2020-21 College Football Thread

[Mr. Nielsen]

Rose Bowl CFP Semi Final moving to Dallas.

[jesmu84]

Rose Bowl CFP Semi Final moving to Dallas.

Sounds very political

[The Sultan]

Rose Bowl CFP Semi Final moving to Dallas.

Because their parents can't be there?  Is this a middle school track meet?

[PGsHeroes32]

ND made it.


Bama by 30

[JWags85]

ND made it.


Bama by 30

ND was locked in once they beat Clemson and then didn't trip in their only other challenge against UNC. But I don't think anyone thinks they are a contender anymore. Ian Book will be seeing ghosts in a hurry and ND won't be able to stop Harris or Smith and ND fans can go home with 3rd not even competitive participation medal in the BK era

[GooooMarquette]

3-5 Nebraska 'opts out' of bowls.

Uhhhh, OK...🤣

[CreightonWarrior]

3-5 Nebraska 'opts out' of bowls.

Uhhhh, OK...🤣

Wonder if the players' parents will sue so they can play.

[GooooMarquette]

Wonder if the players' parents will sue so they can play.

Yep. Nebraska was the loudest whiner when the B10 originally canceled the season, yet now they 'opt out' of a theoretical chance for one more game. "Let them play," huh?

It's basically irrelevant though, since no bowl would want a 3-5 team that didn't beat a single team with a winning record.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Nothing like these bowl tie in per conference. Army gets screwed, while Tennessee and South Carolina will be in a bowl game.

[MU82]

ND made it.


Bama by 30

Bama opens as 19.5-point favorite. That's a lot of effen points! I know I couldn't bet it; I mean, a team could totally dominate, have a 27-0 lead, but then give up a TD and 2-pt conversion with 30 seconds to go and only win by 19.

But I do think Bama will win going away.

[Hards Alumni]

That's fair. Dropping just far enough for the Bears to pick him up at 14.

He'll be around then, but they'll probably trade up to #2 to get him.   

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Me thinks Fitz is on the move this offseason.

[GooooMarquette]

Me thinks Fitz is on the move this offseason.

Da Bears?

[MU82]

Instead of preparing for Texas A&M, North Carolina's leading tackler, leading rusher and leading receiver will instead start getting ready for the NFL Draft.

Linebacker Chazz Surratt, running back Michael Carter and wide receiver Dyami Brown all announced Monday over social media that their college football careers will end short of appearing with the Tar Heels in the Orange Bowl. Surratt and Carter were both seniors; Brown was a junior.

I think doing this just about always makes sense. And this year, it makes more sense than ever. Good for them. I wish them long, lucrative pro careers.

[The Big East]

Here's the challenge Collège Football has. Once upon a time, it was about rivalries and about fellowship among nearby schools. Notre Dame and Michigan, for example, got together for some football, allowing the alumni of the two schools to come together, talk some trash, drink and have some bratwurst in the parking lot before going inside.

Same for Texas A&M/Texas, Arkansas and Oklahoma or Texas, etc.

Now, it's about programming and national visibility. And, when Texas makes its decision about where it wants to go, if anywhere, it's about the Texas brand and little else. Go to the SEC IF Texas will benefit by better recruiting and stronger financials. It's a bonus that they'll hope to regularly play Alabama.

The fact that the A&M rivalry would be restored would be tangential to the decision. Sure, Texas would sell that in its decision, but it's at best a tertiary factor to dollars and recruiting.

If Texas were to join the Big 10, it would be about enhancing the BIG brand. One would hope if they did, the school would bring along Oklahoma State and Oklahoma and maybe even Iowa State. The four of them would be a nice get for the BIG because of their historical rivalries and the chance to see new rivalries emerge.

But even that is far secondary to the Texas and BIG brand.

What's interesting to conjecture is what happens to a couple of historically interesting Big 8/12 whatever programs. Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, the Oklahomas and West Virginia all would need a home. Absent abandoning football (which Kansas should do) and joining the BEast, the best these guys could hope for is the AAC. I would imagine Iowa State could fit in the BIG nicely (if Iowa didn't scream) but the rest of them bring relatively little dollar wise.

You are spot on the description of how things used to be. In the glory days of College Football, teams were only allowed on TV twice a year. So to see your team play you had to go the game.  The local rivalries were covered in depth by Sports Illustrated and The local press . As such there was a great build up to the games. Even games that had no meaning at the end of the season were very well attended.

