2020-21 College Football Thread

[wadesworld]

Brian Kelly threatening to skip the CFP if families of players aren't allowed to attend.  Is this him worrying about families, or putting the lives of humans at risk for football again?  Or is it him just not wanting to lose by about 40 in another CFP semifinal?

[MUBurrow]

Brian Kelly threatening to skip the CFP if families of players aren't allowed to attend.  Is this him worrying about families, or putting the lives of humans at risk for football again?  Or is it him just not wanting to lose by about 40 in another CFP semifinal?

He's killed before, and once they get the taste for human blood...

[GooooMarquette]

Brian Kelly threatening to skip the CFP if families of players aren't allowed to attend.  Is this him worrying about families, or putting the lives of humans at risk for football again?  Or is it him just not wanting to lose by about 40 in another CFP semifinal?

After they lose by 40 tomorrow, it might not be an issue....

[wadesworld]

After they lose by 40 tomorrow, it might not be an issue....

Think they'd still be in.

Also, will Lance Leipold get the Illinois job?  I think you could certainly do worse.

[The Sultan]

Notre Dame will be in regardless.  But if they get crushed, and they whine about no family, then the CFP should just take A&M.

Illinois interviewed Leipold and Beilema this week.  Rumor is they are also looking at Dave Clawson (Wake) and Todd Monken (Army).  If I were a betting man, I would guess Leipold is announced there sometime this weekend after the MAC Championship Game tonight.  (I don't know anything.)

[JWags85]

Brian Kelly threatening to skip the CFP if families of players aren't allowed to attend.  Is this him worrying about families, or putting the lives of humans at risk for football again?  Or is it him just not wanting to lose by about 40 in another CFP semifinal?

I find it hilarious that BK is feigning concern for anyone other than himself, which flies directly in the face of his background and behavior his entire career. I have a friend that played for him at Cincy (inherited, as he was recruited and signed by Dantonio) and he basically said he was a very good coach but an abysmal human that had very little relationship with his players and nobody was sad when he left.

I also saw people saying Clemson-ND was that a**hole bowl and saying Dabo hasn't killed anyone *YET* and linked some COVID article which was eye roll worthy.

Notre Dame will be in regardless.  But if they get crushed, and they whine about no family, then the CFP should just take A&M.

Illinois interviewed Leipold and Beilema this week.  Rumor is they are also looking at Dave Clawson (Wake) and Todd Monken (Army).  If I were a betting man, I would guess Leipold is announced there sometime this weekend after the MAC Championship Game tonight.  (I don't know anything.)

Clawson is actually a really solid option. Dude won at multiple levels, did well at a dump which is BG, and while he's not been stellar at Wake, that's a near impossible place to win with absolutely no history. 

[The Sultan]

Looks like Illinois is going with Beilema.

[Pakuni]

Looks like Illinois is going with Beilema.

Not the most exciting hire, but hey could and have done much worse.

[The Sultan]

I could see how it would work.  He knows the Big Ten, he has an engaging personality and can recruit well. 

But in his best years at Wisconsin, he had Paul Chryst as his offensive coordinator and Dave Doeren (current NC State head coach) as his defensive coordinator.  And even when Doeren left, he hired Chris Ash as his DC.  So how much was their success due to him, or due to his staff?

At Arkansas, he never got the staff right.  And while he looked like he was just about there at times, playing Alabama, Auburn and LSU every year was a hard thing to overcome.  (And it will be hard for Arkansas to overcome for a long time.)  Part of this was because he didn't pull a bunch of his staff from Wisconsin to Arkansas.  Word is, that he's not the most likeable guy and burned a lot of bridges both at UW and Arkansas.

This is probably why some of the Illinois AD's statements about him being a "lifelong learner" struck me as interesting.  I think the AD knows some of this, and pressed it during his interview.  Which is a good thing.  We will see where it goes.

[Uncle Rico]

I could see how it would work.  He knows the Big Ten, he has an engaging personality and can recruit well. 

But in his best years at Wisconsin, he had Paul Chryst as his offensive coordinator and Dave Doeren (current NC State head coach) as his defensive coordinator.  And even when Doeren left, he hired Chris Ash as his DC.  So how much was their success due to him, or due to his staff?

