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Re: Ia a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2020, 09:02:23 PM »
If they play, it’ll be an abbreviated season.  The NFL won’t move the draft and combine.  Kids would be smart to start preparing for the draft now.

This makes the huge assumption that the NFL season will go off without a hitch. I could easily see that either being pushed back or being in a start/stop situation.
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Re: Ia a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2020, 09:07:13 PM »
@jbook37: Penn State is now on board with leaving the Big Ten if they have to.  So far 3 of the 4 rumored schools in Ohio State, Penn State, Nebraska who supposedly was throwing out feelers to the Big 12 have confirmed in the last 24 hours they are indeed open to playing elsewhere.

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Iowa is the fourth school.

Also, Big 12 and SEC schools are looking to poach the best BIG 10 players and lobbying the NCAA to allow immediate transfers of teams that elect to not play this fall.

Meanwhile the BIG 10 and PAC-12 are lobbying that all fall sports at all D1 conferences get postponed.

Penn State leaving the Big Ten (they won’t leave the money behind they’d lose in the Big XII) after the Big Ten kept them despite allowing a sexual predator to roam free on their campus to protect Joe Paterno would be extra juicy
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Re: Ia a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2020, 09:25:30 PM »
This could poach the entire first and maybe second round of next's year NFL draft and water-down whatever spring football season college football thinks it will have.

The Spring League will be first to use bubble concept in football for October tournament in Las Vegas
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29638025/spring-league-become-first-utilize-bubble-concept-football-six-team-october-tournament-las-vegas

The Spring League is scheduling a six-team football tournament in Las Vegas in October, using a bubble concept that would be the first of its kind in the sport during the coronavirus pandemic.

The teams would be stocked mostly with players who were released by NFL teams, according to The Spring League CEO Brian Woods. But it would also include 20-30 college players from FBS Power 5 schools that either opted out of playing in 2020 or had their seasons canceled.
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Re: Ia a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2020, 09:30:35 PM »
Why a college football season this year is so important ...

Wisconsin warns of potential athletic department loss of $100M even with a football season
https://sports.yahoo.com/wisconsin-were-facing-a-potential-athletic-department-loss-of-100-m-even-with-a-football-season-213559242.html
Wisconsin’s athletic department is warning fans and donors of a huge decrease in revenue even if the 2020 football season is played.

In a letter to supporters Thursday, athletic director Barry Alvarez said that the department is expecting an approximate $100 million budget shortfall. Wisconsin’s athletic budget is around $140 million, meaning the department could only get $40 million in revenue this upcoming athletic year.

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Re: Ia a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2020, 11:16:00 PM »
@jbook37: Penn State is now on board with leaving the Big Ten if they have to.  So far 3 of the 4 rumored schools in Ohio State, Penn State, Nebraska who supposedly was throwing out feelers to the Big 12 have confirmed in the last 24 hours they are indeed open to playing elsewhere.

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Iowa is the fourth school.

Also, Big 12 and SEC schools are looking to poach the best BIG 10 players and lobbying the NCAA to allow immediate transfers of teams that elect to not play this fall.

Meanwhile the BIG 10 and PAC-12 are lobbying that all fall sports at all D1 conferences get postponed.


It would be hysterical if one or more of these teams left. The other conferences are eventually going to cancel anyway. So what will it get these teams - a few extra weeks of delusional thinking? Great.

MLB teams can’t even do it, and they have smaller rosters, far less direct physical contact and nearly infinite resources. There is no way college football teams would last more than a couple of games...

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Re: Ia a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2020, 11:36:03 PM »
@jbook37: Penn State is now on board with leaving the Big Ten if they have to.  So far 3 of the 4 rumored schools in Ohio State, Penn State, Nebraska who supposedly was throwing out feelers to the Big 12 have confirmed in the last 24 hours they are indeed open to playing elsewhere.

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Iowa is the fourth school.

Also, Big 12 and SEC schools are looking to poach the best BIG 10 players and lobbying the NCAA to allow immediate transfers of teams that elect to not play this fall.