Another changing event was the cap on scholarships. In the glory days most conferences had a couple of strong teams, one or two medium and the rest fought for the scraps . Now the talent is dispersed and every one can now be seen on TV. 

So it really all comes down to coaching no matter where you are at.  In addition to the head coach, College Football requires a lot of high talented offensive and defensive coordinators and position coaches. When I look at Texas they are probably best staying where they are at and  building their program into a consistent challenger for their conference title. That is the best way to build their Longhorn Brand.

[shoothoops]

Bryan Harsin from Boise St. is the new Auburn Head Coach.

So, Auburn fires a former Arkansas State Head Coach. Then they pass on hiring a different former Arkansas State Head Coach. Ultimately, they hire yet a different former Arkansas State Head Coach. Somewhere a former assistant Arkansas State Head Coach to both the new and recently dismissed Head Coach, and current fellow SEC Head Coach, nods.

[The Sultan]

You are spot on the description of how things used to be. In the glory days of College Football, teams were only allowed on TV twice a year. So to see your team play you had to go the game.  The local rivalries were covered in depth by Sports Illustrated and The local press . As such there was a great build up to the games. Even games that had no meaning at the end of the season were very well attended.

Sorry but college football games were not very well attended back in this time you are labeling the "glory days."  Attendance peaked in about 2014 or so and has been declining since. But it was way more than in the 70s or 80s.

[Billy Hoyle]

Sorry but college football games were not very well attended back in this time you are labeling the "glory days."  Attendance peaked in about 2014 or so and has been declining since. But it was way more than in the 70s or 80s.

Stadiums are significantly larger now. Neyland Stadium by over 27K since the 70's, Beaver Stadium is up 50K since the start if the 70's, the Shoe over 20K, Jordan Hare up 37K, even the Big House has even expanded.

[shoothoops]

New England QB Coach Jedd Fisch is the new U of Arizona Head Coach. (Good friends w/UA President Robert Robbins) San Jose St.'s Brent Brennan runner up.

[The Sultan]

New England QB Coach Jedd Fisch is the new U of Arizona Head Coach. (Good friends w/UA President Robert Robbins) San Jose St.'s Brent Brennan runner up.

Fisch hire is interesting. Been a lot of places but not for long and not very successful.

[Billy Hoyle]

New England QB Coach Jedd Fisch is the new U of Arizona Head Coach. (Good friends w/UA President Robert Robbins) San Jose St.'s Brent Brennan runner up.

You mean after Brennan turned them down.

[shoothoops]

Fisch hire is interesting. Been a lot of places but not for long and not very successful.

Trying to restore the glory of Pop McKale during the days of the Helsinki Episode of 1919. And I think we all remember how that turned out.

[JWags85]

You mean after Brennan turned them down.

That was my thought as well.  He's losing the majority of his offense to graduation at SJSU, so you'd think he'd be ready to move.  But if he was willing, no way you'd think that U of A would choose a journeyman over that.

Like Fluffy said, he's worked in a lot of decent places with good football people, but not super successful.

I've seen a number of people up in arms about Antonio Pierce not getting the job, playing the white privilege card. But all that conveniently ignores his major lack of college coaching experience and he's never even been a stand alone coordinator.

[Billy Hoyle]

That was my thought as well.  He's losing the majority of his offense to graduation at SJSU, so you'd think he'd be ready to move.  But if he was willing, no way you'd think that U of A would choose a journeyman over that.

Like Fluffy said, he's worked in a lot of decent places with good football people, but not super successful.

I've seen a number of people up in arms about Antonio Pierce not getting the job, playing the white privilege card. But all that conveniently ignores his major lack of college coaching experience and he's never even been a stand alone coordinator.

He knows he could do better than UA, which is a bottom 4 job in the PAC 12 (OSU, WSU, Cal).

[shoothoops]

You mean after Brennan turned them down.

Source? Link? Many reputable people both inside and outside of U of A have said otherwise.

Fisch was also a candidate for the Arizona job when Sumlin was hired instead. (He's also been in the mix for other openings as well) It is being reported that this was a Robert Robbins hire based on his personal relationship with Fisch.

Many U of A boosters, alums, fans, wanted Brennan. There are even reports that Arizona AD Dave Heeke preferred Brennan. Brennan has many ties with Arizona. He worked with Dick Tomey both there and San Jose St. He also worked with former Arizona Defensive Coordinator Rich Ellerson at Cal Poly. Brennan's brother Brad played for Tomey at Arizona. He spoke at Tomey's Memorial Service this past year.

If you have different information, I would certainly take a look at it.