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MUScoop => The Superbar => COVID-19 => Topic started by: GooooMarquette on October 01, 2020, 11:18:09 PM
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Trump quarantining after White House adviser Hope Hicks tests positive for COVID-19
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/5889312002?__twitter_impression=true
President Donald Trump announced he and the first lady are beginning to quarantine after White House adviser Hope Hicks tested positive for the coronavirus.
Hicks tested positive for the coronavirus after she traveled with Trump in the last few days, according to a person familiar with Hicks' situation.
Trump said he and Melania Trump took coronavirus tests and were awaiting results.
Jonathan Reiner, professor of medicine and surgery at the George Washington University, said in tweets that those who traveled with Trump this week should quarantine themselves.
“Since the president has been potentially exposed to the coronavirus, he should quarantine at home for 14 days and be separated from the Vice President to reduce the possibility that they both contract the virus," he said.
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We will see if he stays in for two weeks, as recommended by the physician quoted in the article.
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Trump quarantining after White House adviser Hope Hicks tests positive for COVID-19
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/5889312002?__twitter_impression=true
President Donald Trump announced he and the first lady are beginning to quarantine after White House adviser Hope Hicks tested positive for the coronavirus.
Hicks tested positive for the coronavirus after she traveled with Trump in the last few days, according to a person familiar with Hicks' situation.
Trump said he and Melania Trump took coronavirus tests and were awaiting results.
Jonathan Reiner, professor of medicine and surgery at the George Washington University, said in tweets that those who traveled with Trump this week should quarantine themselves.
“Since the president has been potentially exposed to the coronavirus, he should quarantine at home for 14 days and be separated from the Vice President to reduce the possibility that they both contract the virus," he said.
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We will see if he stays in for two weeks, as recommended by the physician quoted in the article.
I've seen contradicting information on this. Some reports say that he is quarantining, others say he plans to go to fundraising events and a Florida rally tomorrow, provided his test is negative.
Will be interesting to see if he actually quarantines.
Frankly, it would be surprising if he is already positive. If he indeed develops COVID, it would be a bit more likely in a couple days, unless of course his exposure was to some other third party that may have infected both Trump and Hicks.
Curious as to why there was such a delay in notifying everyone. Apparently they knew about this yesterday. Trump even attended a fundraiser today, after they knew about the exposure.
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Well that answers that. Trump COVID positive.
Something seems odd timeline wise, but that means that he was COVID positive during a fundraiser TODAY, that he attended despite knowing about exposure to Hicks.
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Well that answers that. Trump COVID positive.
Something seems odd timeline wise, but that means that he was COVID positive during a fundraiser TODAY, that he attended despite knowing about exposure to Hicks.
It was bound to happen eventually. If you play with fire, you will get burned.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/us/politics/trump-positive-coronavirus.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20201002&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline®i_id=88591053&segment_id=39618&user_id=a4394b6a5672354a123af665691a6f2d
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Dow futures plummeting by the minute on the Trump news.
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Other aspects. Who else is positive at this point. Other family members?
Flotus and Potus both could have been infectious at the debate. Was Biden exposed? Trump family members refused to wear masks, were any of them positive?
Things could get crazy.
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Other aspects. Who else is positive at this point. Other family members?
Flotus and Potus both could have been infectious at the debate. Was Biden exposed? Trump family members refused to wear masks, were any of them positive?
Things could get crazy.
Indeed.
Hopefully there was enough distance between Biden and Trump to prevent Biden from getting infected. It is potentially devastating for anyone to get it, but Biden has done the right things in terms of remote campaign events and wearing a mask in public.
As for the remainder of Trump’s family and traveling party…the flights and other traveling together make it hard to imagine there won’t be at least a few more. I really hope I am wrong about that.
And Pence needs to be sequestered as far away from people as possible....
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Hallie Jackson reports that Jim Jordan, exposed maskless to Hicks and both Trumps who now have Covid, is declining to quarantine.
Un-F*ing-believable!!!
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POTUS and FLOTUS test positive.
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Other aspects. Who else is positive at this point. Other family members?
Flotus and Potus both could have been infectious at the debate. Was Biden exposed? Trump family members refused to wear masks, were any of them positive?
Things could get crazy.
THIS IS 2020
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I am aware of all of the potential political implications. I won't dwell on them for a second. This is certainly nothing to celebrate. My only hope is that this finally breaks down the resistance of the anti-maskers. The deniers. That finally everybody takes it seriously and that everybody starts taking the necessary steps to slow infection. That the stupidity ends.
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I am aware of all of the potential political implications. I won't dwell on them for a second. This is certainly nothing to celebrate. My only hope is that this finally breaks down the resistance of the anti-maskers. The deniers. That finally everybody takes it seriously and that everybody starts taking the necessary steps to slow infection. That the stupidity ends.
Have I got news for you 🙁
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Wow.
Wowie wowie wow wow.
Wow.
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Have I got news for you 🙁
You can say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
You are probably correct. But I can hope.
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Biggest worry at this point is Biden. Have to hope that the distance was enough.
Hope Trump recovers fully so SDNY can still have their say.
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I am aware of all of the potential political implications. I won't dwell on them for a second. This is certainly nothing to celebrate. My only hope is that this finally breaks down the resistance of the anti-maskers. The deniers. That finally everybody takes it seriously and that everybody starts taking the necessary steps to slow infection. That the stupidity ends.
That only happens if he is gravely ill or dies.
Otherwise it will be "See! Even a 74 year old gets it and survives. What's the big deal?"
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That only happens if he is gravely ill or dies.
Otherwise it will be "See! Even a 74 year old gets it and survives. What's the big deal?"
This times a million
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Split this topic off from the COVID thread.
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Split this topic off from the COVID thread.
Since we have a COVID thread and a POTUS - COVID thread could we also get a POTUS thread? I think it would be interesting to hear others' opinions on our current President.
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nm
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Let's do some reasoning here. POTUS takes HCQ as a precaution and does not get covid. POTUS stops taking HCQ as a precaution and gets covid. Were rocketsurgeon and POTUS right all along? HCQ is the covid killer?
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Since we have a COVID thread and a POTUS - COVID thread could we also get a POTUS thread? I think it would be interesting to hear others' opinions on our current President.
Post of the year
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I wish everyone afflicted with COVID a speedy recovery.
But, how contact tracing and notifying those exposed to the president, his wife, and Hope Hicks was an outright failure. Trump was still holding fundraisers after being knowingly exposed, no one on the Biden campaign was notified, press on the plane were not notified. Quite frankly probably 100's exposed to them were not notified. They heard about it on the news.
There is a continuing lack of organization and responsiveness on everything COVID. That is nothing but gross negligence.
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Let's do some reasoning here. POTUS takes HCQ as a precaution and does not get covid. POTUS stops taking HCQ as a precaution and gets covid. Were rocketsurgeon and POTUS right all along? HCQ is the covid killer?
Let me repeat. I love sarcasm.
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They were telling him how to avoid getting COVID, but he kept interrupting.
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After learning he was exposed - up close and personal - he went to New Jersey for a fundraiser and mingling.
Once a creep, always a creep.
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They were telling him how to avoid getting COVID, but he kept interrupting.
Gonna have to combine this thread with Coronavirus Humor thread.
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The cynic in me says this whole thing is fake.
A reason to either garner sympathy or to delay/cancel the election. A few months ago, hardly anyone agreed with me that he would try to steal the election. Now we know better.
Maybe it's cuz I've watched this guy for 4 years now. Hard to believe anything the WH says.
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I wish the President and First Lady a speedy recovery. I fear that when that speedy recovery occurs, it will serve as a controlling narrative to worsen our nation's disorganized, haphazard and suspicious-bordering-on-conspiratorial response to covid. Everything sucks. Embrace nihlism. Eat at Arby's.
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Since we have a COVID thread and a POTUS - COVID thread could we also get a POTUS thread? I think it would be interesting to hear others' opinions on our current President.
I should ban you on the off chance you're not being sarcastic.
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I know it's unlikely, but in the event that POTUS and VP are out of commission due to Covid temporary powers are granted to Speaker of the House, wouldn't that galvanize his supporters more to enhance the narrative that there's a coup? We could be seeing some 4D chess here.
Or hopefully just guy refuses to acknowledge issue gets hit with dose of karma
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A big question is, who did POTUS and FLOTUS contract the virus from. The timeline for Hope Hicks doesn't make sense, since they exhibited symptoms and tested positive a day apart.
That means there was likely a common person of exposure for the three of them. Who else was present during that exposure?
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A big question is, who did POTUS and FLOTUS contract the virus from. The timeline for Hope Hicks doesn't make sense, since they exhibited symptoms and tested positive a day apart.
That means there was likely a common person of exposure for the three of them. Who else was present during that exposure?
Obama (sorry had to do it)
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A big question is, who did POTUS and FLOTUS contract the virus from. The timeline for Hope Hicks doesn't make sense, since they exhibited symptoms and tested positive a day apart.
That means there was likely a common person of exposure for the three of them. Who else was present during that exposure?
I was just reading that it is more than likely Hope Hicks contracted from the Trumps.
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Waddaya think, PA2, more political theater?
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The cynic in me says this whole thing is fake.
A reason to either garner sympathy or to delay/cancel the election. A few months ago, hardly anyone agreed with me that he would try to steal the election. Now we know better.
Maybe it's cuz I've watched this guy for 4 years now. Hard to believe anything the WH says.
I know it's unlikely, but in the event that POTUS and VP are out of commission due to Covid temporary powers are granted to Speaker of the House, wouldn't that galvanize his supporters more to enhance the narrative that there's a coup? We could be seeing some 4D chess here.
Or hopefully just guy refuses to acknowledge issue gets hit with dose of karma
Jonathan Smit
@enchantedboat
Replying to
@Popehat
The imaginations of conspiracy theorists inevitably vastly exceed the imaginative capacity of the imagined conspirators.
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Jonathan Smit
@enchantedboat
Replying to
@Popehat
The imaginations of conspiracy theorists inevitably vastly exceed the imaginative capacity of the imagined conspirators.
You couldn't read the sarcasm in my 4D chess comment? Didn't know teal was so necessary...
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Obama (sorry had to do it)
Lol.
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A big question is, who did POTUS and FLOTUS contract the virus from. The timeline for Hope Hicks doesn't make sense, since they exhibited symptoms and tested positive a day apart.
That means there was likely a common person of exposure for the three of them. Who else was present during that exposure?
My somewhat educated guess is they got it from Secret Service agents. More than a few of them have tested positive, and rumor has it that it is fairly rampant at the academy.
Now, when this gets spun as "DEEP STATE COUP" I will laugh.
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Deep state cough
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Now, when this gets spun as "DEEP STATE COUP" I will laugh.
Deep state cough
Deep State Croup^TM
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You couldn't read the sarcasm in my 4D chess comment? Didn't know teal was so necessary...
Or in mine. I literally said “I love sarcasm”. I just hope fluffy is careful when he dismounts from that high horse.
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A big question is, who did POTUS and FLOTUS contract the virus from. The timeline for Hope Hicks doesn't make sense, since they exhibited symptoms and tested positive a day apart.
That means there was likely a common person of exposure for the three of them. Who else was present during that exposure?
There was a report 2-3 weeks ago that someone in the WH tested positive. They didn't identify who, but that person is probably the spreader.
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RNC chairwoman tests positive.
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Sen. Mike Lee and now the President of Notre Dame, both at the WH last Saturday for the ACB announcement, no masks and no social distancing.
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I mean I shouldn't laugh but....
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1312071252132200448?s=20
Eric Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing
BREAKING: SCOTUS announcement attendee, Notre Dame President Reverend John Jenkins, who attended WH rose garden announcement on Saturday, tests #COVID19 positive now too. Like many others at #SCOTUS nom event, did not wear a mask and shook hands with many people.
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I mean I shouldn't laugh but....
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1312071252132200448?s=20
Eric Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing
BREAKING: SCOTUS announcement attendee, Notre Dame President Reverend John Jenkins, who attended WH rose garden announcement on Saturday, tests #COVID19 positive now too. Like many others at #SCOTUS nom event, did not wear a mask and shook hands with many people.
Was just reading the other day about how the student senate was voting to call for his resignation because he wasn't following his own rules.
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I was just reading that it is more than likely Hope Hicks contracted from the Trumps.
well, considering Hicks spends more time with Trump than FLOTUS (if you know what I mean, and I think you do) it's likely one passed it to the other.
I wonder who Melania got it from....
I won't celebrate but I will give a nod of respect to Karma.
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A big question is, who did POTUS and FLOTUS contract the virus from. The timeline for Hope Hicks doesn't make sense, since they exhibited symptoms and tested positive a day apart.
That means there was likely a common person of exposure for the three of them. Who else was present during that exposure?
Fallwell Jr.?
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Fallwell Jr.?
Falwell is probably safe. He probably kept back and observed.
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Sen. Mike Lee and now the President of Notre Dame, both at the WH last Saturday for the ACB announcement, no masks and no social distancing.
Is the proper societal protocol to pretend we care about any of these people?
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Is the proper societal protocol to pretend we care about any of these people?
Yeah, you have to publicly state that you hope they don't die.
Hopes and prayers.
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Notre Dame sucks
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Falwell is probably safe. He probably kept back and observed.
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Hopes and prayers. And hydroxy chloroquine.
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https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1309969814635646985?s=19
Video of Utah Senator Mike Lee this past weekend hugging people, shaking hands, at crowded White House Lawn Event.
He is also pictured here 3 days later in his office with Supreme Court Nominee, Amy Coney Barrett, both without masks.
Utah Senator Mike Lee tested positive for COVID-19.
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It's flabergasting to see videos of ceremonies with maskless Covid+ people hugging other people.
60% of the country wouldn't hug their own mothers these past 7 months.
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The Rose Garden Supreme Court Nominee event last weekend appears to be a superspreader event.
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It's flabergasting to see videos of ceremonies with maskless Covid+ people hugging other people.
60% of the country wouldn't hug their own mothers these past 7 months.
These are not smart people. They are also not anywhere close to being normal.
