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The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass


tower912

Lions gotta Lions.    Rebuild, fail, repeat.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 21, 2021, 11:59:17 AM
So same old Detroit.  Got it.


"Take on the identity of the city."

Jesus, do people still fall for that crap? 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

This already feels like the Marinelli hire.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ChuckyChip

Ted Thompson passes away - https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2021/01/21/green-bay-packers-former-general-manager-ted-thompson-dies-68/6657178002/

Great quote upon drafting Aaron Rodgers: "I just think when you look back five years from now you'll say, 'This was a hell of a pick.'"

Indeed.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 21, 2021, 12:12:12 PM

"Take on the identity of the city."

Jesus, do people still fall for that crap?


If the Lions take on the identity of Detroit, they will play like a bunch of abandoned factories.

Wait - isn't that what they have been doing all along?!?

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 21, 2021, 12:12:12 PM

"Take on the identity of the city."

Jesus, do people still fall for that crap?

If you've been anywhere in the US of A you know the general public LOVES platitudes.  A lot of people even decorate their houses full of them!

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 21, 2021, 02:19:29 PM
If you've been anywhere in the US of A you know the general public LOVES platitudes.  A lot of people even decorate their houses full of them!


It is what it is.

Jockey

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 21, 2021, 02:19:29 PM
If you've been anywhere in the US of A you know the general public LOVES platitudes.  A lot of people even decorate their houses full of them!

Or put them on Facebook incessantly. It's way easier than actually thinking.

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 21, 2021, 02:19:29 PM
If you've been anywhere in the US of A you know the general public LOVES platitudes.  A lot of people even decorate their houses full of them!


"Do we really need a sign that says 'Live, Laugh and Love?'"
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

The Lions hired a GM that was on no one else's radar and a coach that was on no one else's radar.    I WISH we had problems like the Bears.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: GooooMarquette on January 21, 2021, 02:09:51 PM

If the Lions take on the identity of Detroit, they will play like a bunch of abandoned factories.

Wait - isn't that what they have been doing all along?!?

Now it would be hipsters riding fixed gear bikes and left Brooklyn because it was becoming too mainstream.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

jesmu84

What are the Steelers doing? Really gonna start Haskins?

MUBurrow

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 21, 2021, 03:53:24 PM
What are the Steelers doing? Really gonna start Haskins?

I don't think so. Haven't seen the $ on Haskins but its only a one year deal. Dobbs is a free agent so I think this is just a former top draft pick for depth and development for free. If Roethlisberger retires, I assume they'll bring someone else in.  Handicapping now, I think Rudolph is more likely to be their starter next year than Haskins.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 21, 2021, 03:53:24 PM
What are the Steelers doing? Really gonna start Haskins?

Low risk signing
Guster is for Lovers

JWags85

I'm very curious to know what Bieniemy interviews like, cause something has to be off. I'm not naive enough to ignore the racial issues within the NFL, but I refuse to believe that it's solely a racial thing. Ron Rivera, Brian Flores, and now Robert Salah have all been hired as minority candidates since he became a hot name. And interestingly, 2 of the most recent openings were filled by African American GMs

jesmu84

Quote from: MUBurrow on January 21, 2021, 03:59:48 PM
I don't think so. Haven't seen the $ on Haskins but its only a one year deal. Dobbs is a free agent so I think this is just a former top draft pick for depth and development for free. If Roethlisberger retires, I assume they'll bring someone else in.  Handicapping now, I think Rudolph is more likely to be their starter next year than Haskins.
Makes sense. Thanks.

The Sultan

I also think the fact that he has been in the AFC Championship Game three years in a row is a problem.  Everyone is in a rush to hire a coach and doesn't want to wait.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

nyg

Quote from: JWags85 on January 21, 2021, 06:38:48 PM
I'm very curious to know what Bieniemy interviews like, cause something has to be off. I'm not naive enough to ignore the racial issues within the NFL, but I refuse to believe that it's solely a racial thing. Ron Rivera, Brian Flores, and now Robert Salah have all been hired as minority candidates since he became a hot name. And interestingly, 2 of the most recent openings were filled by African American GMs

From what I have read, he has prior arrest, some past personal issues and actually does not call the offensive plays during the game.  Other writers have said anybody could call plays with Mahomes and his offensive weapons. Other past coaches, I think Nagy, have also not called plays, but...  Maybe GMs have additional info or he just flopped in the interviews, but something happened. He was probably the number one hot coaching prospect few weeks ago, so not a racial thing to me. Maybe Texans pick him, maybe not. 


The Sultan

Quote from: nyg on January 21, 2021, 06:52:23 PM
From what I have read, he has prior arrest, some past personal issues and actually does not call the offensive plays during the game.  Other writers have said anybody could call plays with Mahomes and his offensive weapons. Other past coaches, I think Nagy, have also not called plays, but...  Maybe GMs have additional info or he just flopped in the interviews, but something happened. He was probably the number one hot coaching prospect few weeks ago, so not a racial thing to me. Maybe Texans pick him, maybe not. 





Bieniemy's legal issues date back to his college days except for a DUI in 2001. 

I get the "not calling plays" criticism, but the legal one would be kind of nuts.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

nyg

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 21, 2021, 06:55:31 PM


Bieniemy's legal issues date back to his college days except for a DUI in 2001. 

I get the "not calling plays" criticism, but the legal one would be kind of nuts.

Just posting what I read, not beliefs. Some organizations don't care about time frame, just the fact it's there. Again, there must be something else going on.

Here is article read a few hours ago, good points. 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/eric-bieniemy-still-isnt-an-nfl-head-coach-and-every-excuse-why-falls-flat-205139525.html


Billy Hoyle

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Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 21, 2021, 06:55:31 PM


Bieniemy's legal issues date back to his college days except for a DUI in 2001. 

I get the "not calling plays" criticism, but the legal one would be kind of nuts.

There his involvement with recruiting scandals involving sexual assault at CU too when he was a coach there.

So, if you hire him you've hired a woman beater and alleged rape enabler. If you don't you're a discriminatory racist. What group do you piss off more?

By the way, his own Alma mater didn't hire him as head coach but has hired other minority coaches.

And, apparently he's sucks at interviewing. Comes off as aloof and arrogant. I think we've all had job candidates come in whom were great on paper but not in person. And, maybe, he's just not taking the jobs that have been out there.

https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-rumors-eric-bieniemy-coach/



"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Nick Sirianni didn't call plays for the Colts; hired by Eagles.

Urban Meyer has off field baggage ranging from health issues to rumored affairs with coeds; hired by Jaguars.

Dan Campbell talks about biting people's kneecaps in a press conference but apparently interviewed well enough to be hired by the Lions.

Strange league.

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