Meanwhile the BIG 10 and PAC-12 are lobbying that all fall sports at all D1 conferences get postponed.
ACC would be delighted to have Ohio State and Penn State for a season. Likewise Big 12 would roll out the red carpet for Nebraska and Iowa for a season.

I think the conferences who end up playing this fall will benefit in recruiting in the future.

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Re: Ia a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2020, 06:18:48 AM »
Until players start getting sick. No doubt that it will happen. By the way most lineman are high risk because they're overweight.

This.

What will the plan be when a dozen or more players on a team get sick on a Wednesday? Cancel that week's games for both that team and the team they played the previous Saturday? And then what about the coaches, trainers, support staff? And then what about whomever the players and coaches/support staff came in contact with -- spouses, girlfriends, family members, classmates?

The idea that you can keep Mississippi State players and coaches and support staff safe when you can't keep St. Louis Cardinals players and coaches safe is pretty laughable. The big difference, of course, is that the Cardinals are well compensated to take the risks for themselves and their families.

This is the very definition of "folly."
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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2020, 08:01:36 AM »
@jbook37: Penn State is now on board with leaving the Big Ten if they have to.  So far 3 of the 4 rumored schools in Ohio State, Penn State, Nebraska who supposedly was throwing out feelers to the Big 12 have confirmed in the last 24 hours they are indeed open to playing elsewhere.

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Iowa is the fourth school.

Also, Big 12 and SEC schools are looking to poach the best BIG 10 players and lobbying the NCAA to allow immediate transfers of teams that elect to not play this fall.

Meanwhile the BIG 10 and PAC-12 are lobbying that all fall sports at all D1 conferences get postponed.


Gene Smith has already said that OSU isn't interested in playing elsewhere this fall.  Regardless, both OSU and PSU presidents voted to delay the season.  They aren't going anywhere.
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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2020, 08:03:57 AM »
ACC would be delighted to have Ohio State and Penn State for a season. Likewise Big 12 would roll out the red carpet for Nebraska and Iowa for a season.

I think the conferences who end up playing this fall will benefit in recruiting in the future.


It's not happening.  Rumor is that the presidents have let Nebraska know that they would have to leave the conference for that to happen.  The B10 doesn't have an exit fee, but controls their media rights.

It would be a really dumb decision to leave for one football season and leave that revenue on the table.
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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2020, 08:31:53 AM »

Gene Smith has already said that OSU isn't interested in playing elsewhere this fall.  Regardless, both OSU and PSU presidents voted to delay the season.  They aren't going anywhere.


It's not happening.  Rumor is that the presidents have let Nebraska know that they would have to leave the conference for that to happen.  The B10 doesn't have an exit fee, but controls their media rights.

It would be a really dumb decision to leave for one football season and leave that revenue on the table.

Agreed on both.

Any rumors about still playing are just to make fans think there might still be a chance. Kinda cruel to fuel false hope in the real hard core fans, IMO.

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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2020, 08:56:28 AM »

It's not happening.  Rumor is that the presidents have let Nebraska know that they would have to leave the conference for that to happen.  The B10 doesn't have an exit fee, but controls their media rights.

It would be a really dumb decision to leave for one football season and leave that revenue on the table.

We are taking about Nebraska
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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2020, 09:24:55 AM »
Any threats to leave is just pandering to the COVID deniers in their fanbase....and trying to make the conference look like the bad guy instead of the school
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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2020, 10:01:15 AM »
Any threats to leave is just pandering to the COVID deniers in their fanbase....and trying to make the conference look like the bad guy instead of the school

Yup. This, exactly this.

Spin and nothing more.

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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2020, 11:23:16 AM »
We are taking about Nebraska

Nebraska fans would be happy since they've been mediocre since joining the Big Ten and they miss their rivalries with Oklahoma and Texas. That said, money talks and the Nebraska administration says the additional $13 million to $17 million in TV revenue they receive for being in the Big Ten is what matters in the end.
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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2020, 12:02:25 PM »
Nebraska fans would be happy since they've been mediocre since joining the Big Ten and they miss their rivalries with Oklahoma and Texas. That said, money talks and the Nebraska administration says the additional $13 million to $17 million in TV revenue they receive for being in the Big Ten is what matters in the end.