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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/2/1982837/-Is-the-timeline-we-re-being-given-for-Trump-s-COVID-19-infection-just-another-big-lie
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From the NYT:
Trump went ahead with a fund-raiser in New Jersey on Thursday even after Hope Hicks had tested positive for the coronavirus, the White House acknowledged on Friday.
As the news that Trump had tested positive himself upended the presidential campaign on Friday, new details emerged about how he spent the week. Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, told reporters that the president’s top aides learned of Hicks’s test result as Trump was leaving the White House by helicopter en route to Joint Base Andrews for the flight to New Jersey.
“We discovered as Marine One was taking off yesterday,” Meadows said on Friday. “We pulled some of the people traveling in close contact.”
But Trump went ahead with the trip and appeared before hundreds of supporters at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., both outside and indoors. Meadows did not explain why Trump proceeded with the trip to New Jersey knowing of Hicks’s condition, given her proximity to Trump.
At the fund-raiser, where the president came in contact with about 100 people, he seemed lethargic according to several in attendance.
So yes, even as he was asking supporters to fork over thousands and thousands of dollars, Trump was knowingly putting them all at risk of contracting a virus that he himself has called "5 times more deadly than even your strenuous flus."
Wow.
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The Rose Garden Supreme Court Nominee event last weekend appears to be a superspreader event.
ACB is negative.
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My somewhat educated guess is they got it from Secret Service agents. More than a few of them have tested positive, and rumor has it that it is fairly rampant at the academy.
Now, when this gets spun as "DEEP STATE COUP" I will laugh.
ayyyyyyyy
https://news.yahoo.com/outbreak-secret-training-center-underlines-123852397.html
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ACB is negative.
She had it over the summer, so likely had some antibodies around to help.
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I am aware of all of the potential political implications. I won't dwell on them for a second. This is certainly nothing to celebrate. My only hope is that this finally breaks down the resistance of the anti-maskers. The deniers. That finally everybody takes it seriously and that everybody starts taking the necessary steps to slow infection. That the stupidity ends.
I hope I win the lottery. I like my odds better than yours. But love your optimism.
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I hope I win the lottery. I like my odds better than yours. But love your optimism.
Trump had Hope, too.
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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/2/1982837/-Is-the-timeline-we-re-being-given-for-Trump-s-COVID-19-infection-just-another-big-lie
Both of today's presidential spokespeople gave their briefings about trump having covid......while not wearing masks.
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Waddaya think, PA2, more political theater?
When have I said anything was political theater?
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It's flabergasting to see videos of ceremonies with maskless Covid+ people hugging other people.
60% of the country wouldn't hug their own mothers these past 7 months.
There are still such a large number of people that still don't accept that COVID is happening and this disruption to 'normal' life is going to be with us for a not short amount of time.
I can see the attraction of these ceremonies and how this happens though. Group of people that haven't had a lot of personal impact. Everyone tested, exciting day, outside--low risk right?
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One would think that him knowingly putting deep-picketed supporters at risk would turn some supporters off, but by now I know better.
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Trump had Hope, too.
;D
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He'll be fine. He has top doctors working on it.
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He'll be fine. He has top doctors working on it.
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He looks like someone who played a doctor in one of the stormy Daniels movies
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Brent Spiner in Independence Day.
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Brent Spiner in Independence Day.
100% this
NO PEACE
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Why isn’t he taking hydroxychloroquine?
https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/1312123496902782976?s=21
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POTUS headed to Walter Reed.
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POTUS headed to Walter Reed.
That and the experimental cocktail doesn’t sound great.
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POTUS headed to Walter Reed.
Next to no information coming from the White House. If the Hope Hicks news didn't leak, what would the American people know? There is little reason to believe that he isn't in significantly worse shape than is being reported.
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Next to no information coming from the White House. If the Hope Hicks news didn't leak, what would the American people know? There is little reason to believe that he isn't in significantly worse shape than is being reported.
Patients don't deteriorate this quickly.
I'm going to actually believe that they're taking him there so he can be monitored constantly. UK messed up by not sending BoJo to the hospital early. No way that happens with a world leader again.
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So, if the vice president takes over, will that mean the Political process gets a come-up-Pence?
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So, if the vice president takes over, will that mean the Political process gets a come-up-Pence?
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Dad joke comedy gold.
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"He's never cared about us."
Secret Service on DT and their COVID-19 risks.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-seemed-to-defy-the-laws-of-science-and-disease-then-the-coronavirus-caught-up-with-him/2020/10/02/5b4c5232-04bf-11eb-897d-3a6201d6643f_story.html#click=https://t.co/R9WHzYevxO
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Another Rose Garden attendee, R-Sen Thom Tillis tested positive.
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At least 3 White House Journalists have tested positive for COVID-19 today
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Another Rose Garden attendee, R-Sen Thom Tillis tested positive.
This was his debate last night with Cal Cunningham.
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Another Rose Garden attendee, R-Sen Thom Tillis tested positive.
Yup, that definitely seems to be the superspreader event. Idiots without masks, shaking hands, hugging...reality biting them in the ass.
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A real-life US Senator has profound thoughts.
@KLoeffler: Remember: China gave this virus to our President @realDonaldTrump and First Lady @FLOTUS.
WE MUST HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
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A real-life US Senator has profound thoughts.
@KLoeffler: Remember: China gave this virus to our President @realDonaldTrump and First Lady @FLOTUS.
WE MUST HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
Thanos-esque long game from China
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The monoclonal antibodies are being used under something called ‘expanded access’ or ‘compassionate use,’ a provision in the FDA regulations for patients who have “an immediately life-threatening condition or serious disease or condition to gain access to an investigational medical product (drug, biologic, or medical device) for treatment outside of clinical trials when no comparable or satisfactory alternative therapy options are available.” When I have seen this provision used in the past, it was for people like end-stage cancer patients who had failed other treatment regimens and are literally on death’s door. In other words, a desperate Hail Mary pass.
Given that other therapeutic combinations (particularly vitamin C, zinc and dexamethasone) have shown great promise, the expanded access use of the antibodies tells me that he is more ill than they are letting on.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/public-health-focus/expanded-access
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The monoclonal antibodies are being used under something called ‘expanded access’ or ‘compassionate use,’ a provision in the FDA regulations for patients who have “an immediately life-threatening condition or serious disease or condition to gain access to an investigational medical product (drug, biologic, or medical device) for treatment outside of clinical trials when no comparable or satisfactory alternative therapy options are available.” When I have seen this provision used in the past, it was for people like end-stage cancer patients who had failed other treatment regimens and are literally on death’s door. In other words, a desperate Hail Mary pass.
Given that other therapeutic combinations (particularly vitamin C, zinc and dexamethasone) have shown great promise, the expanded access use of the antibodies tells me that he is more ill than they are letting on.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/public-health-focus/expanded-access
I don't think he is necessarily more ill than they are letting on. These monoclonal antibodies were the treatment that I though would come online first.
I think this is a case where it's the president, has a good safety profile, and he is 74. A 74 year old that may have had a stroke earlier this year. He likely had a high viral titer with no antibodies yet. He is the poster child of someone at great risk.
This was likely precautionary, so that he doesn't turn south...because if he does, I don't think he makes it.
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No mention of Chris Wallace confirming the Trump's purposely arrived late for the debate and left no time to be COVID-19 tested.
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I don't think he is necessarily more ill than they are letting on. These monoclonal antibodies were the treatment that I though would come online first.
I think this is a case where it's the president, has a good safety profile, and he is 74. A 74 year old that may have had a stroke earlier this year. He likely had a high viral titer with no antibodies yet. He is the poster child of someone at great risk.
This was likely precautionary, so that he doesn't turn south...because if he does, I don't think he makes it.
That is certainly possible as well.
Still, given the high success rates that have been reported recently with other regimens, I think it is very possible that he is gravely ill. The fact that we have not yet heard from the physicians treating him also raises concerns.
Anyhow, time will tell.
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The monoclonal antibodies are being used under something called ‘expanded access’ or ‘compassionate use,’ a provision in the FDA regulations for patients who have “an immediately life-threatening condition or serious disease or condition to gain access to an investigational medical product (drug, biologic, or medical device) for treatment outside of clinical trials when no comparable or satisfactory alternative therapy options are available.” When I have seen this provision used in the past, it was for people like end-stage cancer patients who had failed other treatment regimens and are literally on death’s door. In other words, a desperate Hail Mary pass.
Given that other therapeutic combinations (particularly vitamin C, zinc and dexamethasone) have shown great promise, the expanded access use of the antibodies tells me that he is more ill than they are letting on.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/public-health-focus/expanded-access
It may just be that normal rules don't apply when you're treating POTUS. And probably shouldn't.
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It may just be that normal rules don't apply when you're treating POTUS. And probably shouldn't.
I totally understand that, and agree.
Just putting some background facts out there for context. And again, it is not as though there are no other effective therapies available.
If he really is doing well, it would be good to hear it from his treating physicians. We knew far more about Reagan within a couple of hours of him being shot.
Guess we will see.
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Kellyanne Conway is COVID-19 positive. Her daughter has mentioned that her mom is showing symptoms.
(She spent a lot of time near Bill Barr at the superspreader event. No word yet on him)
https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/1312214949658152960?s=19
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KellyAnne Conway is COVID-19 positive. Her daughter has mentioned that her mom is showing symptoms.
(She spent a lot of time near Bill Barr at the superspreader event. No word yet on him)
https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/1312214949658152960?s=19
I may be out of it, but I thought her and her husband stepped away from their day jobs a few months ago?
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KellyAnne Conway is COVID-19 positive. Her daughter has mentioned that her mom is showing symptoms.
(She spent a lot of time near Bill Barr at the superspreader event. No word yet on him)
https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/1312214949658152960?s=19
Man Trump's mask answer from the debate is really not aging well.
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Man Trump's mask answer from the debate is really not aging well.
Not much he says does.
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These are a few photos from the superspreader event. You can pick out all of the COVID-19 positives in the photos thus far.
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I may be out of it, but I thought her and her husband stepped away from their day jobs a few months ago?
They are always grifting. It’s a full time job.
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And now Kellyanne Conway. She also was at the Rose Garden event.
@KellyannePolls: Tonight I tested positive for COVID-19. My symptoms are mild (light cough) and I’m feeling fine. I have begun a quarantine process in consultation with physicians.
As always, my heart is with everyone affected by this global pandemic. ❤️
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Kellyanne Conway is COVID-19 positive. Her daughter has mentioned that her mom is showing symptoms.
(She spent a lot of time near Bill Barr at the superspreader event. No word yet on him)
https://twitter.com/KellyannePolls/status/1312214949658152960?s=19
By the way Conway's daughter broke the news on Tik Tok and accused her mom of lying when her mom said repeatedly saying she was negative. Conway didn't want people to know. Later, Kellyanne confirmed she was COVID-19 positive.
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By the way Conway's daughter broke the news on Tik Tok and accused her mom of lying when her mom said repeatedly saying she was negative. Conway didn't want people to know. Later, Kellyanne confirmed she was COVID-19 positive.
Denial seems to know no bounds.
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"He's never cared about us."
Secret Service on DT and their COVID-19 risks.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-seemed-to-defy-the-laws-of-science-and-disease-then-the-coronavirus-caught-up-with-him/2020/10/02/5b4c5232-04bf-11eb-897d-3a6201d6643f_story.html#click=https://t.co/R9WHzYevxO
I feel badly for all the Secret Service agents, lower-level administration employees, White House staff, Air Force One employees, reporters, and various other relatively powerless people who were exposed by a "leader" who has refused to lead for most of a year now.
It's more difficult to feel compassion for those who not only denied the science but mocked those who accepted it.
I do admire Biden for the empathy he showed the first family during his campaign stop in Michigan today.
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That is certainly possible as well.
Still, given the high success rates that have been reported recently with other regimens, I think it is very possible that he is gravely ill. The fact that we have not yet heard from the physicians treating him also raises concerns.
Anyhow, time will tell.
It appears they are quite literally giving him everything. I saw reports that he is getting the Vitamin C, Zinc, Dex cocktail. He got Regeneron, and now tonight they have also given him Remdesivir.
I find this all quite odd. If you want to know the truth, I think Trump is freaked out and is demanding that he is given everything, and right now the doctors are obliging.
Either that, or he has some very serious underlying conditions that they are hiding from the rest of America. Some combination of underlying conditions that has the doctors and experts frightened enough to act extremely proactively.
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It appears they are quite literally giving him everything. I saw reports that he is getting the Vitamin C, Zinc, Dex cocktail. He got Regeneron, and now tonight they have also given him Remdesivir.
I find this all quite odd. If you want to know the truth, I think Trump is freaked out and is demanding that he is given everything, and right now the doctors are obliging.
Either that, or he has some very serious underlying conditions that they are hiding from the rest of America. Some combination of underlying conditions that has the doctors and experts frightened enough to act extremely proactively.
Wow - I didn’t know he was getting Remdesovir too. If that’s the case, you are probably right that he is simply demanding everything, or has more comorbidities than previously disclosed.
It renews my concern about the severity of his symptoms... and makes me wonder about the possibility of some unforeseen drug interaction. POTUS might be the first human being ever to receive both Remdesovir and the monoclonal antibodies. If so - wow.
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@Walldo: New from Politico: Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien tests positive
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/02/trump-campaign-manager-tests-positive-for-covid-19-425722
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Wow - I didn’t know he was getting Remdesovir too. If that’s the case, you are probably right that he is simply demanding everything, or has more comorbidities than previously disclosed.
It renews my concern about the severity of his symptoms... and makes me wonder about the possibility of some unforeseen drug interaction. POTUS might be the first human being ever to receive both Remdesovir and the monoclonal antibodies. If so - wow.
Agreed, he is likely the first human to be given both and it was confirmed by WH doctors.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519451-trump-given-remdesivir-as-treatment-for-covid-19-infection
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Agreed, he is likely the first human to be given both and it was confirmed by WH doctors.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519451-trump-given-remdesivir-as-treatment-for-covid-19-infection
The Robert Downey Jr. treatment.
Bizarro world....
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By the way Conway's daughter broke the news on Tik Tok and accused her mom of lying when her mom said repeatedly saying she was negative. Conway didn't want people to know. Later, Kellyanne confirmed she was COVID-19 positive.
