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GooooMarquette

Quote from: BLM on December 13, 2020, 02:06:33 PM
Also, if I have a daughter who one day shows an interest in football, is it okay for me to point to Sarah Fuller as an inspiration for her now that she's scored some points and didn't just have a ''gimmick squib kick that anyone on the team could've done and that took no preparation for?"  Or do I have to wait for someone to make more than a simple extra point?


You're good.

I texted my 24-year old daughter as soon as I saw the stories - first that she was playing at all, and then yesterday when she hit the XP. She was thrilled that a young woman accomplished this.

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on December 13, 2020, 03:41:36 PM
T Boone dying probably has something to do with it. When he was alive, he was the end all be all with OK St sports. If he liked Gundy, which he did, then nobody was going to move him.

I will say this...if people are tired of Gundy's personality or outspoken persona, fair enough. But if it's purely a football decision, it's probably quite stupid. People don't realize how TERRIBLE OK St football is historically. Gundy has the only outright Big 12 (or Big 8) title in program history.  They hadn't sniffed top 10 rankings or major bowls since the early/mid 80s when they had Thurman Thomas and Barry Sanders. Hell, Les Miles didn't even have top 25 squads there before he left for LSU.  Gundy is far from perfect, but what he's done there football wise is pretty remarkable in the grand scheme of things. It's far more likely they fall back into near irrelevance than take the next step if they move on from him. Even with money, I don't know who is going to clamor for a job that is MAYBE 5th at best in the B12

Gundy might want to move on to a program like Auburn at this point too.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 13, 2020, 04:21:29 PM
Gundy might want to move on to a program like Auburn at this point too.

Fair point as well. People associate him so strongly with OSU at this point, but people looking for a coach could do FAR worse. I think he'd probably do quite well at a traditional power

MUBurrow

Quote from: JWags85 on December 13, 2020, 05:00:51 PM
Fair point as well. People associate him so strongly with OSU at this point, but people looking for a coach could do FAR worse. I think he'd probably do quite well at a traditional power

The more I think about it, he's already kind of a composite character of SEC coaches. If you cast a spell over a pot containing parts of Lane Kiffin, Bret Bielema and Mike Leach, Gundy would pop out.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: BLM on December 13, 2020, 02:06:33 PM
Also, if I have a daughter who one day shows an interest in football, is it okay for me to point to Sarah Fuller as an inspiration for her now that she's scored some points and didn't just have a ''gimmick squib kick that anyone on the team could've done and that took no preparation for?"  Or do I have to wait for someone to make more than a simple extra point?

A young woman had already accomplished it, twice, and she has to overcome being raped by a teammate and belittled by a new coach, both of which caused her to have to transfer to a new school. I don't understand why Katie Hnida has been relegated to the dust bin of history here.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

wadesworld

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 13, 2020, 05:29:59 PM
A young woman had already accomplished it, twice, and she has to overcome being raped by a teammate and belittled by a new coach, both of which caused her to have to transfer to a new school. I don't understand why Katie Hnida has been relegated to the dust bin of history here.

So in a word, the answer is "No." thank you for clarifying. I will not celebrate Fuller.

Billy Hoyle

#656
Quote from: BLM on December 13, 2020, 05:34:04 PM
So in a word, the answer is "No." thank you for clarifying. I will not celebrate Fuller.

I didn't say you shouldn't "celebrate" her (classic woke all or nothing response) but don't ignore a true trailblazer who had to overcome truly horrific obstacles.

https://deadspin.com/talking-about-sarah-fuller-as-a-first-avoids-the-unco-1845872824
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

wadesworld

#657

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 13, 2020, 05:36:32 PM
I didn't say you shouldn't "celebrate" her (classic woke all or nothing response) but don't ignore a true trailblazer who had to overcome truly horrific obstacles.

https://deadspin.com/talking-about-sarah-fuller-as-a-first-avoids-the-unco-1845872824

What is "woke" about celebrating the first female to score points in a Power 5 NCAA Football game? Seems like you're the "woke" one with your "what about...?"

Congratulations to Sarah Fuller. An awesome accomplishment. Just as was kicking off last weekend.

If there was an MUScoop when I was in 6th grade, I might've even celebrated Katie Hnida (phone originally autocorrected that to "Honda") then.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: BLM on December 13, 2020, 05:51:30 PM

Congratulations to Sarah Fuller. An awesome accomplishment. Just as was kicking off last weekend.

If there was an MUScoop when I was in 6th grade, I might've even celebrated Katie Honda then.



This. No reason we can't celebrate both.

MU82

Lovie Smith gets the heave-ho from U of Urbana.

