Update on Sam Hauser

[The Sultan]

6-10 guy with a decent outside shot who can handle the ball. I'm not saying he'll be an all star or that he's unbelievably athletic but I certainly think he'll get his cup of coffee.

Cup of coffee?  Sure.  200 games like Dekker?  I doubt it.

[Galway Eagle]

Cup of coffee?  Sure.  200 games like Dekker?  I doubt it.

Oh yeah I highly doubt he gets 200 games just think that he gets there.

[brewcity77]

Yeah, I mean I am sure Izzo is going to get more out of him than what we saw his freshman year, but I didn't see an overabundance of athleticism from Joey. 

I don't know...looks like Joey is getting a good sniff of the NBA in that pic.

[The Sultan]

Oh yeah I highly doubt he gets 200 games just think that he gets there.

Gotcha.  I originally meant not getting to 200 games.  So yet again, another Scoop debate brought you by a miscommunication.

[The Lens]

I think work ethic and lack of entitlement leans severely in the favor of the Hausers over Henry.

[GooooMarquette]

I think work ethic and lack of entitlement leans severely in the favor of the Hausers over Henry.

Work ethic maybe.

But lack of entitlement? These are the guys who left because our go-to guy happened to be one of the NCAA's all-time leading scorers. And Sam had already been here a couple of years before Joey showed up and 'noticed' Markus. C'mon.

[The Lens]

Work ethic maybe.

But lack of entitlement? These are the guys who left because our go-to guy happened to be one of the NCAA's all-time leading scorers. And Sam had already been here a couple of years before Joey showed up and 'noticed' Markus. C'mon.

The left to go to the two most selfless teams in the country.  I would see your point more if they ran off to Iowa State or Nebraska but when you leave for UVA and MSU, that tells me you want to play the game a certain way.  No different than Jimmy Butler working his way to the Heat.

[The Sultan]

The left to go to the two most selfless teams in the country.  I would see your point more if they ran off to Iowa State or Nebraska but when you leave for UVA and MSU, that tells me you want to play the game a certain way.  No different than Jimmy Butler working his way to the Heat.

A very Badgeresque response.

[GooooMarquette]

The left to go to the two most selfless teams in the country.  I would see your point more if they ran off to Iowa State or Nebraska but when you leave for UVA and MSU, that tells me you want to play the game a certain way.  No different than Jimmy Butler working his way to the Heat.

But again, Joey had been watching Sam play this way for two years. If the goal was to play a different style of ball, it was a pretty silly decision to come in the first place. Did he really think he was going to change how Wojo coached?

[Pakuni]

The left to go to the two most selfless teams in the country.  I would see your point more if they ran off to Iowa State or Nebraska but when you leave for UVA and MSU, that tells me you want to play the game a certain way.  No different than Jimmy Butler working his way to the Heat.

It tells me they wanted to go to the best program that would have them.
Who picks Iowa State over Virginia? Or Nebraska over Michigan State?

[Uncle Rico]

The left to go to the two most selfless teams in the country.  I would see your point more if they ran off to Iowa State or Nebraska but when you leave for UVA and MSU, that tells me you want to play the game a certain way.  No different than Jimmy Butler working his way to the Heat.

What way does Michigan State play?  Hope he likes playing with a bunch of one-and-dones looking to get to the Association

[ATL MU Warrior]

The left to go to the two most selfless teams in the country.  I would see your point more if they ran off to Iowa State or Nebraska but when you leave for UVA and MSU, that tells me you want to play the game a certain way.  No different than Jimmy Butler working his way to the Heat.

C'mon

[TSmith34, Inc.]

What about Joey Hauser's freshman year makes you think he can sniff the NBA?

4x BE Freshman of the Week? Sure, Ja Morant made him look silly, and his whiny attitude contributed to a 2nd half of the season tailspin, but there is a lot of talent there.

[#UnleashSean]

Yeah, I mean I am sure Izzo is going to get more out of him than what we saw his freshman year, but I didn't see an overabundance of athleticism from Joey. 

Everytime I see this picture in an attack on Joey I lose braincells.

It was very clearly 100% on Bailey...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8xzYNhvpxk&ab_channel=GPII

[The Sultan]

4x BE Freshman of the Week?

