2020-21 NFL Season

[MU82]

How good he ultimately is definitely remains to be seen. But I think we will see massive improvement in a new spot from him.

Jets handled that terribly. And will be funny if Wilson ends up a bust.

I'd be chuckling. And I'd really be laughing if Darnold goes on to realize the potential that made him a high draft pick a few years ago.

[MUBurrow]

Contract timing aside, I'd rather have Darnold than Mac Jones straight up.  So I think Carolina took a nice flyer on Darnold.

[The Sultan]

How good he ultimately is definitely remains to be seen. But I think we will see massive improvement in a new spot from him.

Jets handled that terribly. And will be funny if Wilson ends up a bust.

I'm trying to think of an "aspirational comparison" for Darnold to shoot for.

He's made 38 starts.  His career QB rating is 78.6.  In 2020, he was dead last in passer rating among quarterbacks with enough attempts to qualify.

Of course it depends on your definition of "massive improvement," but I'm kind of thinking that this type of improvement from a player that has played that much is incredibly rare.

Maybe Rich Gannon?  IDK...

[Jockey]

I'm trying to think of an "aspirational comparison" for Darnold to shoot for.

He's made 38 starts.  His career QB rating is 78.6.  In 2020, he was dead last in passer rating among quarterbacks with enough attempts to qualify.

Of course it depends on your definition of "massive improvement," but I'm kind of thinking that this type of improvement from a player that has played that much is incredibly rare.

Maybe Rich Gannon?  IDK...

I'd be interested in the stats for all of Adam Gase's QBs.

[JWags85]

I'm trying to think of an "aspirational comparison" for Darnold to shoot for.

He's made 38 starts.  His career QB rating is 78.6.  In 2020, he was dead last in passer rating among quarterbacks with enough attempts to qualify.

Of course it depends on your definition of "massive improvement," but I'm kind of thinking that this type of improvement from a player that has played that much is incredibly rare.

Maybe Rich Gannon?  IDK...

Alex Smith.  He made 50 starts and had a significant injury before starting to put it together with Harbaugh in his 7th season and then becoming a Pro Bowler.

Then I mean, to a lesser extent, Tannehill was pretty awful his first 2 years in Miami, got a new OC and became much more serviceable, borderline pretty good, before his injury. That's not even including his time in Tennessee

[lostpassword]

I'm trying to think of an "aspirational comparison" for Darnold to shoot for.

He's made 38 starts.  His career QB rating is 78.6.  In 2020, he was dead last in passer rating among quarterbacks with enough attempts to qualify.

Of course it depends on your definition of "massive improvement," but I'm kind of thinking that this type of improvement from a player that has played that much is incredibly rare.

Maybe Rich Gannon?  IDK...

Brees didn't get it figured out in San Diego until year 4.   11 less starts thru year 3 but some similarities.

Darnold:
Year 1: 13 starts, 77.6 rating
Year 2 + 3: 25 games started, 28TD, 24 Int, 79.1 Rating
Year 3: Rating of 72.7.  35 of 35 QBs w/ enough attempts
Overall QB rating years 1 thru 3: 78.6

Brees:
Year 1: only 27 attempts (backup to Flutie)
Year 2 + 3: 27 games started; 28TD, 31 Int, 73.1 Rating
Year 3: Rating of 67.5.  28 of 32 QBs w/ enough attempts
Overall QB rating years 1 thru 3: 73.7

Aside: just glanced at Gannon's stats.  He was 34 (!) before he threw more than 16TDs in a season and threw more after age 34 than before.

[The Sultan]

Brees didn't get it figured out in San Diego until year 4.   11 less starts thru year 3 but some similarities.