Looks like buyout was a little more than $2M. A "bargain" in this day and age.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

shoothoops

The cat is now out of the bag at Vandy. Clark Lea will be named their new head coach shortly.

shoothoops

Quote from: shoothoops on December 14, 2020, 10:23:35 AM
The cat is now out of the bag at Vandy. Clark Lea will be named their new head coach shortly.

Lea was Vandy's first interview. While many were considered, Lea, Chadwell, Healy, and Leipold were their top four candidates. Lea and Leipold were the final two.

Clark Lea is from Nashville, has family there, played baseball at Belmont, and, played football at Vandy. He was endorsed by a who's who of Vandy people, his friend and Vandy baseball coach Tim Corbin, recently retired 20 year VU SID Larry Leathers, and several others. The expectation is that he would be able to put together a strong staff, use his fundraising connections, and implement a creative/innovative offense to go along with his defensive background. (He played offense at VU)


Mr. Nielsen

Florida drops only one spot in the new cfp rankings.  ::)
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 15, 2020, 07:21:45 PM
Florida drops only one spot in the new cfp rankings.  ::)

Iowa State moved up to 6 after their big win this weekend
Guster is for Lovers

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 15, 2020, 07:21:45 PM
Florida drops only one spot in the new cfp rankings.  ::)


Even if they beat Alabama, they don't deserve to be in the playoffs with two losses as long as there are 0 or 1-loss teams around like Clemson, Ohio State, Texas A&M, and yes, even Notre Dame.

The Sultan

I think the committee has basically done a good job in the past. I think they're in the tank for $$$ this year.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Want to feel old?
Ron Powlus III signed a LOI today to play at Notre Dame.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on December 16, 2020, 10:29:19 AM
Want to feel old?
Ron Powlus III signed a LOI today to play at Notre Dame.

So the Heismans for 2021-23 are locked up right? 

All humor aside, his father wasn't THAT bad for Notre Dame, but I think he made a mistake playing for Holtz and Holtz made a mistake recruiting him.  Holtz always succeeded with dual option quarterbacks (Kevin McDougal, Tony Rice) and Powlus definitely wasn't that. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni


Billy Hoyle

"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Pakuni on December 16, 2020, 11:05:28 AM
I think we have a winner for best name of the 2021 recruiting class.

https://247sports.com/player/general-booty-46058082/


His parents should have named him 'Big.' Unless maybe that's his sister's name....

Spotcheck Billy


The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on December 16, 2020, 11:05:28 AM
I think we have a winner for best name of the 2021 recruiting class.

https://247sports.com/player/general-booty-46058082/

I salute him, though he is a bit of an arse.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Mr. Nielsen

Friday, Dec. 18
Nebraska at Rutgers | 6:30 p.m. | Big Ten Network
UAB at Marshall (CUSA Championship Game) | 6 p.m. | CBSSN
Buffalo vs. Ball State (MAC Championship Game in Detroit, Michigan) | 6:30 p.m. | ESPN
Purdue at No. 11 Indiana — CANCELED
Oregon at No. 13 USC (Pac-12 Championship Game) | 7 p.m. | FOX

Saturday, Dec. 19
No. 4 Ohio State vs. No. 14 Northwestern (Big Ten Championship Game in Indianapolis, Indiana) | 11am. | FOX
No. 5 Texas A&M at Tennessee | 11am | ESPN
No. 6 Iowa State vs. No. 10 Oklahoma (Big 12 Championship Game in Arlington, Texas) | 11am | ABC
Florida State at Wake Forest | 11am| ACC Network
Washington State at Utah | 12:30 p.m. | FS1
Air Force at Army | 2 p.m. | CBSSN
No. 19 Louisiana at No. 12 Coastal Carolina (Sun Belt Championship Game) — CANCELED
Ole Miss at LSU | 2:30 p.m. | SEC Network
Missouri at Mississippi State | 2:30 p.m. | SEC Network (Alternate)
No. 2 Notre Dame vs. No. 3 Clemson (ACC Championship Game in Charlotte, North Carolina) | 3 p.m. | ABC
Minnesota at Wisconsin | 3 p.m. | Big Ten Network
No. 24 San Jose State vs. Boise State (Mountain West Championship Game in Las Vegas, Nevada) | 3:15 p.m. | FOX
SMU vs. UTSA (Frisco Bowl) — CANCELED
Illinois at Penn State | 4:30 p.m. | FS1
Michigan at No. 16 Iowa — CANCELED
Michigan State at Maryland — CANCELED
No. 1 Alabama vs. No. 7 Florida (SEC Championship Game in Atlanta, Georgia) | 7 p.m. | CBS
No. 23 Tulsa at No. 9 Cincinnati (AAC Championship Game) | 7 p.m. | ABC
Stanford at UCLA | 6 p.m. | ESPN2
Arizona State at Oregon State | 9:30 p.m. | ESPN
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

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