Lol. Sure. Nothing says NBA ready like being the BE Freshman of the Week, not once, not twice, not even three times. ..BUT FOUR TIMES!!!!

[Its DJOver]

4x BE Freshman of the Week? Sure, Ja Morant made him look silly, and his whiny attitude contributed to a 2nd half of the season tailspin, but there is a lot of talent there.

How many player of the week/month/year awards did Markus win?  Are they going to help him make the Association?  There is a lot of talent there.

NBA value is based on who you can defend, and I honestly don't see either player being able to defend well enough to stick with a roster.

[Jockey]

How many player of the week/month/year awards did Markus win?  Are they going to help him make the Association?  There is a lot of talent there.

NBA value is based on who you can defend, and I honestly don't see either player being able to defend well enough to stick with a roster.

Most college BB fans don't understand this point.

[Its DJOver]

Most college BB fans don't understand this point.

Yep, there's also a difference between being a bad defender because you make a lot of mental mistakes, and being a bad defender because you don't posses the physical attributes to succeed.  Juan was a liability as a Freshman because he had no clue what was going on, but no one ever doubted his physical abilities.  Joey had his fair share of mental lapses, but on top of that, doesn't appear to have the capability to be a good enough defender even if those lapses get fixed.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Lol. Sure. Nothing says NBA ready like being the BE Freshman of the Week, not once, not twice, not even three times. ..BUT FOUR TIMES!!!!

The question wasn't "NBA ready", was it?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

How many player of the week/month/year awards did Markus win?  Are they going to help him make the Association?  There is a lot of talent there.

NBA value is based on who you can defend, and I honestly don't see either player being able to defend well enough to stick with a roster.

My mistake, Joey actually won BE Freshman of the Week 5 times, not 4. Markus won the award 3 times. Both were named to the All BE Freshman Team.

I agree that it is unlikely that either is good enough to stick, but IMO both have enough talent to have a chance of a sniff at the NBA, which was what the question was.

[Its DJOver]

My mistake, Joey actually won BE Freshman of the Week 5 times, not 4. Markus won the award 3 times. Both were named to the All BE Freshman Team.

I agree that it is unlikely that either is good enough to stick, but IMO both have enough talent to have a chance of a sniff at the NBA, which was what the question was.

But you didn't say that you thought he had the talent to get a sniff.  You said Joey winning this award as a freshman means that he'll sniff the NBA.  By that logic, anyone that wins a BEast Freshman of the week should be able to sniff the NBA.  Haanif made the all-Freshman team, was that enough for him to sniff the NBA?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

But you didn't say that you thought he had the talent to get a sniff.  You said Joey winning this award as a freshman means that he'll sniff the NBA.  By that logic, anyone that wins a BEast Freshman of the week should be able to sniff the NBA.  Haanif made the all-Freshman team, was that enough for him to sniff the NBA?

No, not really, but we are definitely talking minutia at this point. The exact question was, "What about Joey Hauser's freshman year makes you think he can sniff the NBA?"

I didn't say "he'll sniff the NBA" as you did above, I was answering whether he "can sniff the NBA". I wasn't predicting he definitely would, only that IMO he has enough talent that there is a reasonable chance. I mean, we are kind of violently agreeing at this point.

[Billy Hoyle]

What way does Michigan State play?  Hope he likes playing with a bunch of one-and-dones looking to get to the Association

MSU has the occasional one and done but we're not talking UK or Duke here. The last I can remember is Jaren Jackson, Jr. But Valentine  and Winston were BT POY and four year guys.

[Lennys Tap]

The left to go to the two most selfless teams in the country.  I would see your point more if they ran off to Iowa State or Nebraska but when you leave for UVA and MSU, that tells me you want to play the game a certain way.  No different than Jimmy Butler working his way to the Heat.

Damn you and your logic/common sense. People here prefer their sour grapes.

[Galway Eagle]

MSU has the occasional one and done but we're not talking UK or Duke here. The last I can remember is Jaren Jackson, Jr. But Valentine  and Winston were BT POY and four year guys.

Yeah he won't be playing with one and dined just a heck of a lot more players at his talent level or better.