This is not true. Daughter was spilling beans and trolling about her mom showing symptoms. Kellyanne later confirmed the news. Apparently daughter broke about the positive test about half hour before Kellyanne’s announcement. End of story. Kellyanne wasn’t putting out denials about it, and daughter was not accusing mom of lying either.
But your post is nearly all a lie. Stick to posts about tennis.
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These are a few photos from the superspreader event. You can pick out all of the COVID-19 positives in the photos thus far.
That is a lot of homely looking caucasians.
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But your post is nearly all a lie. Stick to posts about tennis.
Actually, both your posts are nearly all the truth. Your only quibble is whether kellyann was lying/thinking about lying... And I think we all know that wouldn't be her first time...
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Not The Onion...
Hydroxychloroquine Doctor is Furious Donald Trump Took 'Experimental Antibody Stupidness'
"A doctor notorious for claiming hydroxychloroquine is a "cure" for COVID-19 has denounced White House doctors for not giving President Donald Trump the drug to treat his infection.
Dr. Stella Immanuel, who gained fame in July after Trump retweeted a video showing her touting the malaria drug, expressed outrage in a series of tweets on Friday, condemning the medical decisions of "bozo doctors" who surrounded the president after he tested positive for COVID-19.
"Instead of giving the president of the United States a known safe drug," Immanuel tweeted. "They gave him some experimental antibody stupidness. This is so dumb. Please potus family you guys wake up. Give him HCQ, Zpack & zinc asap."
"Whoever told the president to stop taking HCQ should be punched in the face," she said in an earlier tweet. "This did not have to happened. I am so upset. This is our president for crying out loud. No one need to get sick or pcr positive."
https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-doctor-furious-donald-trump-took-experimental-antibody-stupidness-1536161
I'm with Dr. Stella on this one...
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Actually, both your posts are nearly all the truth. Your only quibble is whether kellyann was lying/thinking about lying... And I think we all know that wouldn't be her first time...
My post was all true.
By the way Conway's daughter broke the news on Tik Tok. Later, Kellyanne confirmed she was COVID-19 positive.
Fixed leaving only true statements.
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This is not true. Daughter was spilling beans and trolling about her mom showing symptoms. Kellyanne later confirmed the news. Apparently daughter broke about the positive test about half hour before Kellyanne’s announcement. End of story. Kellyanne wasn’t putting out denials about it, and daughter was not accusing mom of lying either.
But your post is nearly all a lie. Stick to posts about tennis.
Reading comprehension and receipts.
1) Go to Claudia Conway's 1 Mllion follower Tik Tok. I provided a few screen shots to get you started. You may want to check in with Kellyanne's husband too while doing that.
2) You admitted in your post that Claudia Conway broke the news. According to Kellyanne's family, Kellyanne didn't share this with her family and others while spending time with them and possibly infecting the whole family.
Stick to sports, stick to tennis, stick to this or that is often a response of those that either a) don't like the position someone takes on a topic while they do the exact same thing of discussing a variety of topics b) or in this case can't handle the neutral facts presented. If you want to stick to Kellyanne's "alternative facts" go ahead.
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Reading comprehension and receipts.
1) Go to Claudia Conway's 1 Mllion follower Tik Tok. I provided a few screen shots to get you started. You may want to check in with Kellyanne's husband too while doing that.
2) You admitted in your post that Claudia Conway broke the news. According to Kellyanne's family, Kellyanne didn't share this with her family and others while spending time with them and possibly infecting the whole family.
Stick to sports, stick to tennis, stick to this or that is often a response of those that either a) don't like the position someone takes on a topic while they do the exact same thing of discussing a variety of topics b) or in this case can't handle the neutral facts presented. If you want to stick to Kellyanne's "alternative facts" go ahead.
Where are the Tik Tok screen shots you supposedly provided?
I looked at multiple news accounts that included several screen shots from Tik Tok, and none validate what you said about mom lying that she was positive or daughter accusing her of lying.
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Where are the Tik Tok screen shots you supposedly provided?
I looked at multiple news accounts, none validate what you said about mom lying or daughter accusing her of lying.
Her daughter accused her mom of lying, she literally used the word "lying" According to her daughter, Kellyanne said multiple times that she did not have COVID-19 when she did, and putting others at risk.
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Her daughter accused her mom of lying, she literally used the word "lying" According to her daughter, Kellyanne said multiple times that she did not have COVID-19 when she did, and putting others at risk.
You’re repeating what you already said. Show me your source to validate what your saying is true.
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You’re repeating what you already said. Show me your source to validate what your saying is true.
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Here ya go. Enjoy.👍
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Here ya go. Enjoy.👍
Enjoy what? The emoji?
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You’re repeating what you already said. Show me your source to validate what your saying is true.
He literally attached the screenshots to his post.
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He literally attached the screenshots to his post.
See them now. I’m on my phone and screenshots don’t show up unless I go the post/ thread.
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Daughter accused her of lying. No news account had a thing about that and I read through 3 or 4 different ones.
So whether Kellyanne lied falls on if you believe at fave value and suspending all skepticism the rantings of a 15 year old privileged brat.
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Daughter accused her of lying. No news account had a thing about that and I read through 3 or 4 different ones.
So whether Kellyanne lied falls on if you believe at fave value and suspending all skepticism the rantings of a 15 year old privileged brat.
Kellyanne Conway and the Trump Administration have been paragons of truth and transperancy.
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See them now. I’m on my phone and screenshots don’t show up unless I go the post/ thread.
In conclusion, my post wasn't nearly all a lie, or, in fact, any of it.
Is this where I'm supposed to say stick to practicing reading screen shots?
The bigger picture of course is the long term pattern of downplaying COVID-19 all year, behaving recklessly, and encouraging others to do so. Why? For personal power and $$$.
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Daughter accused her of lying. No news account had a thing about that and I read through 3 or 4 different ones.
So whether Kellyanne lied falls on if you believe at fave value and suspending all skepticism the rantings of a 15 year old privileged brat.
Really? We're still going. Really.
I believe you have gaslighted enough on this micro topic of the larger COVID-19 superspreader White House event. I'll be moving on so others can get back to that.
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https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1312129925692813312?s=19
Chris Wallace said that Trump showed up too late to the debate to be tested for COVID-19, so they relied on the honor system.
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Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson is COVID-19 positive.
https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/1312379055698837504?s=19
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It may just be that normal rules don't apply when you're treating POTUS. And probably shouldn't.
If anything they should be more careful with the president, I think this strategy is insane. This strikes me (admittedly without direct evidence) as a powerful guy leaning on his doctors to throw everything at it to try to recover quickly to prove how strong he is and that the virus isn't a big deal. But the doctors I respect say they wouldn't even treat themselves this way. There's a reason we run clinical trials, and it's because most drugs, even those with "bio-plausibility," have none to marginal benefit and potential safety issues. Even an approved drug that on average reduces length of hospital stay by 15% can make a big difference at the population level but if it has adverse events for 0.1% that may be a risk not worth taking for the president. The approved drugs he's taking are not indicated for his reported condition. And there certainly are no trials evaluating safety or efficacy of this crazy cocktail he's taking. Can you imagine the conspiracy theories that would come out of this if the president got sick or worse, not due to the virus per se but due to this evidence free vip medicine?
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Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson is COVID-19 positive.
https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/1312379055698837504?s=19
He'll have more time to write his fiction novel about Ukraine
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18 University of Notre Dame faculty members attended the White House COVID-19 superspreader event.
(Insert your own off campus party comments here)
https://twitter.com/TollyTaylor/status/1312242347216982017?s=19
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That Kellyanne lied is pretty much assumed. It is just about all she does. She invented the term “alternative facts.”
The real issue is that she is so immoral, she had no problem knowingly exposing others to a deadly disease.
Similarly ...
Her boss has done a lot of terrible things these last 4 years, but an argument can be made that this was the very worst:
He knowingly exposed friends and supporters of his to a deadly virus just to extract money from them.
Think about how bad that is. What kind of human being would do such a thing?
It was an indefensible, evil, possibly criminal act.
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If anything they should be more careful with the president, I think this strategy is insane. This strikes me (admittedly without direct evidence) as a powerful guy leaning on his doctors to throw everything at it to try to recover quickly to prove how strong he is and that the virus isn't a big deal. But the doctors I respect say they wouldn't even treat themselves this way. There's a reason we run clinical trials, and it's because most drugs, even those with "bio-plausibility," have none to marginal benefit and potential safety issues. Even an approved drug that on average reduces length of hospital stay by 15% can make a big difference at the population level but if it has adverse events for 0.1% that may be a risk not worth taking for the president. The approved drugs he's taking are not indicated for his reported condition. And there certainly are no trials evaluating safety or efficacy of this crazy cocktail he's taking. Can you imagine the conspiracy theories that would come out of this if the president got sick or worse, not due to the virus per se but due to this evidence free vip medicine?
I find it highly unlikely the doctors at Walter Reed are giving POTUS a potentially dangerous treatment regimen against their will.
I mean, you say "Can you imagine the conspiracy theories" in a post in which you're proffer a conspiracy theory.
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I find it highly unlikely the doctors at Walter Reed are giving POTUS a potentially dangerous treatment regimen against their will.
I mean, you say "Can you imagine the conspiracy theories" in a post in which you're proffer a conspiracy theory.
Doctors said he weighed 239 lbs and was in the best shape of any president too.
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18 University of Notre Dame faculty members attended the White House COVID-19 superspreader event.
(Insert your own off campus party comments here)
https://twitter.com/TollyTaylor/status/1312242347216982017?s=19
Notre Dame sucks.
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Doctors said he weighed 239 lbs and was in the best shape of any president too.
Totally the same thing!
But hey, believe what you want. A bunch of the nation's top doctors are violating their Hippocratic Oath and endangering their patient's life for partisan reasons. Makes perfect sense.
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Notre Dame sucks.
Thankfully something we can all agree on.
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Totally the same thing!
But hey, believe what you want. A bunch of the nation's top doctors are violating their Hippocratic Oath and endangering their patient's life for partisan reasons. Makes perfect sense.
Agree that it's far-fetched. I have represented docs for years, and have consistently advised that they are under no obligation to provide every treatment a patient demands, and have strongly advised against treatments the doc thinks are ill-advised.
The only caveat here is if the docs at Walter Reed are also members of the military. On the one hand, they have their professional obligations (and liability concerns) as physicians; but on the other they might have an obligation to comply with orders from a senior officer in the chain of command. And the Commander in Chief is as senior as they get. [Insert bone spur joke here.] I honestly don't know how this works in military facilities if a senior military official 'orders' ill-advised care, but I can see it as a possible dilemma. Could they be forced to choose between a possible malpractice lawsuit or a court martial? Again - I honestly don't know.
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Shockin' dat nun of y'all r ant sayin' dat Trump, Melania, and Hope contracted da chit via a 3 way, hey?
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Shockin' dat nun of y'all r ant sayin' dat Trump, Melania, and Hope contracted da chit via a 3 way, hey?
Not really. In fact, I would’ve been more surprised if anyone other than you or keefer said that.
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The president that is "For America" intentionally showed up late to the presidential debate so he wouldn't be tested for a virus that is killing hundreds of thousands of people in America, then mocked his opponent for wearing a mask to help stop the spread of this virus during the debate, and now is hospitalized because of this virus and people all over the White House and his campaign are getting the virus. For America, baby.
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The president that is "For America" intentionally showed up late to the presidential debate so he wouldn't be tested for a virus that is killing hundreds of thousands of people in America, then mocked his opponent for wearing a mask to help stop the spread of this virus during the debate, and now is hospitalized because of this virus and people all over the White House and his campaign are getting the virus. For America, baby.
Don't forget he went to a fundraiser knowing he was positive and receiving treatment
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Agree that it's far-fetched. I have represented docs for years, and have consistently advised that they are under no obligation to provide every treatment a patient demands, and have strongly advised against treatments the doc thinks are ill-advised.
The only caveat here is if the docs at Walter Reed are also members of the military. On the one hand, they have their professional obligations (and liability concerns) as physicians; but on the other they might have an obligation to comply with orders from a senior officer in the chain of command. And the Commander in Chief is as senior as they get. [Insert bone spur joke here.] I honestly don't know how this works in military facilities if a senior military official 'orders' ill-advised care, but I can see it as a possible dilemma. Could they be forced to choose between a possible malpractice lawsuit or a court martial? Again - I honestly don't know.
They also have a duty not to obey an unlawful order. Whether providing dangerous medical care qualifies as a lawful order, I don't know, but it's not as simple as "do what the president says."
Regardless, unless you think the doctors are all lying, it seems as if Trump's condition is improving and he's not currently in peril.
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Shockin' dat nun of y'all r ant sayin' dat Trump, Melania, and Hope contracted da chit via a 3 way, hey?
Really this isn’t the place to post about your fantasies.
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Don't forget he went to a fundraiser knowing he was positive and receiving treatment
Seems he might have been positive at the debate and told no one? Crazy
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Also from the doctors' news conference this morning, Trump's positive test appears to have occurred sometime Wednesday, which means he spent 24+ hours campaigning, meeting with supporters and staffers, etc., all while infected.
And now Chris Christie has it.
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Also from the doctors' news conference this morning, Trump's positive test appears to have occurred sometime Wednesday, which means he spent 24+ hours campaigning, meeting with supporters and staffers, etc., all while infected.
And now Chris Christie has it.
Trump's willingness to expose so many people -- most of whom are his own supporters and even friends -- to a deadly virus should tell anybody all they need to know about him.
As for Christie, this from the NYT:
Chris Christie, the former governor of New Jersey who for several days this week helped the president prepare for the debate, said he has tested positive for the coronavirus.
Mr. Christie said Saturday that he would be receiving medical attention the same day.
“I just received word that I am positive for COVID-19,” Mr. Christie said on Twitter. “I want to thank all of my friends and colleagues who have reached out to ask how I was feeling in the last day or two.”
Mr. Christie was one of several advisers who huddled with President Trump and others for debate preparation from Sunday to Tuesday. Mr. Christie also attended a White House event on Sept. 26 for Judge Amy Coney Barrett in the Rose Garden.
