is doing well caution should be observed.

Severe illness that warrants ICU care can take up to 2-weeks to occur. The question going forward is to how his body will respond as the disease progresses.

So far so good, likely due to the best care in the world.

edit: A turn for the worse here would be an incredibly bad sign. At this point they've exhausted all treatment options. So if things get worse, they don't have any more weapons to deploy.

pbiflyer

The doctor said expected findings.

From a radiologist friend:

As a radiologist who was been diagnosing and monitoring Covid-19 patients since March ...

The "expected findings" in Covid-19 are multi-focal ground glass opacicities (GGOs). To simplify - He has Covid-19 viral pneumonia. That's why they put him on the steroids too.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 04, 2020, 10:48:49 AM
Sounds like he is doing well. Still not completely out of the woods but it's looking good.

That seems to contradict what his docs are saying.

Trump's oxygen levels dropped and he was given dexamethasone, potentially signaling a 'severe' case of Covid-19

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/04/world/trump-covid-live-updates?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#trumps-oxygen-levels-dropped-and-he-was-given-dexamethasone-potentially-signaling-a-severe-case-of-covid-19

Once you have had O2 sats that low at any point, there is a very real risk for a relapse 7-10 days out.

HutchwasClutch

#193
Quote from: GooooMarquette on October 04, 2020, 01:57:02 PM
That seems to contradict what his docs are saying.

Trump's oxygen levels dropped and he was given dexamethasone, potentially signaling a 'severe' case of Covid-19

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/04/world/trump-covid-live-updates?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#trumps-oxygen-levels-dropped-and-he-was-given-dexamethasone-potentially-signaling-a-severe-case-of-covid-19

Once you have had O2 sats that low at any point, there is a very real risk for a relapse 7-10 days out.

So why was the update from his doctor today he may be discharged from WR as soon as tomorrow?

reinko

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on October 04, 2020, 02:13:40 PM
So why was the update from the White House doctor today he may be discharged from WR as soon as tomorrow?

Yes, why is the important question a WH doctor (not a Walter Reed physician), may say these things.

The Lens

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on October 04, 2020, 02:13:40 PM
So why was the update from his doctor today he may be discharged from WR as soon as tomorrow?

The same reason they announced he would go to the hospital after the markets closed on Friday.  They're doing whatever they can to keep uncertainty / panic down.  And I think most admins would do the same. 

The proof is in the pudding.  If Trump is home by Monday / Tuesday, he probably has a good chance of resuming a normal workload.  If he's still there Tuesday night, that's a big tell.   
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Frenns Liquor Depot

#196
Even if you have the view that the administration is giving us good information, I find it hard to pick out Which of it to believe. Meadows, the team of white coats that got the start point 'wrong', the guy says he wanted to reflect the positive message of the White House?   

I'm still following the doctor community outside the White House and assume we will know what happens after the fact from journalists.  In seven months it hasn't been a bad strategy. 

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 04, 2020, 10:48:49 AM
Sounds like he is doing well. Still not completely out of the woods but it's looking good.

This sums it all up perfectly where things stand today.  The rest of the conjecture is as always the left trying and hoping to find scandal and make political points. 

GooooMarquette

#198
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on October 04, 2020, 02:13:40 PM
So why was the update from his doctor today he may be discharged from WR as soon as tomorrow?


First, the doc said he "may" be discharged tomorrow. Nothing definitive.

Second, even if he is discharged, he will go to a place that has a nicely equipped hospital unit and a team of docs watching him 24/7.

Third, many patients have been discharged, only to return in far worse condition. One common denominator in many of those cases was low enough O2 saturation levels to require oxygen.

When you put all the facts together, there is plenty of reason for concern. Anyhow, I'm just giving my read. Choose to pay attention to - or ignore - the facts as you like.

Either way, I hope he recovers. No American is well-served by having the President hospitalized.

The Sultan

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on October 04, 2020, 02:36:48 PM
This sums it all up perfectly where things stand today.  The rest of the conjecture is as always the left trying and hoping to find scandal and make political points. 

Oh don't get me wrong. He knew the virus was deadly, encouraged people to act recklessly which resulted in thousands of deaths, and fell victim to his own recklessness.

It looks like he will survive. But he's a reflection of his own failures.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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