At Arkansas, he never got the staff right.  And while he looked like he was just about there at times, playing Alabama, Auburn and LSU every year was a hard thing to overcome.  (And it will be hard for Arkansas to overcome for a long time.)  Part of this was because he didn't pull a bunch of his staff from Wisconsin to Arkansas.  Word is, that he's not the most likeable guy and burned a lot of bridges both at UW and Arkansas.

This is probably why some of the Illinois AD's statements about him being a "lifelong learner" struck me as interesting.  I think the AD knows some of this, and pressed it during his interview.  Which is a good thing.  We will see where it goes.

I'm excited for the same people that spent years telling me what a great coach he was now telling me he was never that good all over again

[Billy Hoyle]

Looks like Illinois is going with Beilema.

Does he still have his Vegas stripper wife? 

I still can't believe that meathead hooked up with Erin Andrews.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Cmon Cats, finish the job...

[lawdog77]

I still can't believe that meathead hooked up with Erin Andrew's.

Who is Erin Andrew, and with what part of her did he hook up?

[Dish]

I've done a 180 on Justin Fields. I have major concerns about him at the next level. I've watched most of their games this year, and I don't think I could invest a top 10 pick in him. I think he has a high ceiling, but he's made more than one games worth of poor decision making.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I've done a 180 on Justin Fields. I have major concerns about him at the next level. I've watched most of their games this year, and I don't think I could invest a top 10 pick in him. I think he has a high ceiling, but he's made more than one games worth of poor decision making.

In fairness, Northwestern's secondary may be the best in the country.

[Dish]

In fairness, Northwestern's secondary may be the best in the country.

I'm talking totality of this season. He has moments that are outstanding, but way too many times I've watched him this year and came away uninspired.

[GooooMarquette]

In fairness, Northwestern's secondary may be the best in the country.

But Dish noted that Fields has had 'more than one game' where his decisionmaking was suspect. One game against NU? No big deal. But an emerging pattern? Big deal.

[PGsHeroes32]

Cmon Cats, finish the job...

They gonna need to start tackling Sermon before he gets 15 yards.

[MU82]

I've done a 180 on Justin Fields. I have major concerns about him at the next level. I've watched most of their games this year, and I don't think I could invest a top 10 pick in him. I think he has a high ceiling, but he's made more than one games worth of poor decision making.

I will go on the record to say I absolutely do not want the Panthers to draft him if he's available.

In fairness, Northwestern's secondary may be the best in the country.

You know who has secondaries even better than Northwestern's? Every NFL team.

But Dish noted that Fields has had 'more than one game' where his decisionmaking was suspect. One game against NU? No big deal. But an emerging pattern? Big deal.

Yep. Hard pass.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I'm talking totality of this season. He has moments that are outstanding, but way too many times I've watched him this year and came away uninspired.

That's fair. Dropping just far enough for the Bears to pick him up at 14.

[Dish]

I think Fields would have to have a red shirt year his rookie season. He'd have to go to a team with a good coordinator and QB coach. I don't think he sucks or anything like that, but how he sees the field, his decision making, the speed of defenses in the NFL will hurt his passing game.

He's athletic, has good running vision, I like his arm, but if I'm a GM holding a top 10 pick, I don't know if I could take Fields. Especially with a fairly loaded offensive group of talent in round 1 next year.

[The Sultan]

I would put A&M in the CFP before OSU. It won't happen I know.

Unless Northwestern makes a comeback here, A&M has to hope for a Clemson loss.

[PGsHeroes32]

They gonna need to start tackling Sermon before he gets 15 yards.

And thats the end of that

[JWags85]

Does he still have his Vegas stripper wife? 

I still can't believe that meathead hooked up with Erin Andrew's.

No no, she's just a generic Florida bimbo he met in Vegas. PJ Fleck is the one who married a stripper, a Kalamazoo stripper nonetheless.

And I'm nearly positive Wisconsin fans started that EA rumor to make Bielema seem like anything but the bloated lush gaming on every girl on State St he was.  No way the dude with his off the field antics and profile was wooing EA at the height of her fame when every athlete was shooting their shot.

But Dish noted that Fields has had 'more than one game' where his decisionmaking was suspect. One game against NU? No big deal. But an emerging pattern? Big deal.

Agreed. For lack of a better phrase, Fields needs to be humbled. He's too confident in his arm and superior athleticism. And that's not the "confidence" you want in a QB. It's the arrogance that leads to picks and bad decisions time and time again.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Easy cover at least