The debate preparation team included Hope Hicks, one of Mr. Trump’s his closest advisers, Stephen Miller, the president’s speechwriter and top domestic policy adviser, and Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer and the former mayor of New York.
None of them wore masks, Mr. Christie said.
Mr. Christie’s statement came one day after Senator Thom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina and Senator Mike Lee, Republican of Utah, announced that they had tested positive. Both attended the event for Judge Barrett. A video posted on Twitter shows Mr. Lee hugging people at the event.
I'd say it was a shocking level of denying science and ignoring the administration's own guidelines ... but really, there's nothing shocking about it.
As I believe tower said, maybe the good that will come out of all of this is that the president of the United States will finally act like a leader, and that his loyal followers will finally stop putting themselves and others at jeopardy because of, you know, "freedom."
I have my doubts, but here's hoping.
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Seems he might have been positive at the debate and told no one? Crazy
I'm beginning to think this is certainly true. Whether they technically knew it, or simply were pretty sure and intentionally didn't test him is an open question.
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Trump's willingness to expose so many people -- most of whom are his own supporters and even friends -- to a deadly virus should tell anybody all they need to know about him.
As for Christie, this from the NYT:
Chris Christie, the former governor of New Jersey who for several days this week helped the president prepare for the debate, said he has tested positive for the coronavirus.
Mr. Christie said Saturday that he would be receiving medical attention the same day.
“I just received word that I am positive for COVID-19,” Mr. Christie said on Twitter. “I want to thank all of my friends and colleagues who have reached out to ask how I was feeling in the last day or two.”
Mr. Christie was one of several advisers who huddled with President Trump and others for debate preparation from Sunday to Tuesday. Mr. Christie also attended a White House event on Sept. 26 for Judge Amy Coney Barrett in the Rose Garden.
The debate preparation team included Hope Hicks, one of Mr. Trump’s his closest advisers, Stephen Miller, the president’s speechwriter and top domestic policy adviser, and Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer and the former mayor of New York.
None of them wore masks, Mr. Christie said.
Mr. Christie’s statement came one day after Senator Thom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina and Senator Mike Lee, Republican of Utah, announced that they had tested positive. Both attended the event for Judge Barrett. A video posted on Twitter shows Mr. Lee hugging people at the event.
I'd say it was a shocking level of denying science and ignoring the administration's own guidelines ... but really, there's nothing shocking about it.
As I believe tower said, maybe the good that will come out of all of this is that the president of the United States will finally act like a leader, and that his loyal followers will finally stop putting themselves and others at jeopardy because of, you know, "freedom."
I have my doubts, but here's hoping.
Has there been any report about Stephen Miller and Giuliani's test results?
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Ron Johnson attended a dinner last night after testing positive. Incredible.
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The president that is "For America" intentionally showed up late to the presidential debate so he wouldn't be tested for a virus that is killing hundreds of thousands of people in America, then mocked his opponent for wearing a mask to help stop the spread of this virus during the debate, and now is hospitalized because of this virus and people all over the White House and his campaign are getting the virus. For America, baby.
Bruh, he better hope no one does as a direct result of this.
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Ron Johnson attended a dinner last night after testing positive. Incredible.
I believe he said he learned of the result afterward. But upon Lee testing positive, he should have done normal, responsible person stuff and not attended at all.
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Has there been any report about Stephen Miller and Giuliani's test results?
This virus doesn't jump species so I think they're probably safe.
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Based on the answers of the doctor, it sounds like Trump was on oxygen one day.
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I believe he said he learned of the result afterward. But upon Lee testing positive, he should have done normal, responsible person stuff and not attended at all.
Every policy on the planet says if you were knowingly exposed, you quarantine for 14 days.
If you are awaiting a pending result, you should be in quarantine.
The actions of these people is grossly negligent.
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As I believe tower said, maybe the good that will come out of all of this is that the president of the United States will finally act like a leader, and that his loyal followers will finally stop putting themselves and others at jeopardy because of, you know, "freedom."
I'll take the other side of that bet at whatever odds you want to give me.
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I'm beginning to think this is certainly true. Whether they technically knew it, or simply were pretty sure and intentionally didn't test him is an open question.
Do you think it's coincidence that Trump showed up so late to the debate so as to not have time to be covid tested?
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This virus doesn't jump species so I think they're probably safe.
Hah nice
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Do you think it's coincidence that Trump showed up so late to the debate so as to not have time to be covid tested?
I don't think it was a coincidence. All the information on positive tests coming out seems to indicate that Trump was likely the epicenter of the spread.
Secondary question. Apparently Trump has pretty severe symptoms, if he recovers quickly due to getting both Regeneron and Remdesivir, could that blowback on him a bit with over 200,000 dead, many of whom were sent home from ERs far sicker than him and told to take Tylenol.
I understand he is the president and should get the highest level of care possible, but it also, in general, shows inequities in the health care system.
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He's back to tweeting. So I guess that's good news (health wise).
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He's back to tweeting. So I guess that's good news (health wise).
A few people have access to his account, and post for him regularly.
After Meadows goes off the record (but spotted and overhead from reporters who he wasn’t talking too) and says things are much worse than they actually are, and all of sudden he starts tweeting again?
🤔
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Herman Cain was Tweeting from the grave.
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They also have a duty not to obey an unlawful order. Whether providing dangerous medical care qualifies as a lawful order, I don't know, but it's not as simple as "do what the president says."
Regardless, unless you think the doctors are all lying, it seems as if Trump's condition is improving and he's not currently in peril.
Perhaps at the moment, but they also reminded everyone that days 7-10 are critical. Once you've been on oxygen, then off again, the chances of a relapse after several days are significant.
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A few people have access to his account, and post for him regularly.
After Meadows goes off the record (but spotted and overhead from reporters who he wasn’t talking too) and says things are much worse than they actually are, and all of sudden he starts tweeting again?
🤔
I was at a conference where a person was showing how much data they could extract from publicly available sources using machine learning algorithms.
They analyzed all of Trump's tweets as a fun demonstration. They then showed that based on linguistic traits, spelling errors, and times of day, that they could identify 3 distinct individuals tweeting from his account.
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This virus doesn't jump species so I think they're probably safe.
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1312100547890044928?s=20
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Trump donors paid up to $250,000 to attend a buffet lunch. Later the same day Trump revealed he had the virus.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/day-trump-bedminster-fundraiser-guests-flabbergasted-learn-stricken/story?id=73394174&id=73394174&__twitter_impression=true
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Herman Cain was Tweeting from the grave.
Ask and you shall receive:
https://twitter.com/THEHermanCain/status/1312444689279184898?s=19
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Shockin' dat nun of y'all r ant sayin' dat Trump, Melania, and Hope contracted da chit via a 3 way, hey?
With Falwell watching?
Seriously, who in their right mind would think of that? Unless you change slightly the definition of 'right mind'.
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Trump donors paid up to $250,000 to attend a buffet lunch. Later the same day Trump revealed he had the virus.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/day-trump-bedminster-fundraiser-guests-flabbergasted-learn-stricken/story?id=73394174&id=73394174&__twitter_impression=true
This has been discussed already.
The real issue is that he already knew he had it when he chose to go to the fundraiser and collect his campaign coin from the big-wigs in attendance. He didn't wear a mask. He didn't tell anybody there he had it. Hardly any others wore masks.
Criminal negligence.
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Christie to the 🏥
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Trump’s Covid Treatments Suggest a Serious Condition
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/03/health/Covid-trump-treatments.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article
Update of earlier NYT article, with comments from several outside docs on how they interpret the messages from POTUS' treating physicians. The consensus seems to be that he may be more ill than they are letting on (both because of the need for oxygen and the 'multi-therapy' approach), and there is division on whether combining all these therapies is a good idea. FWIW.
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He just tweeted a video of himself from WRMC. He looks pretty good. Suit coat, open collar. I wouldn’t know he was sick.
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Yes, totally normal, and this seems 100% accurate.
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Yes, totally normal, and this seems 100% accurate.
Lol I thought the same thing. Locked up in my bedroom or locked up in a hospital room. Tough choice.
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He just tweeted a video of himself from WRMC. He looks pretty good. Suit coat, open collar. I wouldn’t know he was sick.
That was the fake Trump Soros hired as part of the deep state coup to install Sharia Law
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Only the best people...
@jaketapper: The president is in the hospital with COVID-19 and the White House is putting out zero guests for the Sunday shows to explain what’s going on while also forcing administration health experts to cancel pre-planned interviews.
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Very early on in this I indicated that the most likely therapeutic to deliver a major boost to fighting this disease were the monoclonal antibody cocktails. I indicated they could be scaled up fast if needed.
Trump was given one of those drugs and seems to being doing well. Problem is, it won't be available to the rest of us anytime soon.
This was a major strategical error. As part of operation "warp speed" the government should have invested in the production of these antibody cocktails months ago, and did parallel phase 1/2 trials like they did for the vaccines. Had they done so, we could have millions of doses or Regeneron and similar medicines available right now, or very shortly.
This wasn't done.
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Lol I thought the same thing. Locked up in my bedroom or locked up in a hotel room. Tough choice.
Was that his hospital justification or him saying why he kept going to events? I took it as the latter.
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Very early on in this I indicated that the most likely therapeutic to deliver a major boost to fighting this disease were the monoclonal antibody cocktails. I indicated they could be scaled up fast if needed.
Trump was given one of those drugs and seems to being doing well. Problem is, it won't be available to the rest of us anytime soon.
This was a major strategical error. As part of operation "warp speed" the government should have invested in the production of these antibody cocktails months ago, and did parallel phase 1/2 trials like they did for the vaccines. Had they done so, we could have millions of doses or Regeneron and similar medicines available right now, or very shortly.
This wasn't done.
While we can’t make up for lost time, maybe this whole situation will accelerate govt investment in this area...
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He just tweeted a video of himself from WRMC. He looks pretty good. Suit coat, open collar. I wouldn’t know he was sick.
https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1312534750725201920?s=21
Trump coughed here after the word “therapeutics” and it was edited out using the morph cut feature in @AdobePremiereCC
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https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1312534750725201920?s=21
Trump coughed here after the word “therapeutics” and it was edited out using the morph cut feature in @AdobePremiereCC
I was wondering what that was.
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Trump faked a photo of him “working” from the hospital. https://mobile.twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1312589379945275393
It’s also become clear that the Rose Garden ceremony Trump hosted without social distancing and masks was a superspreader event.
Now that’s just great leadership in a crisis.
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Sounds like he is doing well. Still not completely out of the woods but it’s looking good.
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We need to check the use of "super spreader."
How about .. under 5 = minor spreader
10-20 - regular spreader
21-30 - super spreader
31+ hyper spreader. nucear? godzilla?
Let's get on this.
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What’s 5-10?
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Sounds like he is doing well. Still not completely out of the woods but it’s looking good.
Not that this doctor has ever given out less than accurate info, but medical folks are pointing out some discrepancies in his treatment.
So dexamethasone was found to be beneficial ONLY in patients on a ventilator OR on oxygen. NOT on patients who don't need oxygen. There was even the possibility of harm in that patient population.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Craig_A_Spencer/status/1312783564111568896
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Sounds like he is doing well. Still not completely out of the woods but it’s looking good.
Typically most patients do not develop severe enough disease to warrant hospitalization until day 5-8 of the illness. We are only at day 4, that we know of, so although he is doing well caution should be observed.
Severe illness that warrants ICU care can take up to 2-weeks to occur. The question going forward is to how his body will respond as the disease progresses.
So far so good, likely due to the best care in the world.
edit: A turn for the worse here would be an incredibly bad sign. At this point they've exhausted all treatment options. So if things get worse, they don't have any more weapons to deploy.
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The doctor said expected findings.
From a radiologist friend:
As a radiologist who was been diagnosing and monitoring Covid-19 patients since March ...
The "expected findings" in Covid-19 are multi-focal ground glass opacicities (GGOs). To simplify - He has Covid-19 viral pneumonia. That's why they put him on the steroids too.
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Sounds like he is doing well. Still not completely out of the woods but it’s looking good.
That seems to contradict what his docs are saying.
Trump’s oxygen levels dropped and he was given dexamethasone, potentially signaling a ‘severe’ case of Covid-19
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/04/world/trump-covid-live-updates?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#trumps-oxygen-levels-dropped-and-he-was-given-dexamethasone-potentially-signaling-a-severe-case-of-covid-19
Once you have had O2 sats that low at any point, there is a very real risk for a relapse 7-10 days out.
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That seems to contradict what his docs are saying.
Trump’s oxygen levels dropped and he was given dexamethasone, potentially signaling a ‘severe’ case of Covid-19
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/04/world/trump-covid-live-updates?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#trumps-oxygen-levels-dropped-and-he-was-given-dexamethasone-potentially-signaling-a-severe-case-of-covid-19
Once you have had O2 sats that low at any point, there is a very real risk for a relapse 7-10 days out.
So why was the update from his doctor today he may be discharged from WR as soon as tomorrow?
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So why was the update from the White House doctor today he may be discharged from WR as soon as tomorrow?
Yes, why is the important question a WH doctor (not a Walter Reed physician), may say these things.
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So why was the update from his doctor today he may be discharged from WR as soon as tomorrow?
The same reason they announced he would go to the hospital after the markets closed on Friday. They're doing whatever they can to keep uncertainty / panic down. And I think most admins would do the same.
The proof is in the pudding. If Trump is home by Monday / Tuesday, he probably has a good chance of resuming a normal workload. If he's still there Tuesday night, that's a big tell.
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Even if you have the view that the administration is giving us good information, I find it hard to pick out Which of it to believe. Meadows, the team of white coats that got the start point ‘wrong’, the guy says he wanted to reflect the positive message of the White House?
I’m still following the doctor community outside the White House and assume we will know what happens after the fact from journalists. In seven months it hasn’t been a bad strategy.
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Sounds like he is doing well. Still not completely out of the woods but it’s looking good.
This sums it all up perfectly where things stand today. The rest of the conjecture is as always the left trying and hoping to find scandal and make political points.
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So why was the update from his doctor today he may be discharged from WR as soon as tomorrow?
First, the doc said he "may" be discharged tomorrow. Nothing definitive.