Yup.  The fan base spent a decade bemoaning unfair advantages for Texas football and left for the cash of the Big Ten.  The product on the field has been mediocre at best since as they grasp at a relevancy of a time long since past.  They have no natural recruiting grounds and kids from Florida, California and Texas are going to red a heck of a reason to go to Lincoln for 3-4 years. 

Tom Osborne was a great coach who had offenses that could outmuscle you and execute flawlessly (see: Wisconsin).  They also certainly used performance enhancers in a time where testing was lax.  Those days are gone.  All schools have great strength programs and their offense isn’t anything special anymore.  The ceiling for Nebraska is Wisconsin
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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2020, 12:55:55 PM »
SPORTS, SPORTS, AND MORE SPORTS.
Get a job, a real JOB.
Grow up.
Yes, the world has changed, the Roman Colosseum is no more, just like the 6th century A.D., it's over folks.
When our industrial base was exported they had to come up with make work for millions of people, perhaps tens of millions.
So they created travel, entertainment, and sports.The circus and the Ring Master have seen their day.    Here we are the end of the world as we knew it.

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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2020, 12:56:59 PM »
SPORTS, SPORTS, AND MORE SPORTS.
Get a job, a real JOB.
Grow up.
Yes, the world has changed, the Roman Colosseum is no more, just like the 6th century A.D., it's over folks.
When our industrial base was exported they had to come up with make work for millions of people, perhaps tens of millions.
So they created travel, entertainment, and sports.The circus and the Ring Master have seen their day.    Here we are the end of the world as we knew it.



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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2020, 01:43:20 PM »
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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2020, 03:33:44 PM »
 Sh yes. It is always great to have sports become highly, highly politicized. The country is turning into slack jawed hairy wet cats.

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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2020, 04:23:19 PM »
The country is turning into slack jawed hairy wet cats.
If memory serves me correct, this was a very close second place mascot to the Golden Eagle. ;D

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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2020, 09:51:07 PM »
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Source: B1G officials just met. Ohio State, Nebraska, Iowa and Michigan are set on playing this fall. Illinois and Northwestern are only schools that are not thinking about playing.  If Big Ten doesn’t have football, teams will be allowed to join other leagues.
The White House was also involved in the meeting today, pressing the Big Ten to play.


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Main reason for the call btw was that Ohio State and Nebraska will play elsewhere if the B1G does not have a season


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-Iowa, Michigan & Nebraska are talking joining Big 12 seriously

-Ohio State if it plays anywhere else will be in the ACC. Big reason for this is to schedule home game vs. Notre Dame in the fall

-No B1G teams will play in SEC

-Conference call tomorrow at 3 pm to finalize plans
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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2020, 10:47:12 PM »
Oklahoma players already sick.

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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2020, 10:48:15 PM »
Oklahoma players already sick.


Perfect. Open spot in the Big 12.

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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2020, 11:06:58 PM »
Sh yes. It is always great to have sports become highly, highly politicized. The country is turning into slack jawed hairy wet cats.

BUT, with much less chronic traumatic encephalopathy.
Personally, I no longer find it amusing to see young men become maimed.

But, if others enjoy high risk sport as entertainment then why not play Russian Roulette with COVID as well.   

Don't see what is political about my comments, it is just ethics, morals and science.

BTW, I've been doing a little research on Lacrosse injuries and find that sport is more dangerous than I knew.   The realignment of university sports budgets may end a lot of sports.

I have supported Division 3 football and find that most colleges have canceled the season. 

My progression from a football fan to a football objector has taken 20+ years.  I was once a Greenbay season ticket holder, at Milwaukee County Stadium, not Greenbay. 

I know a few young men who suffered concussions playing division 3 football, first rate colleges, STEM majors.   I feel very sad for them and their families.  No politics involved.
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Re: Is a tectonic change coming to college sports?
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2020, 11:24:19 PM »
As long as the athletes on scholarship are able to complete their educations, are games that important?  It’s certainly not an essential activity and all the focus should be on them achieving academic excellence.  It’s not-athlete student, it’s student athlete
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