President Lovell’s son withdraws from MU after posting racist, sexist remarks

[real chili 83]

So, why is fighting Irish ok these days???????

[Hards Alumni]

So, why is fighting Irish ok these days???????

It isn't.

[Galway Eagle]

So, why is fighting Irish ok these days???????

Been saying that for years. If a bunch of idiotic Irish Americans around the country stopped taking pride in it and realized it was a mocking mascot initially maybe thered eventually be enough traction to change it.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So, why is fighting Irish ok these days???????

Well, nothing about ND is okay. It's all terrible.

But serious answer: Its okay for the same reason why UNC Pembroke (a traditional native american serving institution) being the Braves is okay. There is a difference between someone using something from their own culture as a mascot and someone using someone else's culture as a mascot. Notre Dame was an Irish serving institution back when Irish were considered minorities and to this day a large % of their students claim Irish heritage.

[GooooMarquette]

Well, nothing about ND is okay. It's all terrible.

But serious answer: Its okay for the same reason why UNC Pembroke (a traditional native american serving institution) being the Braves is okay. There is a difference between someone using something from their own culture as a mascot and someone using someone else's culture as a mascot. Notre Dame was an Irish serving institution back when Irish were considered minorities and to this day a large % of their students claim Irish heritage.

I have ancestors from all parts of Great Britain - mostly England and Scotland.

If we can get a few others, maybe we could petition the BOT to change our nickname to the Brawlin' Brits.

[real chili 83]

Well, nothing about ND is okay. It's all terrible.

But serious answer: Its okay for the same reason why UNC Pembroke (a traditional native american serving institution) being the Braves is okay. There is a difference between someone using something from their own culture as a mascot and someone using someone else's culture as a mascot. Notre Dame was an Irish serving institution back when Irish were considered minorities and to this day a large % of their students claim Irish heritage.

ND sucks

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

ND sucks

Indeed. That's the only important point of this conversation

[vogue65]

So, why is fighting Irish ok these days???????

Because the original Fighting Irish is the fighting 69th infantry regiment.  The name was given by Robert E. Lee during the Civil War.  The regiment leads the NYC St. Patrick's Day Parade with their mascot, an Irish Wolfhound.

Then along comes some school in nowheresville Indiana with a football team of mostly Polish coal miners.

The NYC subway alumni become big fans and name the team the Fighting Irish, a name familiar to their NYC Irish heritage.

Believe what you want but my facts are correct and I'm sticking to them.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Because the original Fighting Irish is the fighting 69th infantry regiment.  The name was given by Robert E. Lee during the Civil War.  The regiment leads the NYC St. Patrics day parade with their mascot, an Irish Wolfhound.

Then along comes some school in nowheresville Indiana with a football team of mostly Polish coal miners.

The NYC subway alumni become big fans and name the team the Fighting Irish, a name familiar to their NYC Irish heritage.

Believe what you want but my facts are correct and I'm sticking to them.

Robert E Lee owned slaves, therefore Fighting Irish is racist.

[wadesworld]

  that's weird cuz the word around here is you are good with skin flutes

Oh hey look, a gay joke. Those are always very funny!

Stay classy.

[vogue65]

Robert E Lee owned slaves, therefore Fighting Irish is racist.

I can go with that.

[rocket surgeon]

Oh hey look, a gay joke. Those are always very funny!

Stay classy.

it's not a joke

[The Sultan]

  that's weird cuz the word around here is you are good with skin flutes

Damn. That would have stung back in middle school.

[jesmu84]

it's not a joke

Are you honestly still confused why people might have a negative opinion of you based on your posts here?

[wadesworld]

Are you honestly still confused why people might have a negative opinion of you based on your posts here?

Definitely the least racist, least homophobic, least sexist poster on Scoop. How anyone could think otherwise is baffling.

[vogue65]

The NYPD union just endorced Trump.  Sounds political to me.  Not suprising as there are so many Fighting Irish on the force.  Amazing how far the Fighting Irish of New York have come.

[tower912]

Scripture readings today we're about acceptance of 'the other'.   About judging people by their actions, not by their otherness.

[Billy Hoyle]

Because the original Fighting Irish is the fighting 69th infantry regiment.  The name was given by Robert E. Lee during the Civil War.  The regiment leads the NYC St. Patrick's Day Parade with their mascot, an Irish Wolfhound.

Then along comes some school in nowheresville Indiana with a football team of mostly Polish coal miners.

The NYC subway alumni become big fans and name the team the Fighting Irish, a name familiar to their NYC Irish heritage.

Believe what you want but my facts are correct and I'm sticking to them.

https://www.irishpost.com/news/notre-dame-university-defends-use-of-fighting-irish-nickname-and-leprechaun-mascot-189481

"One reported use of the phrase came in 1899 when Northwestern University students chanted, "Kill the fighting Irish" during a football game. At the time, anti-Catholicism and anti-immigrant sentiments were openly expressed in the United States and, since Notre Dame was largely populated by ethnic Catholics – mostly Irish, but also Germans, Italians and Poles – the University was a natural target for ethnic slurs. 

"When the Notre Dame football team gained national prominence in the first three decades of the 20th century, journalists of the day, especially New York Daily News columnist Francis Wallace, a Notre Dame alumnus, began to popularize the "fighting Irish" tag in their stories. 

"Soon, Notre Dame supporters took it up, turning what once was an epithet into an "in-your-face" expression of triumph. The University had no official nickname at the time, but as Fighting Irish, Catholics and Ramblers were variously applied to it in the press and public, Notre Dame's president, Father Matthew Walsh (an Irishman), officially adopted Fighting Irish in 1927."

[Billy Hoyle]

Well, nothing about ND is okay. It's all terrible.

But serious answer: Its okay for the same reason why UNC Pembroke (a traditional native american serving institution) being the Braves is okay. There is a difference between someone using something from their own culture as a mascot and someone using someone else's culture as a mascot. Notre Dame was an Irish serving institution back when Irish were considered minorities and to this day a large % of their students claim Irish heritage.

Yep. And, it has the largest Irish Language Program outside of Ireland and 15 of their 17 presidents have been of Irish decent.  The name wasn't adopted due to cultural appropriation, it was the result of Irish pride.

[rocket surgeon]

Definitely the least racist, least homophobic, least sexist poster on Scoop. How anyone could think otherwise is baffling.

  you're the one with the most divisive, hateful and racist name on scoop...ALM if you really are a christian

[LON]

it's not a joke

You haven't been worth the effort for a long time now.

[LON]

  you're the one with the most divisive, hateful and racist name on scoop...ALM if you really are a christian

You trying to say you're a good Christian is just delicious.

[The Sultan]

  you're the one with the most divisive, hateful and racist name on scoop...ALM if you really are a christian

When has he proclaimed himself to be a Christian?

[Pakuni]

  you're the one with the most divisive, hateful and racist name on scoop...ALM if you really are a christian

Jesus must have been a bad Christian, what with all his "blessed are the poor" and "rich won't enter the kingdom of heaven" stuff, huh?

[4everwarriors]

Outside of Fahrenheit 451, I don't no if any y'all rippers went ta church today?