Second, even if he is discharged, he will go to a place that has a nicely equipped hospital unit and a team of docs watching him 24/7.
Third, many patients have been discharged, only to return in far worse condition. One common denominator in many of those cases was low enough O2 saturation levels to require oxygen.
When you put all the facts together, there is plenty of reason for concern. Anyhow, I'm just giving my read. Choose to pay attention to - or ignore - the facts as you like.
Either way, I hope he recovers. No American is well-served by having the President hospitalized.
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This sums it all up perfectly where things stand today. The rest of the conjecture is as always the left trying and hoping to find scandal and make political points.
Oh don’t get me wrong. He knew the virus was deadly, encouraged people to act recklessly which resulted in thousands of deaths, and fell victim to his own recklessness.
It looks like he will survive. But he’s a reflection of his own failures.
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This sums it all up perfectly where things stand today. The rest of the conjecture is as always the left trying and hoping to find scandal and make political points.
😂
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Oh don’t get me wrong. He knew the virus was deadly, encouraged people to act recklessly which resulted in thousands of deaths, and fell victim to his own recklessness.
It looks like he will survive. But he’s a reflection of his own failures.
I don’t need your mini lecture. I know full well the comment I gave you credit for and agreed on was in no way a Trump endorsement of any type.
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I don’t need your mini lecture. I know full well the comment I gave you credit for and agreed on was in no way a Trump endorsement of any type.
Lol. It’s a message board.
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This sums it all up perfectly where things stand today. The rest of the conjecture is as always the left trying and hoping to find scandal and make political points.
Is this a mini lecture or a post?
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Kellyanne Conway's daughter now has it.
Wonder where she got it ...
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This sums it all up perfectly where things stand today. The rest of the conjecture is as always the left trying and hoping to find scandal and make political points.
The “scandal” here is the same as it always is. The WH lied. In 24 hours they went from no oxygen to receiving oxygen twice.
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First, the doc said he "may" be discharged tomorrow. Nothing definitive.
Second, even if he is discharged, he will go to a place that has a nicely equipped hospital unit and a team of docs watching him 24/7.
Third, many patients have been discharged, only to return in far worse condition. One common denominator in many of those cases was low enough O2 saturation levels to require oxygen.
When you put all the facts together, there is plenty of reason for concern. Anyhow, I'm just giving my read. Choose to pay attention to - or ignore - the facts as you like.
Either way, I hope he recovers. No American is well-served by having the President hospitalized.
Did I not already say he “may be discharged”?
I’ll choose to ignore what you say since I know the uber bias it’s coming from. But you teed it up so nicely to make a larger point that I added afterwards - everything having to do with a Republican is a political point waiting to be made. Even their own medical treatment. There has to be a there there.
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This sums it all up perfectly where things stand today. The rest of the conjecture is as always the left trying and hoping to find scandal and make political points.
Who knew the NSA adviser to the president was a lefty.
He may not be heading home anytime soon according to officials.
Found on Huffington.
President Trump feels “very well” but will likely remain hospitalized for “a period of time” following his coronavirus diagnosis, national security adviser Robert O’Brien said Sunday.
“I think he’s going to stay at [Water Reed National Military Medical Center] for at least another period of time,” O’Brien said during an appearance on CBS’s “Face The Nation.”
“Day 7 and 8 are the critical days,” he added, referring to the timeline of Trump’s infection. “I think the doctors want to make sure they’re there for the president.”
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Did I not already say he “may be discharged”?
I’ll choose to ignore what you say since I know the uber bias it’s coming from. But you teed it up so nicely to make a larger point that I added afterwards - everything having to do with a Republican is a political point waiting to be made. Even their own medical treatment. There has to be a there there.
I hope he recovers, but I have concerns. That isn't bias and my post said nothing about politics; it's simply my interpretation of everything we have been told. If you don't want to read my opinion, feel free to ignore.
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Not the Onion. But an early Christmas shopping opportunity!
https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/product-p/trump-defeats-covid.htm
President Donald J. Trump, 45th President
Defeats COVID Commemorative Coin!
First 1,000 Orders Receive a Complimentary Presidential Blue Mask with Coin!
Mask comes with a certification that it was never worn!
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Who knew the NSA adviser to the president was a lefty.
He may not be heading home anytime soon according to officials.
Found on Huffington.
President Trump feels “very well” but will likely remain hospitalized for “a period of time” following his coronavirus diagnosis, national security adviser Robert O’Brien said Sunday.
“I think he’s going to stay at [Water Reed National Military Medical Center] for at least another period of time,” O’Brien said during an appearance on CBS’s “Face The Nation.”
“Day 7 and 8 are the critical days,” he added, referring to the timeline of Trump’s infection. “I think the doctors want to make sure they’re there for the president.”
That’s some crazy lefty conspiracy shyte right there.
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Who would have thought the white house doctor would be less than forthcoming with the truth?
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Who would have thought the white house doctor would be less than forthcoming with the truth?
Well he did go to Notre Dame
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/525635174877630464?s=19
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There is an ironic old Trump tweet for every occasion.
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https://twitter.com/drphillipsmd/status/1312867868028141568?s=21
This really is indefensible.
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Damn that 'political theater.'
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Just the left with tin foil hats. Nothing to see here.
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https://twitter.com/drphillipsmd/status/1312867868028141568?s=21
This really is indefensible.
Everyday is a new low
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Just the left with tin foil hats. Nothing to see here.
The granddaddy of them all being Russia Collusion and Mueller’s investigation.
(And I know I’m responding to sarcasm.)
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https://twitter.com/drphillipsmd/status/1312867868028141568?s=21
This really is indefensible.
Not only doctors slamming him.
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1312882760466354177?s=20
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Further to my prior post, The Wall Street journal reporting tonight.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-didnt-disclose-first-positive-covid-19-test-while-awaiting-a-second-test-on-thursday-11601844813 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-didnt-disclose-first-positive-covid-19-test-while-awaiting-a-second-test-on-thursday-11601844813)
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https://twitter.com/drphillipsmd/status/1312867868028141568?s=21
This really is indefensible.
https://mobile.twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1312887624701554689
A more reasonable analysis from a former White House physician to the actual risk to those in the car. If you don’t feel like clicking, it was next to zero.
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If they were in a car with him because he needed to be transported somewhere, fine. But to be in a car with him for an unnecessary PR stunt shows he has no regard for their safety in the least.
How could the medical people allow this?
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If they were in a car with him because he needed to be transported somewhere, fine. But to be in a car with him for an unnecessary PR stunt shows he has no regard for their safety in the least.
How could the medical people allow this?
Because his medical people know with properly fitted n95 like they appeared to be wearing they were at no risk.
But you know that as well, just don’t care.
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Because his medical people know with properly fitted n95 like they appeared to be wearing they were at no risk.
But you know that as well, just don’t care.
It’s an indefensible publicity stunt that was unnecessary.
But you know that as well, just don’t care
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It’s an indefensible publicity stunt that was unnecessary.
But you know that as well, just don’t care
If he wanted to do it and his medical team signed off on it why do you care so much?
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It’s an indefensible publicity stunt that was unnecessary.
But you know that as well, just don’t care
How incredibly sick does a man need to be to do this? Secret Service agents are willing to put their lives on the line. The president is willing to put their lives on the line just to boost his ego.
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If he wanted to do it and his medical team signed off on it why do you care so much?
Because he’s the freaking President of the United States of America and leaders lead, not drive around to get applause from people or as he called them “fans”.
He’s a disgrace to the office and an embarrassment to this country
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Because he’s the freaking President of the United States of America and leaders lead, not drive around to get applause from people or as he called them “fans”.
He’s a disgrace to the office and an embarrassment to this country
That’s fine to be annoyed by it I agree it was a silly political photo op but don’t hide behind the “lives and safety” of those in the car crap (not saying you were)
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https://mobile.twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1312887624701554689
A more reasonable analysis from a former White House physician to the actual risk to those in the car. If you don’t feel like clicking, it was next to zero.
Not exactly sure why a doctor who served in the White House 15 years ago should be seen as an expert here.
But the whole point is that these agents now have to quarantine because they have been a close contact to a positive case. For an absolutely unnecessary appearance.
And apparently you don’t care.
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If he wanted to do it and his medical team signed off on it why do you care so much?
Why do you care so little about fellow humans if they aren’t named Donald F. Trump?
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Did I not already say he “may be discharged”?
I’ll choose to ignore what you say since I know the uber bias it’s coming from. But you teed it up so nicely to make a larger point that I added afterwards - everything having to do with a Republican is a political point waiting to be made. Even their own medical treatment. There has to be a there there.
Perhaps, and hear me out here, it's way past time to examine your own bias.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1312903449999216641
Can we move onto whatever the next made up pearl clutching event will be.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1312903449999216641
Can we move onto whatever the next made up pearl clutching event will be.
Well, the White House press office does have an impeccable reputation for honesty, so we should definitely take their word for it.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1312903449999216641
Can we move onto whatever the next made up pearl clutching event will be.
Who twitted that? Truth-Teller Kellyanne, or Honest Abe Kayleigh?
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The attending physician at Walter Reed is pissed. Obviously a deep state, tinfoil hat wearing lefty.
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https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1313138387994509313?s=19
Kayleigh McEnany COVID-19 positive.
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https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1313138387994509313?s=19
Kayleigh McEnany COVID-19 positive.
Hahahahahahahaha... I mean thoughts and prayers.
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I mean, I guess one can appreciate the chutzpah ...
Tim Hogan @timjhogan
The Trump campaign is now attacking Biden for...not contracting coronavirus.
“He has experience — now — fighting the coronavirus as an individual. Those firsthand experiences, Joe Biden, he doesn’t have those."
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I mean, I guess one can appreciate the chutzpah ...
Tim Hogan @timjhogan
The Trump campaign is now attacking Biden for...not contracting coronavirus.
“He has experience — now — fighting the coronavirus as an individual. Those firsthand experiences, Joe Biden, he doesn’t have those."
If only Sleepy Joe had gotten Covid in March, maybe he could have save 200,000 plus Americans. Sad!
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Essential worker. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Now who is gonna tell us the hard truths? “We will not see diseases like the coronavirus come here..and isn't it refreshing when contrasting it with the awful presidency of President Obama."
After knowingly mingling with covid positive people, she mingled with reporters yesterday - maskless. She is a danger to society.
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To borrow from our president... I like candidates who didn't get COVID.
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To borrow from our president... I like candidates who didn't get COVID.
I'm going to withhold commentary until we know with certainty that this idiot didn't get Biden infected.
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Fair.
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https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1313138387994509313?s=19
Kayleigh McEnany COVID-19 positive.
The inability to take this seriously even now is a real issue. I hope Pence is staying away and also Pelosi should stop all in person interactions with the admin until its known how far this has spread.
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Pence and Mother tested negative today.
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I'm going to withhold commentary until we know with certainty that this idiot didn't get Biden infected.
FWIW, I read Biden tested negative again yesterday.
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https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1313138387994509313?s=19
Kayleigh McEnany COVID-19 positive.
And now two of her staffers are as well.
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FWIW, I read Biden tested negative again yesterday.
Negative tests just mean you dont have enough virus 'right now'. You can be infected and it can be incubating. I am sure Kayleigh likely tested negative yesterday too.
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Essential worker. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Now who is gonna tell us the hard truths? “We will not see diseases like the coronavirus come here..and isn't it refreshing when contrasting it with the awful presidency of President Obama."
After knowingly mingling with covid positive people, she mingled with reporters yesterday - maskless. She is a danger to society.
Laughingly, Trump tried to bring up Obama's response to H1N1 up during the debate.
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Trump is now uniquely qualified to tackle this PLAGUE now that he has infiltrated it from inside and can attack the COVID hive mind. This would be a bitchin' Doctor Who episode.
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Anthony Fauci, your 2020 Federal Employee of the Year.
https://twitter.com/IRPatNIH/status/1311697857536237568?s=19
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Anthony Fauci, your 2020 Federal Employee of the Year.
https://twitter.com/IRPatNIH/status/1311697857536237568?s=19
aka "Deep State Award"
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I mean, I guess one can appreciate the chutzpah ...
Tim Hogan @timjhogan
The Trump campaign is now attacking Biden for...not contracting coronavirus.
“He has experience — now — fighting the coronavirus as an individual. Those firsthand experiences, Joe Biden, he doesn’t have those."
Maybe he should have gotten the whole experience that the rest of America got then.
1) After being exposed, placed in mandatory quarantine. He'd be tested, but only once symptoms start. Then, he'd have to wait 7-10 days to get the result.
2) No world class medical care in your own residence. Instead, you are left to your own, if you have symptoms take Tylenol. Based on his symptoms so far, any attempts to go to the ER would result in them sending you home to take Tylenol.
3) No access to Regeneron, or at this juncture, access to Remdesivir.
Any claims to being better prepared to handle this because he had it, is like me claiming I know what it is to be so poor I never get to eat, because I once forgot lunch money and had to borrow it from a friend.
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
His tweets as always resurface, I hope to God this doesn't come back to bite him. Is Chris Christie not still hospitalized? He's telling people contracting COVID-19 made him feel 20 years younger. It's unbelievably reckless.
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
I hope he recovers, but seriously? Over 210,000 Americans dead, and he is still trying to downplay it. It's all about the votes....
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His tweets as always resurface, I hope to God this doesn't come back to bite him. Is Chris Christie not still hospitalized? He's telling people contracting COVID-19 made him feel 20 years younger. It's unbelievably reckless.
I’d say unbelievable but it isn’t. His actions today will make this thing more political than it already is. This is a very serious moment for our nation and he just threw dynamite on a fire
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
I want to hear the defense of him now.
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"Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!" - Herman Cain
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Idiot is being unfair to idiots. Not sure what term defines this clown.
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
Once again, this narcissist's irresponsible message is almost the exact opposite of what he should have stated.
No, we shouldn't be "afraid" of COVID-19, as in shaking-in-our-boots, hiding-in-our-bunkers afraid. But we should have a healthy respect for how insidious the virus can be, even to perfectly healthy humans.
We also should respect that even if we survive -- as the vast majority of COVID-19 patients do -- there is a decent chance that we could be haunted for years by serious medical conditions stemming from COVID-19. The obese, high-cholesterol, 74-year-old Trump has no idea yet if he will be one so haunted.