Darnold:
Year 1: 13 starts, 77.6 rating
Year 2 + 3: 25 games started, 28TD, 24 Int, 79.1 Rating
Year 3: Rating of 72.7.  35 of 35 QBs w/ enough attempts
Overall QB rating years 1 thru 3: 78.6

Brees:
Year 1: only 27 attempts (backup to Flutie)
Year 2 + 3: 27 games started; 28TD, 31 Int, 73.1 Rating
Year 3: Rating of 67.5.  28 of 32 QBs w/ enough attempts
Overall QB rating years 1 thru 3: 73.7

OK.  That's decent.  I doubt that Darnold will be an all pro in year four but one can dream...

[lostpassword]

OK.  That's decent.  I doubt that Darnold will be an all pro in year four but one can dream...

Agree.  More likely Jeff George or Rick Mirer (two guys I felt were always purported to be on the verge of greatness) than Brees.

[Dish]

I believe Matt Campbell will get the Lions job.

Reported that Matt Campbell was indeed the Lions first choice, and he turned down an 8 yr/$68.5 mil contract.

I don't have as many friends in the NFL as I used to, but had heard mid season last year if the Lions fired Patricia, their first choice was going to be Matt Campbell.

[HutchwasClutch]

Julio Jones to the Titans for a 2nd rounder next year, and the teams swap 4th and 6th round selections in '23, Falcons getting the 4th.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Pretty good deal if you're the Titans.

[Dish]

Falcons not paying any of the $15.3 mil due to Julio is a huge win.

[The Sultan]

Falcons not paying any of the $15.3 mil due to Julio is a huge win.

Yeah, Julio takes up way too much cap space for a receiver IMO.

[JWags85]

Julio's injury history, age, and contract were gonna prevent the Falcons from getting any massive haul.  But if he can stay healthy for a couple years, what a steal for the Titans.  Brown, Julio, and Henry is a pretty gnarly 3 headed monster of skill positions.

[MU82]

Julio's injury history, age, and contract were gonna prevent the Falcons from getting any massive haul.  But if he can stay healthy for a couple years, what a steal for the Titans.  Brown, Julio, and Henry is a pretty gnarly 3 headed monster of skill positions.

Agree. Even if you get one typical Julio Jones season and one decent one, this was a great deal for the Titans.

And as a Panthers fan, I am thrilled to get him out of the division.

[jesmu84]

Aaron holding out.

[cheebs09]

Aaron holding out.

Raised my nervousness a bit, but not overly concerned yet. The money won't really impact him, so it's an easy way to make a statement. That's if the Packers even fine him. If he starts missing Training Camp, then I'll be really worried.

[The Sultan]

I'm not worried.  Because I have come to the conclusion awhile ago that Rodgers is done in GB.  IMO, he will sit out this year and be traded in the off-season.

At best, he will play one more year under an agreement with the organization that he be traded to a list of agreed upon teams in the off-season.

[4everwarriors]

Adios and next man up, hey?

[Herman Cain]

Adios and next man up, hey?

Love says he is ready.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/06/09/jordan-love-a-hundred-percent-ready-to-start-if-aaron-rodgers-stays-away/

[Jockey]

Love says he is ready.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/06/09/jordan-love-a-hundred-percent-ready-to-start-if-aaron-rodgers-stays-away/

Heck, I'm ready, too.

I would suck and my guess is that Love will too, if he has to play. I will root for him, but I don't expect much.

[Herman Cain]

Comments from Vander on Rodgers Imbroglio

https://twitter.com/veezy_SQ/status/1402396682608791554

[Herman Cain]

Murphy having some fun

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/packers-president-on-aaron-rodgers-hes-a-complicated-fella-as-ted-thompson-used-to-say/

[The Sultan]

Murphy having some fun

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/packers-president-on-aaron-rodgers-hes-a-complicated-fella-as-ted-thompson-used-to-say/

My emerging theory is that they know this isn't going to work out, so want him to sit out the year and they'll trade him next year.

[4everwarriors]

Stupid on the Pack's part. His trade value drops significantly in a year after sitting out. Act like business men and get what you can now. Don't make it personal, aina?