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HutchwasClutch

Only NBA player thus far to stand to show honor and respect for our country and our flag. 

God bless you Jonathan.  You have my forever admiration.

Jockey


TAMU, Knower of Ball

I fully support his right to stand. I also fully support his colleagues decisions to kneel. Freedom of speech is the best part about our country.

I do wonder if we'll hear the same arguments that were made against Kaepernick about this being a job and your job is not a place to to take a stand but to follow the direction of your employer. My guess is that we won't.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Babybluejeans

Haha. His explanation had nothing to do with "flag and country."

tower912

#4
Good for him.   I applaud him exercising his first amendment rights to peacefully stand apart.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

jesmu84

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on July 31, 2020, 11:28:22 PM
Only NBA player thus far to stand to show honor and respect for our country and our flag. 

God bless you Jonathan.  You have my forever admiration.

How do you feel about flag code?

Pakuni


TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Pakuni on August 01, 2020, 05:51:06 AM
"My purposes in it really had nothing to do with the flag," Isaac said.

https://theathletic.com/1966742/2020/07/31/jonathan-isaac-stands-during-anthem/
LOL.

Wrap that flag around yourself just a little tighter, Hutch.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

D'Lo Brown

Can't we at least go back to how it used to be not that long ago, where the players were in the locker room or literally doing whatever during the anthem. I'm not even asking for what they do in most all other countries, which is to not turn every sporting event (little league up to pro sports) into the Olympics. What is the need for patting our own backs during sports. Why do we need this

HutchwasClutch

A country's anthem is meaningless unless to demonstrate one's honor for that country.  So whether his intention was to honor the flag, that's what his choosing stand for it accomplished. A nation's flag is a symbol of that country.  A person's actions when a country's anthem is played signifies what's in their heart, mind, and soul, good or bad. 

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: TSmith34 on August 01, 2020, 09:25:36 AM
LOL.

Wrap that flag around yourself just a little tighter, Hutch.

Mocking someone else's love of country. Character revealed. Not that it wasn't already obvious.

jesmu84

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on August 01, 2020, 10:14:08 AM
A country's anthem is meaningless unless to demonstrate one's honor for that country.  So whether his intention was to honor the flag, that's what his choosing stand for it accomplished. A nation's flag is a symbol of that country.  A person's actions when a country's anthem is played signifies what's in their heart, mind, and soul, good or bad.

How do you feel about the flag code?

Galway Eagle

There's way to much nationalism in this country. Why we feel the need to beat our chests whenever we can to scream "America's no 1!" When we aren't leaps and bounds better than most the westernized world is beyond me.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on August 01, 2020, 10:16:03 AM
Mocking someone else's love of country. Character revealed. Not that it wasn't already obvious.
Loving the country is fine, wrapping yourself up in the flag as a shield is something else altogether.  And then pretending a player was protesting in support of the flag when he specifically said he was not? LOL.

"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag."
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Pakuni

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on August 01, 2020, 10:16:03 AM
Mocking someone else's love of country. Character revealed. Not that it wasn't already obvious.

What does claiming to love America while demanding others not exercise its most revered freedoms say about one's character?

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Pakuni on August 01, 2020, 10:41:27 AM
What does claiming to love America while demanding others not exercise its most revered freedoms say about one's character?

Where have I remotely demanded anyone not be permitted to exercise their rights?  Nowhere. 

I have an opinion about anthem kneelers.  I have quite a ways to travel to get to a demand.

But you're just being obtuse to get your gotcha on me.






Pakuni

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on August 01, 2020, 10:58:34 AM
Where have I remotely demanded anyone not be permitted to exercise their rights?  Nowhere. 

I have an opinion about anthem kneelers.  I have quite a ways to travel to get to a demand.

But you're just being obtuse to get your gotcha on me.

Kinda arrogant to assume I was referring to you.
Think of someone a little better known.

The Sultan

The Constitution is way more important than a flag or a national anthem. Too bad too many are fixated on the last two instead of the first one.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on August 01, 2020, 10:14:08 AM
A person's actions when a country's anthem is played signifies what's in their heart, mind, and soul, good or bad. 

I mean OK. But what f they aren't happy with the country as a whole?  They aren't allowed to express that dissatisfaction?

And how does their feelings about the country impact you in any meaningful way? 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

Frankly, I have no interest in actors and actresses, athletes, and anyone else who feels their unsolicited opinion needs to be heard, pontificating and dominating the media. I do what I can do to oppose such behavior. Namely, I hit them in the pocketbook, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

jesmu84

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 01, 2020, 12:10:38 PM
Frankly, I have no interest in actors and actresses, athletes, and anyone else who feels their unsolicited opinion needs to be heard, pontificating and dominating the media. I do what I can do to oppose such behavior. Namely, I hit them in the pocketbook, hey?

Stay in your lane, doc

BM1090

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 01, 2020, 12:10:38 PM
Frankly, I have no interest in actors and actresses, athletes, and anyone else who feels their unsolicited opinion needs to be heard, pontificating and dominating the media. I do what I can do to oppose such behavior. Namely, I hit them in the pocketbook, hey?

Thank you for your unsolicited opinion.

The Sultan

Quote from: BM1090 on August 01, 2020, 12:51:35 PM
Thank you for your unsolicited opinion.

He's on topic on a message board. Hardly said anything outlandish.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Warriors4ever

Why on earth are we singing the national anthem before every sporting event in the first place?

GB Warrior

We need to unify around the realization that our national anthem sucks

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