And, obviously, we should respect the fact that just about nobody else in America has access to the kind of care that Trump had these last few days. The "really great drugs" he referenced -- not available to most of us.
And, of course, if he wins his fight to take Obamacare away from tens of millions of Americans -- something he is cruelly trying to do in the middle of a deadly global pandemic -- few will even have access to basic care, let alone all the treatments he had pumped into him.
He has learned nothing except how to politicize the coronavirus even more and how to use it to divide Americans even more than he already has.
"They are dying. That's true. It is what it is."
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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/05/world/covid-trump?name=styln-trump-coronavirus
Dr. Gounder also noted that dexamethasone can cause a sense of euphoria. Mr. Trump said in his tweet that he feels better than he has in 20 years.
“A lot of people will just feel really great. If you had any aches and pains, they will disappear. If you had a fever, that will disappear,” she said. “People can become somewhat manic, grandiose.”
Great...
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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/05/world/covid-trump?name=styln-trump-coronavirus
Great...
Dexamethasone has many troubling side effects. Per the Mayo Clinic website:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/dexamethasone-oral-route/side-effects/drg-20075207
Notably, the “more common“ side effects include the following:
aggression
agitation
anxiety
blurred vision
decrease in the amount of urine
dizziness
fast, slow, pounding, or irregular heartbeat or pulse
headache
irritability
mental depression
mood changes
nervousness
noisy, rattling breathing
numbness or tingling in the arms or legs
pounding in the ears
swelling of the fingers, hands, feet, or lower legs
trouble thinking, speaking, or walking
troubled breathing at rest
weight gain
So yeah; just send him out to run the country.
I am thrilled he is doing better, and hope he makes a full recovery. But he has no business running a country right now with the medications he has taken. If you or I had received all those meds, we would be sent home, told to rest, and advised not to make any important decisions for a while.
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Once again, this narcissist's irresponsible message is almost the exact opposite of what he should have stated.
No, we shouldn't be "afraid" of COVID-19, as in shaking-in-our-boots, hiding-in-our-bunkers afraid. But we should have a healthy respect for how insidious the virus can be, even to perfectly healthy humans.
We also should respect that even if we survive -- as the vast majority of COVID-19 patients do -- there is a decent chance that we could be haunted for years by serious medical conditions stemming from COVID-19. The obese, high-cholesterol, 74-year-old Trump has no idea yet if he will be one so haunted.
And, obviously, we should respect the fact that just about nobody else in America has access to the kind of care that Trump had these last few days. The "really great drugs" he referenced -- not available to most of us.
And, of course, if he wins his fight to take Obamacare away from tens of millions of Americans -- something he is cruelly trying to do in the middle of a deadly global pandemic -- few will even have access to basic care, let alone all the treatments he had pumped into him.
He has learned nothing except how to politicize the coronavirus even more and how to use it to divide Americans even more than he already has.
"They are dying. That's true. It is what it is."
See today's Lincoln Project video.
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https://twitter.com/TimOBrien/status/1313192280971452418?s=20 (https://twitter.com/TimOBrien/status/1313192280971452418?s=20)
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Just watched it.
The DNC needs to just give the Lincoln Project any funds they raise. They are much better at messaging than anything the Dems come up with.
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See today's Lincoln Project video.
You talking about Our Fight, featuring the slogan he gave to the Proud Boys?
If not, please provide link for what you are talking about.
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The attending physician at Walter Reed is pissed. Obviously a deep state, tinfoil hat wearing lefty.
Might want to double check that there Tower.
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I understand we're talking about the president and covid-19 here, but please try to limit the propaganda.
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I understand we're talking about the president and covid-19 here, but please try to limit the propaganda.
Can this even be called Scoop if we limit the propaganda?
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Might want to double check that there Tower.
Whatev's
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/05/trump-doctors-slam-short-drive-outside-walter-reed-hospital.html
https://www.axios.com/walter-reed-attending-physician-trump-drive-by-1a916b7a-e71b-4ed4-a22d-933103e3fe1c.html
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/10/05/walter-reed-attending-physician-calls-president-trump-coronavirus-drive-by-political-theater-and-insanity/
https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/trump-s-irresponsible-drive-by-is-astounding-walter-reed-physician-120100500123_1.html
https://in.news.yahoo.com/trumps-irresponsible-drive-astounding-walter-020431341.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519562-walter-reed-attending-physician-swipes-at-trump-for-motorcade-visit
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-secret-service-lives-drive-stunt-1536307
Yup. Barely reported anywhere.
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Whatev's
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/05/trump-doctors-slam-short-drive-outside-walter-reed-hospital.html
https://www.axios.com/walter-reed-attending-physician-trump-drive-by-1a916b7a-e71b-4ed4-a22d-933103e3fe1c.html
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/10/05/walter-reed-attending-physician-calls-president-trump-coronavirus-drive-by-political-theater-and-insanity/
https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/trump-s-irresponsible-drive-by-is-astounding-walter-reed-physician-120100500123_1.html
https://in.news.yahoo.com/trumps-irresponsible-drive-astounding-walter-020431341.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519562-walter-reed-attending-physician-swipes-at-trump-for-motorcade-visit
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-secret-service-lives-drive-stunt-1536307
Yup. Barely reported anywhere.
Unfortunately that’s the story of these last 4 years and twitter in general....say something crazy with an incorrect/fake bio or with anonymous sourcing, get hundreds of thousands of retweets, online publications right stories without fact checking anything....48 hrs later it turns out to be all or largely false but damage has been done and no one cares or pays attention to the correction.
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Unfortunately that’s the story of these last 4 years and twitter in general....say something crazy with an incorrect/fake bio or with anonymous sourcing, get hundreds of thousands of retweets, online publications right stories without fact checking anything....48 hrs later it turns out to be all or largely false but damage has been done and no one cares or pays attention to the correction.
Dr. James P. Phillips hardly sounds like "anonymous sourcing." And he went beyond the tweet - he did a live interview this morning on Good Morning America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8msG8FvdJXQ
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Unfortunately that’s the story of these last 4 years and twitter in general....say something crazy with an incorrect/fake bio or with anonymous sourcing, get hundreds of thousands of retweets, online publications right stories without fact checking anything....48 hrs later it turns out to be all or largely false but damage has been done and no one cares or pays attention to the correction.
Seems pretty clear here.
https://twitter.com/DrPhillipsMD/status/1312867868028141568?s=19
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519610-walter-reed-physician-trump-sent-wrong-message-that-its-ok-to-go-out?amp&__twitter_impression=true
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Unfortunately that’s the story of these last 4 years and twitter in general....say something crazy with an incorrect/fake bio or with anonymous sourcing, get hundreds of thousands of retweets, online publications right stories without fact checking anything....48 hrs later it turns out to be all or largely false but damage has been done and no one cares or pays attention to the correction.
What?
So Tower posts a TRUE comment. You feel the need to attack Tower. He provides evidence for his TRUE comment.
And you come back with...drivel about...?
Tower was correct.
Why are you being so obtuse?
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I'm going to withhold commentary until we know with certainty that this idiot didn't get Biden infected.
Nah, if Sleepy Joe had da chit, he'd be dead, aina?
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Donald the Orange returns as Donald the White.
H/t The Bee.
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Unfortunately that’s the story of these last 4 years and twitter in general....say something crazy with an incorrect/fake bio or with anonymous sourcing, get hundreds of thousands of retweets, online publications right stories without fact checking anything.
But enough about all the conspiracy theories, racist sh!t and lies that get re-twitted regularly by America's No. 1 twit.
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Nah, if Sleepy Joe had da chit, he'd be dead, aina?
Yeah, because only weak people die from COVID-19, just like only losers become POWs and only suckers serve our country.
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Yet again, I'm left wondering what Pace is even talking about.
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What?
So Tower posts a TRUE comment. You feel the need to attack Tower. He provides evidence for his TRUE comment.
And you come back with...drivel about...?
Tower was correct.
Why are you being so obtuse?
Small changes made to the guys twitter bio in the last 24 hours.
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Nah, if Sleepy Joe had da chit, he'd be dead, aina?
I prefer presidents who don’t get Covid
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But enough about all the conspiracy theories, racist sh!t and lies that get re-twitted regularly by America's No. 1 twit.
Agree 100%. Twitter is 99% garbage and POTUS can be most at fault sometimes. Can you also admit there is a ton of incorrect stuff spewed by the left as well?
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What?
So Tower posts a TRUE comment. You feel the need to attack Tower. He provides evidence for his TRUE comment.
And you come back with...drivel about...?
Tower was correct.
Why are you being so obtuse?
Tower said a physician from Walter Reed was critical of the decision. 24 hrs later turns out dude wasn’t a physician at Walter Reed.
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Tower said a physician from Walter Reed was critical of the decision. 24 hrs later turns out dude wasn’t a physician at Walter Reed.
https://health.usnews.com/doctors/james-phillips-1057537
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesphillipsmd
What you are doing is called gaslighting. Any attempt to distract, change the subject, go on the offensive about anything except the actual topic at hand. No dice.
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Tower said a physician from Walter Reed was critical of the decision. 24 hrs later turns out dude wasn’t a physician at Walter Reed.
Once again, you could not be more wrong if you were trying to. But, in the words of the Rock, way to know your role.
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Tower said a physician from Walter Reed was critical of the decision. 24 hrs later turns out dude wasn’t a physician at Walter Reed.
https://www.today.com/video/walter-reed-physician-trump-s-ride-outside-hospital-was-a-dangerous-move-93144645593
Dr. James Phillips, an attending physician at Walter Reed Medical Center who tweeted that President Trump’s ride outside the hospital on Sunday was “insanity,” tells TODAY that “this was a dangerous move… there is no medical benefit for this to have taken place.”
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-the-height-of-irresponsibility-doctors-react-to-trumps-motorcade-outside-walter-reed-to-wave-at-supporters-2020-10-05
‘Every single person in the vehicle during that completely unnecessary Presidential “drive-by” just now has to be quarantined for 14 days.’
— James Phillips, a doctor of emergency medicine at George Washington University and attending physician at Walter Reed
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If you had actually read the links tower posted, you would have seen the same thing.
It's obvious that you are here for only one purpose - to argue without any actual facts on your side.
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https://www.today.com/video/walter-reed-physician-trump-s-ride-outside-hospital-was-a-dangerous-move-93144645593
Dr. James Phillips, an attending physician at Walter Reed Medical Center who tweeted that President Trump’s ride outside the hospital on Sunday was “insanity,” tells TODAY that “this was a dangerous move… there is no medical benefit for this to have taken place.”
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-the-height-of-irresponsibility-doctors-react-to-trumps-motorcade-outside-walter-reed-to-wave-at-supporters-2020-10-05
‘Every single person in the vehicle during that completely unnecessary Presidential “drive-by” just now has to be quarantined for 14 days.’
— James Phillips, a doctor of emergency medicine at George Washington University and attending physician at Walter Reed
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If you had actually read the links tower posted, you would have seen the same thing.
It's obvious that you are here for only one purpose - to argue without any actual facts on your side.
I read a good chunk of them yesterday. And then noticed the change to his twitter profile that used to say attending physician at Walter Reed yesterday and then no longer says that today 🤷♂️
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrPhillipsMD
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I read a good chunk of them yesterday. And then noticed the change to his twitter profile that used to say attending physician at Walter Reed yesterday and then no longer says that today 🤷♂️
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrPhillipsMD
I’ll have no problem admitting if I was wrong but my point remains. Twitter is garbage
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That wasn't your point.
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Yet again, I'm left wondering what Pace is even talking about.
Disinformation troll is here to disinform and muddy the waters. End of story.
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Disinformation troll is here to disinform and muddy the waters. End of story.
Yup. I don’t understand why people interact with him. He is what he is - no matter what name he goes by.
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That wasn't your point.
One of my points ;)
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One of my points ;)
Only after all the other ones had been shot down. ;)
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I read a good chunk of them yesterday. And then noticed the change to his twitter profile that used to say attending physician at Walter Reed yesterday and then no longer says that today 🤷♂️
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrPhillipsMD
GET REKT
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I’ll have no problem admitting if I was wrong but my point remains. Twitter is garbage
You admit you were wrong about as well as some people condemn white supremacists.
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Only after all the other ones had been shot down. ;)
;)
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Agree 100%. Twitter is 99% garbage and POTUS can be most at fault sometimes. Can you also admit there is a ton of incorrect stuff spewed by the left as well?
False equivalence, obviously, since only one uses the medium the way he does and the frequency he does.
But sure, lots of people say stoopid stuff on social media.
Just not as much as your hero, who has twitted 100 times some days, mostly nonsensical or deranged or cruel or racist crap.
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;)
;)
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A couple thoughts on Trump's return to the WH. Watching his return, it is clear that although he is doing well, he is suffering from pneumonia.
He had to stop on more than one occasion on his walk back, to me it look like that was to catch his breath. Even standing on the balcony it was clear that he was working hard to breath.
Given that this is still very early in the COVID time course and they have used every treatment known to man on him, it is slightly concerning.
Hopefully he has indeed clinically improved and it isn't just "apparent" improvement due to the anti-inflammatory effects of Dex.
Next couple days are still very important.
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I read a good chunk of them yesterday. And then noticed the change to his twitter profile that used to say attending physician at Walter Reed yesterday and then no longer says that today 🤷♂️
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrPhillipsMD
So the higher-ups got rid of him or told him not to tweet on behalf of WR because they didn’t like what he said? Big shocker. At the time he said it, he was a staff physician at Walter Reed. In all likelihood, he still is.
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A couple thoughts on Trump's return to the WH. Watching his return, it is clear that although he is doing well, he is suffering from pneumonia.
He had to stop on more than one occasion on his walk back, to me it look like that was to catch his breath. Even standing on the balcony it was clear that he was working hard to breath.
Given that this is still very early in the COVID time course and they have used every treatment known to man on him, it is slightly concerning.
Hopefully he has indeed clinically improved and it isn't just "apparent" improvement due to the anti-inflammatory effects of Dex.
Next couple days are still very important.
It isn't the first time he has been seen walking unsteadily in public.
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So the higher-ups got rid of him or told him not to tweet on behalf of WR because they didn’t like what he said? Big shocker. At the time he said it, he was a staff physician at Walter Reed. In all likelihood, he still is.
Ya you’re probably right. Just thought it was weird.
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A couple thoughts on Trump's return to the WH. Watching his return, it is clear that although he is doing well, he is suffering from pneumonia.
He had to stop on more than one occasion on his walk back, to me it look like that was to catch his breath. Even standing on the balcony it was clear that he was working hard to breath.
Given that this is still very early in the COVID time course and they have used every treatment known to man on him, it is slightly concerning.
Hopefully he has indeed clinically improved and it isn't just "apparent" improvement due to the anti-inflammatory effects of Dex.
Next couple days are still very important.
My wife worked oncology for a few years so she’s got a lot of experience working with very sick people. She was shocked at how bad he looked and also mentioned that it looked like he may have pneumonia.
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Well, the dentists here say their hero looks strong like ox, further proof that COVID-19 is just the common cold.
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I think people on both sides are seeing what they want to see. Let’s see what happens.
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This is a textbook example of increased work of breathing. In addition to using normal respiratory muscles (the diaphragm & those between the ribs that expand the chest cavity), “accessory muscles” in his neck are kicking in to help draw a breath
https://twitter.com/GermHunterMD/status/1313278384303149058?s=20
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He’s an old man who has covid. Even though he says it’s nothing to be scared of, of course he’s sick.
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I think people on both sides are seeing what they want to see. Let’s see what happens.
Nah, that was a shlt show. He was clearly struggling to breath, and was in a lot of pain. But he got what he wanted, his folks saw him walk in and they have enough fuel for another day.
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I think people on both sides are seeing what they want to see. Let’s see what happens.
Nah, he is struggling. See link below. But that was to be expected. He is 74 with COVID. Right now he is actually doing pretty well, but that still means he has a serious and potentially deadly condition.
This is a textbook example of increased work of breathing. In addition to using normal respiratory muscles (the diaphragm & those between the ribs that expand the chest cavity), “accessory muscles” in his neck are kicking in to help draw a breath
https://twitter.com/GermHunterMD/status/1313278384303149058?s=20
Although I think it was incredibly reckless to be up there without a mask. I give him credit for trying to project a position of strength, despite the fact that he is obviously struggling, and in pain.
If he had just worn a mask, for the staged video. Not wearing a mask was reckless and puts peoples lives in danger.
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I think trump has a tough guy complex so when he didn't serve in the military, join the police or fire dept, didn't box, didn't play football, rugby, hockey, lacrosse, etc. he still had this desperate desire to be viewed as a tough guy. So he's trying to show the world he's tougher than sickness and doesn't need a mask or hospital. And rational people know it's idiotic but his base eats that sh*t up
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Some Trump apologists, like Pace, try to frame all of their guy's eff-ups as "messaging" errors.
But they aren't just messaging eff-ups. When it comes to COVID-19, they often are willful disregard for human life.
For example, in yet the latest example of how poorly he has handled the pandemic and how he is personally responsible for Americans getting sick, getting hospitalized and dying ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/05/health/contact-tracing-white-house.html
Despite almost daily disclosures of new coronavirus infections among President Trump’s close associates, the White House is making little effort to investigate the scope and source of its outbreak.
The White House has decided not to trace the contacts of guests and staff members at the Rose Garden celebration 10 days ago for Judge Amy Coney Barrett, where at least eight people, including the president, may have become infected, according to a White House official familiar with the plans.
Instead, it has limited its efforts to notifying people who came in close contact with Mr. Trump in the two days before his Covid diagnosis Thursday evening. It has also cut the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which has the government’s most extensive knowledge and resources for contact tracing, out of the process.
Contact tracing is an essential piece of any outbreak investigation and is a key to stopping the virus from spreading further, especially after a potential “super spreader” event where many people may have been infected.
I mean, it's borderline criminal negligence on his part. And he actually flaunts it.
Doesn't care that Herman Cain died at one of his super-spreader events. Doesn't care that he went to a fundraiser infected with a highly contagious virus that he himself called "deadly stuff." Doesn't care that he exposed Secret Service agents to it so he could have a photo op. Doesn't care that downplaying it yet again likely will result in more American deaths.
"They are dying. That's right. It is what it is. Trump 2020!"
Quite a campaign slogan.
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Nah, that was a shlt show. He was clearly struggling to breath, and was in a lot of pain. But he got what he wanted, his folks saw him walk in and they have enough fuel for another day.
that whole spectacle was propaganda to a level even Kim Jong Un would consider excessive.
I mean, it's borderline criminal negligence on his part. And he actually flaunts it.
Doesn't care that Herman Cain died at one of his super-spreader events. Doesn't care that he went to a fundraiser infected with a highly contagious virus that he himself called "deadly stuff." Doesn't care that he exposed Secret Service agents to it so he could have a photo op. Doesn't care that downplaying it yet again likely will result in more American deaths.
"They are dying. That's right. It is what it is. Trump 2020!"
Quite a campaign slogan.
and never mind that he has access to medical care no "regular American" that is a part of his cultish base could ever dream of. They just eat up the "Trump is Superman" rhetoric.
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and never mind that he has access to medical care no "regular American" that is a part of his cultish base could ever dream of.
Fixed.
Anyhow, it's been mentioned here. But either his condition is more advanced (i.e. - time-frame) than we've been told, or his doctors administered Dex WAY too early. In a 4-day period he received the Regeneron, and Remdesivir and Dexamethasone treatments. Assuming the NYT has it right, the first two should be administered early, and Dex later. Getting them all at the same time is....???? At least, as current science understands.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/05/science/charting-a-covid-immune-response.html
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Fixed.
Anyhow, it's been mentioned here. But either his condition is more advanced (i.e. - time-frame) than we've been told, or his doctors administered Dex WAY too early. In a 4-day period he received the Regeneron, and Remdesivir and Dexamethasone treatments. Assuming the NYT has it right, the first two should be administered early, and Dex later. Getting them all at the same time is....???? At least, as current science understands.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/05/science/charting-a-covid-immune-response.html
That does seem crazy.
But I doubt the accuracy of that article. I mean, they didn't even mention the hydroxy/Lysol cocktail.
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Stephen Miller positive. Also there apparently was a gold star family event on Sunday after the rose garden ceremony. May be responsible for both Trumps comments to fox about the military and the pentagon outbreak reported today.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/10/02/top-generals-attended-white-house-event-days-trump-tested-positive-covid-19.html (https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/10/02/top-generals-attended-white-house-event-days-trump-tested-positive-covid-19.html)
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Stephen Miller positive. Also there apparently was a gold star family event on Sunday after the rose garden ceremony. May be responsible for both Trumps comments to fox about the military and the pentagon outbreak reported today.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/10/02/top-generals-attended-white-house-event-days-trump-tested-positive-covid-19.html (https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/10/02/top-generals-attended-white-house-event-days-trump-tested-positive-covid-19.html)
Any indications covid leads to infertility?
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Stephen Miller positive. Also there apparently was a gold star family event on Sunday after the rose garden ceremony. May be responsible for both Trumps comments to fox about the military and the pentagon outbreak reported today.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/10/02/top-generals-attended-white-house-event-days-trump-tested-positive-covid-19.html (https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/10/02/top-generals-attended-white-house-event-days-trump-tested-positive-covid-19.html)
So there is evidence of inter species transmission!
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Stephen Miller positive. Also there apparently was a gold star family event on Sunday after the rose garden ceremony. May be responsible for both Trumps comments to fox about the military and the pentagon outbreak reported today.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/10/02/top-generals-attended-white-house-event-days-trump-tested-positive-covid-19.html (https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/10/02/top-generals-attended-white-house-event-days-trump-tested-positive-covid-19.html)
Drew Magary @drewmagary
Such a shame Stephen Miller has to be forcibly separated from people he cares about
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Any indications covid leads to infertility?
only if it's retroactive as unfortunately, his wife is already pregnant.
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Stephen Miller positive. Also there apparently was a gold star family event on Sunday after the rose garden ceremony. May be responsible for both Trumps comments to fox about the military and the pentagon outbreak reported today.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/10/02/top-generals-attended-white-house-event-days-trump-tested-positive-covid-19.html (https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/10/02/top-generals-attended-white-house-event-days-trump-tested-positive-covid-19.html)
correction: COVID is positive with Stephen Miller. Thoughts and prayers to COVID.
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Dr. Evil, too? Wow.
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only if it's retroactive as unfortunately, his wife is already pregnant.
Well I won't wish ill on children, but wish their fetus had better parents
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Any late breaking health reports on Rudy Giuliani?
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Any late breaking health reports on Rudy Giuliani?
Google tells me he just coughed his way through an interview recently.
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Google tells me he just coughed his way through an interview recently.
Eh, I watched the interview last night. He coughed like five times over the course of three and a half minutes. He has been a cigar guy for a long time. Didn't seem worth reporting, nor over-blowing.
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Any Bill Barr sightings? I hear he is under quarantine. I’m sure he will be extremely cautious and remain at home until he is sure he won’t infect anybody.
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Here is an updated score card graphic of Potus related COVID-19 positive people. (It of course is subject to change for further updates.)
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Interesting score card. No Trump kids sick yet? Don’t know if I believe that. My guess is that one or two have COVID but aren’t reporting it. They should be banned from any future debates since they flaunted the rules at the last one.
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Annnnnnd now he's back to comparing it to the flu.
Twitter already tagged it: "This Tweet violated the Twitter Rules about spreading misleading and potentially harmful information related to COVID-19."
What a twat.
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When do the rats start jumping off the sinking ship???
I’m sure there are some responsible Republicans left out there.
Time for them to speak up.
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When do the rats start jumping off the sinking ship???
I’m sure there are some responsible Republicans left out there.
Time for them to speak up.
There are various voting advocate groups like Republican Voters Against Trump, The Lincoln Project, 43 Alumni for Biden, Republicans and Independents for Biden, etc. but I can't think of a single current elected national Republican who has broken from him.
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There are various voting advocate groups like Republican Voters Against Trump, The Lincoln Project, 43 Alumni for Biden, Republicans and Independents for Biden, etc. but I can't think of a single current elected national Republican who has broken from him.
Yep. Plenty of Republicans have broken ranks, but none who have a vote.
Every once in a while, it seems like a rift is growing between Trump and Collins, Romney and/or Murkowski, but in the end they usually support him. And even when they disagree, it’s typically in a very muted way.
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When do the rats start jumping off the sinking ship???
I’m sure there are some responsible Republicans left out there.
Time for them to speak up.
There are none.
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correction: COVID is positive with Stephen Miller. Thoughts and prayers to COVID.
Throw him in a cage for 14 days and hope he survives.
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I’m sure there are some responsible Republicans left out there.
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/64439492/computer-says-no.jpg
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Drew Magary @drewmagary
Such a shame Stephen Miller has to be forcibly separated from people he cares about
Quarantine him in a cage.
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Any late breaking health reports on Rudy Giuliani?
All I can tell you is that he is in the Borat sequel being released on Prime this month.
Rudy was Borat-ed.
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Someone give that fly a COVID test.
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Someone give that fly a COVID test.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1314031047013732352
Joe Biden won the debate he wasn’t even a part of. That is so, so good.
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Someone give that fly a COVID test.
Flywillvote.com
Mixed feelings. On the one hand it's encouraging that the fly is Pence's first black friend in life. But, yes, I do believe at the very least the fly needs to quarantine after tonight, considering the Pence's recent, repeated, COVID-19 exposure.
https://store.joebiden.com/truth-over-flies-fly-swatter/
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Figured he’d be all for plexiglass to guard against temptation of being on stage alone w woman not his wife
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Figured he’d be all for plexiglass to guard against temptation of being on stage alone w woman not his wife
Instead of his reflection, he sees Mother
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Just a timeout. As I have a feeling the topic will be a point of discussion again.
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Anybody who has been following what has gone on the last week even semi-closely should be deeply concerned about the president’s mental state and what it means for the country.
Yes, I am one of Scoop’s anti-Trumpers, but this goes beyond that.
I sincerely hope it is the steroids or some other drugs he’s taking for COVID-19. Because if it’s not, he has officially lost his mind.
This is not a sarcastic post. I am genuinely concerned as an American.
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Just a timeout. As I have a feeling the topic will be a point of discussion again.
First time anyone's said "in after the lock"?
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First time anyone's said "in after the lock"?
Not the first time a topic has been unlocked, but perhaps the first time it's been said. We'll did into the 'Scoop microfiche and figure this out*.
* - not really. We're pretty lazy.
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Because if it’s not, he has officially lost his mind.
This is not a sarcastic post. I am genuinely concerned as an American.
Wife and I had that conversation this evening. Looking at him as a regular Joe, I feel horrible for the guy. Serious issues going on and he needs help. But this is the leader of the free world. I hope he gets the help he needs.
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Wife and I had that conversation this evening. Looking at him as a regular Joe, I feel horrible for the guy. Serious issues going on and he needs help. But this is the leader of the free world. I hope he gets the help he needs.
Agreed, and I have said this before. The symptoms are classic for Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which usually is the result of traumatized parents (usually the mom) passing on many of her traits to her children. I suspect we rarely hear about Trump's mom because there are skeletons in that closet. Add a hard-driving dad who was always about win-win-win at any cost, and you could see how the groundwork was set for someone who always had to prove himself, but never felt any accomplishment was enough. It leads to self-aggrandizement and a need for control in public (in an attempt to counter the negative influences), but self-loathing and second-guessing in private (in response to negative outside influences). And someone who will never admit he was wrong, except to himself.
Unfortunately, the help he needs is lots of therapy...but patients with NPD are usually very resistant to treatment, because at its core, it requires them to admit they aren't any better than everybody else. Since people with NPD view this as a sort of existential threat, most never seek help, or quickly abandon treatment.
This is not a criticism of Trump. This is an opinion of what lives inside...from someone who has (1) enough of a medical background to understand; (2) a loooong family history of people with the condition; and (3) enough of an interest because of 1 and 2 to have done a LOT of reading on the causes and treatments for NPD.
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I've studied Narcissism for several years. While there are many things that I have still yet to learn....in my personal experience two very common situations produce a narcissistic child. 1) Two narcissistic parents 2) One narcissistic parent and one submissive parent.
All narcissists go through some version of 1) Idealization 2) Devalue 3) Discard
Often times in my experience narcissists prefer empaths from a romantic standpoint. But some will partner up personally and professionally with another narcissist. They do tend to find one another for mutual support as needed at times.
While sometimes the oldest child and/ot only child can be seen perhaps more often, there can be one narcissistic child in a family of say, four kids, or two or three or four. Depends on the situation. Both men and women. It isn't gender specific.
Unfortunately the only known effective treatment is to ignore and avoid a narcissist as early as possible when identifying one. That of of course can be challenging if one is in your family or friend or professional circle. Then, sadly, it sometimes becomes more of a strategic cat and mouse game to avoid huge problems and challenges. Narcissists with a lot of power in their individual situations are dangerous. The key is to limit their power as much as possible in your individual situation.
One thing some people don't understand is that there are many different types kf narcissist. They are not all extroverted, bombastic, bully braggar types. Those are perhaps some of the more obvious ones.
Narcissists don't know they are narcissists.
There are also some people who do grow up in narcissistic situations, but do later outgrow this so to speak when reaching their 30's or so. For lifelong narcissists effective treatment for it/change/improvement is not common.
Much of the research out there are strategies dealing with one as opposed to treatments.
With someone like Trump, it is interesting that so few have taken the time to do deep dives about it after four years.
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I agree with the previous two posts, but this is a COVID-19 thread, and I wasn't talking about what we already know about Trump being a narcissist and sociopath. I was specifically talking about what has been going on the last week or so.
Even for him, there is something amiss right now. His speech is halting, he looks gaunt and he is going on long, unintelligible rambles. Yes, he's still praising himself for doing nothing, still striking out at his political enemies, etc. But everything is worse now. After talking to a couple of the doctors my wife works with, I'm quite sure this is not part of the mental problems we all know he has but something physical triggered by the steroids, the other drugs, the COVID-19 itself or all of the above.
And it's damn scary that the most powerful man in the world is suffering from something that affects his mental state so obviously. He should not make any decisions more complicated than regular or extra crispy. He needs to take time to heal, and Pence should be sitting in right now.
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More than 2,000 people have been invited to a White House Event this weekend.
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Christie out of the hospital...he was in a while with no updates.
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I agree with the previous two posts, but this is a COVID-19 thread, and I wasn't talking about what we already know about Trump being a narcissist and sociopath. I was specifically talking about what has been going on the last week or so.
Even for him, there is something amiss right now. His speech is halting, he looks gaunt and he is going on long, unintelligible rambles. Yes, he's still praising himself for doing nothing, still striking out at his political enemies, etc. But everything is worse now. After talking to a couple of the doctors my wife works with, I'm quite sure this is not part of the mental problems we all know he has but something physical triggered by the steroids, the other drugs, the COVID-19 itself or all of the above.
And it's damn scary that the most powerful man in the world is suffering from something that affects his mental state so obviously. He should not make any decisions more complicated than regular or extra crispy. He needs to take time to heal, and Pence should be sitting in right now.
To me the biggest tell is McConnell's distancing of himself from POTUS.
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Anybody who has been following what has gone on the last week even semi-closely should be deeply concerned about the president’s mental state and what it means for the country.
Yes, I am one of Scoop’s anti-Trumpers, but this goes beyond that.
I sincerely hope it is the steroids or some other drugs he’s taking for COVID-19. Because if it’s not, he has officially lost his mind.
This is not a sarcastic post. I am genuinely concerned as an American.
Really Nads? You ain't seen nothin' yet, if Biden's, God forbid, elected. I guess once a journalist, always a journalist, hey?
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Lol. What more is there to see?
Really Nads? You ain't seen nothin' yet, if Biden's, God forbid, elected. I guess once a journalist, always a journalist, hey?
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The fly that landed on Pence's head would have put Old Joe in ICU on a respirator, aina?
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The fly that landed on Pence's head would have put Old Joe in ICU on a respirator, aina?
Grasping at straws using Fox News talking points thrown out the window weeks ago. Keep up, Doc
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Face it man, the dude is weak and frail. And, that's to say nothing of his cognitive ability. Ultimately, won't matta since Harris will take over as Biden resigns, takes the buy-out, and fades off into the sunset, taking one for the Dems, hey?
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Face it man, the dude is weak and frail. And, that's to say nothing of his cognitive ability. Ultimately, won't matta since Harris will take over as Biden resigns, takes the buy-out, and fades off into the sunset, taking one for the Dems, hey?
You'll notice no one is really arguing against this.
So, what's the point of talking about bidens age/frailty?
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Any Trump supporter talking about Joe Biden’s cognitive ability absolutely cracks me up.
Donald Trump, a beacon of mental stability. Lol!
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Any Trump supporter talking about Joe Biden’s cognitive ability absolutely cracks me up.
It’s a cult
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I agree with the previous two posts, but this is a COVID-19 thread, and I wasn't talking about what we already know about Trump being a narcissist and sociopath. I was specifically talking about what has been going on the last week or so.
Even for him, there is something amiss right now. His speech is halting, he looks gaunt and he is going on long, unintelligible rambles. Yes, he's still praising himself for doing nothing, still striking out at his political enemies, etc. But everything is worse now. After talking to a couple of the doctors my wife works with, I'm quite sure this is not part of the mental problems we all know he has but something physical triggered by the steroids, the other drugs, the COVID-19 itself or all of the above.
And it's damn scary that the most powerful man in the world is suffering from something that affects his mental state so obviously. He should not make any decisions more complicated than regular or extra crispy. He needs to take time to heal, and Pence should be sitting in right now.
Every additional factor affects a narcissist, i.e. the aging process, COVID-19, etc ..
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You'll notice no one is really arguing against this.
So, what's the point of talking about bidens age/frailty?
Because it is embarrassing to have to defend the super spreader in chief.
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How did his Fox News medical exam go last night? Anyone buy the PPV?
You’d think it would have gotten more coverage.
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Face it man, the dude is weak and frail. And, that's to say nothing of his cognitive ability. Ultimately, won't matta since Harris will take over as Biden resigns, takes the buy-out, and fades off into the sunset, taking one for the Dems, hey?
I'll take dottering old Biden, who is willing to work with people and who is clearly not financially compromised... over a dottering old Trump who is isolationist, burns bridges, and is CLEARLY financially compromised.
Like, what is it about Trump that makes you FEEL (because lord knows it isn't logic) that he is okay?
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Face it man, the dude is weak and frail. And, that's to say nothing of his cognitive ability. Ultimately, won't matta since Harris will take over as Biden resigns, takes the buy-out, and fades off into the sunset, taking one for the Dems, hey?
Fine by me.
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Fine by me.
But she's a communist monster.
Or is it monster communist?
Either way, I'm sure she's very bad.
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Every additional factor affects a narcissist, i.e. the aging process, COVID-19, etc ..
Yep. Especially factors that hint at imperfection, losses, mortality and the like.
1. Aging
2. Polls suggesting he could lose in a landslide
3. Covid
4. Being proven wrong again and again (masks, hydroxychloroquine, "just the flu, open by Easter).
It all adds up.
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Face it man, the dude is weak and frail. And, that's to say nothing of his cognitive ability. Ultimately, won't matta since Harris will take over as Biden resigns, takes the buy-out, and fades off into the sunset, taking one for the Dems, hey?
The guy who rides a bicycle regularly is frail and weak vs the guy who can't even walk down a ramp? Oooookay.
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The guy who rides a bicycle regularly is frail and weak vs the guy who can't even walk down a ramp? Oooookay.
And then there was this....
Trump rode golf cart while G7 leaders walked through Sicily
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335424-trump-rode-golf-cart-while-g7-leaders-walked-through-siciliy
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Trump and his supporters have no business calling Biden frail and weak.
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Face it man, the dude is weak and frail. And, that's to say nothing of his cognitive ability. Ultimately, won't matta since Harris will take over as Biden resigns, takes the buy-out, and fades off into the sunset, taking one for the Dems, hey?
Hey.
All I know is that the frail dude practically sprinted to the podium at his Michigan event last week while your hero was getting $100K+ of taxpayer-funded medical care because he refused to follow the basic guidelines that he himself had put out in April.
But I don't want to argue about the corrupt, inept, impeached, infected POTUS, who has the deaths of 213K Americans on his hands.
All I said is that something obviously is wrong with him now. It's obvious. It's a subject concerning many, many Republicans.
He's the president. We need a healthy president and we don't have one. You should be very concerned, too, if you care about America.
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Mike Pence event in Florida today. Whoa. This thread.
https://twitter.com/josiensor/status/1315015264937926657
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Mike Pence event in Florida today. Whoa. This thread.
https://twitter.com/josiensor/status/1315015264937926657
From the guy who told Harris to stop politicizing human lives a few nights ago. Outstanding.
But hey, just wait until Sleepy Joe gets in the office. We ain’t seen nothin yet.
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Mike Pence event in Florida today. Whoa. This thread.
https://twitter.com/josiensor/status/1315015264937926657
All human life is sacred to Mike Pence.
Save the babies! Save the babies!
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Hey.
All I know is that the frail dude practically sprinted to the podium at his Michigan event last week while your hero was getting $100K+ of taxpayer-funded medical care because he refused to follow the basic guidelines that he himself had put out in April.
But I don't want to argue about the corrupt, inept, impeached, infected POTUS, who has the deaths of 213K Americans on his hands.
All I said is that something obviously is wrong with him now. It's obvious. It's a subject concerning many, many Republicans.
He's the president. We need a healthy president and we don't have one. You should be very concerned, too, if you care about America.
Yeah, but can Biden drink water with one hand?
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all i'm going to say, an honest person will admit that when our media stories are slanted 150 times more negative to one side over the other, regardless of who it is, it is not good for our country-period.
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all i'm going to say, an honest person will admit that when our media stories are slanted 150 times more negative to one side over the other, regardless of who it is, it is not good for our country-period.
It is the media’s fault Cheetoh Jesus got the China Flu, that’s for sure
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all i'm going to say, an honest person will admit that when our media stories are slanted 150 times more negative to one side over the other, regardless of who it is, it is not good for our country-period.
Things that apparently aren't real:
Fox News
OANN
Talk.Radio
Wall Street Journal
Chicago Tribune
New York Post
Washington Times
The Hill
National Review
Breitbart
Red State
Daily Caller
Daily Wire
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all i'm going to say, an honest person will admit that when our media stories are slanted 150 times more negative to one side over the other, regardless of who it is, it is not good for our country-period.
An honest person would admit that when the president of the United States downplays and lies about a potentially deadly virus for months and months and months, and then is done in by the very policies (or lack thereof) that contributed to 214K American deaths, and doesn't even care if he infects his own family and supporters, it is not good for our country-period.
Also not good for our country: that Americans would think it is a good idea to defend and enable this behavior, in part by blaming the media.
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Mike Pence event in Florida today. Whoa. This thread.
https://twitter.com/josiensor/status/1315015264937926657
Someone flew this sky sign during the Mike Pence event. Pretty simple and to the point:
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The frail dude has yet to tweet ‘covfefe’.
And the Villages are full of nuts. A friend has a place there for the winter, and he often shares stuff from their local paper. It is always good for a laugh.
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all i'm going to say, an honest person will admit that when our media stories are slanted 150 times more negative to one side over the other, regardless of who it is, it is not good for our country-period.
its so unfair. All I'm going to say is that 95% of the complaints about Trump are based on his own statements and posts, what we call admissions. As was his impeachment which we now see was based on pretty small potatoes compared to the rest of his conduct, or lack thereof.
Never forget that it was "slanted media stories" that got Trump elected in the first place.
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Face it man, the dude is weak and frail.
So, so true.
Here is a clip at the end of which Biden can barely crawl up some stairs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IlOT5fuv5c
Whereas here is the greatest President of all time dominating a ramp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bqvGXGN4DA
Here is frail Joe having to rely on a mechanical device just to get around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQXhzNDMWrg
But the Commander-in-Chief shows how he can slam a beer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a6AhuykK-Q
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2 brain aneurysms in his history takes a toll, hey?
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2 brain aneurysms in his history takes a toll, hey?
Real doctors say otherwise.
The two brain aneurysms Biden suffered in 1988 were fully treated and he showed no signs of mental trouble as a result, said Dr. Neal Kassell, who performed the surgery on Biden three decades ago. Nor did Biden suffer any brain damage that could come back to haunt him in old age, Kassell said.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/20/joe-biden-old-age-1468635
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Desperately grasping at straws. Looking for the splinter in the other's eyes while ignoring the plank in your own.
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2 brain aneurysms in his history takes a toll, hey?
I would agree. As does the stroke the current president had last fall. Coupled with his China Flu, one wonders how long he has
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Desperately grasping at straws. Looking for the splinter in the other's eyes while ignoring the plank in your own.
I don't blame them.
When you have decided to worship a man who has the blood of 215K Americans on his hands and who has overseen a terrible economic crash -- all because of his historic failure when dealing with the only crisis of his presidency -- you have to try to make up stuff about the other guy.
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How 'bout we have them do a mile, winner take all?
And no - Trump does not get to use a golf cart, hermetically-sealed SUV or helicopter.
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All human life is sacred to Mike Pence.
Save the babies! Save the babies!
63,000,000 > 200,000
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63,000,000
Come on ... don’t exaggerate ... Trump has only lied HALF that much!
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63,000,000 > 200,000
You don’t want the government controlling your body by ordering you to wear a mask.
You want total control over a women’s body.
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63,000,000 > 200,000
Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.
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C'mon man! Straight from Guttmacher/PP and CDC:
http://www.nrlc.org/uploads/factsheets/FS01AbortionintheUS.pdf
This has been reported for having nothing to do with Covid. It's whataboutism and will not yield any intellectual debate because the argument is whether a fetus is a life or not which you're trying to compare to those with friends, family life experiences, societal impact and value who have died of covid.
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Ok. I'll just shut this down unless we hear that POTUS is (still?) having Covid complications.