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Author Topic: 2020-21 College Football Thread  (Read 90150 times)

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #675 on: December 18, 2020, 11:28:12 AM »
Brian Kelly threatening to skip the CFP if families of players aren't allowed to attend.  Is this him worrying about families, or putting the lives of humans at risk for football again?  Or is it him just not wanting to lose by about 40 in another CFP semifinal?
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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #676 on: December 18, 2020, 11:46:30 AM »
Brian Kelly threatening to skip the CFP if families of players aren't allowed to attend.  Is this him worrying about families, or putting the lives of humans at risk for football again?  Or is it him just not wanting to lose by about 40 in another CFP semifinal?

He's killed before, and once they get the taste for human blood...

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #677 on: December 18, 2020, 12:34:08 PM »
Brian Kelly threatening to skip the CFP if families of players aren't allowed to attend.  Is this him worrying about families, or putting the lives of humans at risk for football again?  Or is it him just not wanting to lose by about 40 in another CFP semifinal?


After they lose by 40 tomorrow, it might not be an issue....

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #678 on: December 18, 2020, 12:38:44 PM »

After they lose by 40 tomorrow, it might not be an issue....

Think they'd still be in.

Also, will Lance Leipold get the Illinois job?  I think you could certainly do worse.
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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #679 on: December 18, 2020, 12:49:13 PM »
Notre Dame will be in regardless.  But if they get crushed, and they whine about no family, then the CFP should just take A&M.

Illinois interviewed Leipold and Beilema this week.  Rumor is they are also looking at Dave Clawson (Wake) and Todd Monken (Army).  If I were a betting man, I would guess Leipold is announced there sometime this weekend after the MAC Championship Game tonight.  (I don't know anything.)
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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #680 on: December 18, 2020, 02:37:55 PM »
Brian Kelly threatening to skip the CFP if families of players aren't allowed to attend.  Is this him worrying about families, or putting the lives of humans at risk for football again?  Or is it him just not wanting to lose by about 40 in another CFP semifinal?

I find it hilarious that BK is feigning concern for anyone other than himself, which flies directly in the face of his background and behavior his entire career. I have a friend that played for him at Cincy (inherited, as he was recruited and signed by Dantonio) and he basically said he was a very good coach but an abysmal human that had very little relationship with his players and nobody was sad when he left.

I also saw people saying Clemson-ND was that a**hole bowl and saying Dabo hasn’t killed anyone *YET* and linked some COVID article which was eye roll worthy.

Notre Dame will be in regardless.  But if they get crushed, and they whine about no family, then the CFP should just take A&M.

Illinois interviewed Leipold and Beilema this week.  Rumor is they are also looking at Dave Clawson (Wake) and Todd Monken (Army).  If I were a betting man, I would guess Leipold is announced there sometime this weekend after the MAC Championship Game tonight.  (I don't know anything.)


Clawson is actually a really solid option. Dude won at multiple levels, did well at a dump which is BG, and while he’s not been stellar at Wake, that’s a near impossible place to win with absolutely no history. 

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #681 on: December 19, 2020, 07:59:33 AM »
Looks like Illinois is going with Beilema.
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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #682 on: December 19, 2020, 08:22:29 AM »
Looks like Illinois is going with Beilema.

Not the most exciting hire, but hey could and have done much worse.

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« Reply #683 on: December 19, 2020, 08:50:42 AM »
I could see how it would work.  He knows the Big Ten, he has an engaging personality and can recruit well. 

But in his best years at Wisconsin, he had Paul Chryst as his offensive coordinator and Dave Doeren (current NC State head coach) as his defensive coordinator.  And even when Doeren left, he hired Chris Ash as his DC.  So how much was their success due to him, or due to his staff?

At Arkansas, he never got the staff right.  And while he looked like he was just about there at times, playing Alabama, Auburn and LSU every year was a hard thing to overcome.  (And it will be hard for Arkansas to overcome for a long time.)  Part of this was because he didn't pull a bunch of his staff from Wisconsin to Arkansas.  Word is, that he's not the most likeable guy and burned a lot of bridges both at UW and Arkansas.

This is probably why some of the Illinois AD's statements about him being a "lifelong learner" struck me as interesting.  I think the AD knows some of this, and pressed it during his interview.  Which is a good thing.  We will see where it goes.
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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #684 on: December 19, 2020, 09:08:10 AM »
I could see how it would work.  He knows the Big Ten, he has an engaging personality and can recruit well. 

But in his best years at Wisconsin, he had Paul Chryst as his offensive coordinator and Dave Doeren (current NC State head coach) as his defensive coordinator.  And even when Doeren left, he hired Chris Ash as his DC.  So how much was their success due to him, or due to his staff?

At Arkansas, he never got the staff right.  And while he looked like he was just about there at times, playing Alabama, Auburn and LSU every year was a hard thing to overcome.  (And it will be hard for Arkansas to overcome for a long time.)  Part of this was because he didn't pull a bunch of his staff from Wisconsin to Arkansas.  Word is, that he's not the most likeable guy and burned a lot of bridges both at UW and Arkansas.

This is probably why some of the Illinois AD's statements about him being a "lifelong learner" struck me as interesting.  I think the AD knows some of this, and pressed it during his interview.  Which is a good thing.  We will see where it goes.

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #685 on: December 19, 2020, 12:44:39 PM »
Looks like Illinois is going with Beilema.

Does he still have his Vegas stripper wife? 

I still can’t believe that meathead hooked up with Erin Andrews.
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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #686 on: December 19, 2020, 12:46:07 PM »
Cmon Cats, finish the job...

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #687 on: December 19, 2020, 12:51:15 PM »


I still can’t believe that meathead hooked up with Erin Andrew’s.
Who is Erin Andrew, and with what part of her did he hook up?

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #688 on: December 19, 2020, 01:20:14 PM »
I’ve done a 180 on Justin Fields. I have major concerns about him at the next level. I’ve watched most of their games this year, and I don’t think I could invest a top 10 pick in him. I think he has a high ceiling, but he’s made more than one games worth of poor decision making.

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« Reply #689 on: December 19, 2020, 01:27:59 PM »
I’ve done a 180 on Justin Fields. I have major concerns about him at the next level. I’ve watched most of their games this year, and I don’t think I could invest a top 10 pick in him. I think he has a high ceiling, but he’s made more than one games worth of poor decision making.

In fairness, Northwestern’s secondary may be the best in the country.

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #690 on: December 19, 2020, 01:35:11 PM »
In fairness, Northwestern’s secondary may be the best in the country.

I’m talking totality of this season. He has moments that are outstanding, but way too many times I’ve watched him this year and came away uninspired.

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #691 on: December 19, 2020, 01:36:24 PM »
In fairness, Northwestern’s secondary may be the best in the country.


But Dish noted that Fields has had 'more than one game' where his decisionmaking was suspect. One game against NU? No big deal. But an emerging pattern? Big deal.

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #692 on: December 19, 2020, 01:48:44 PM »
Cmon Cats, finish the job...

They gonna need to start tackling Sermon before he gets 15 yards.
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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #693 on: December 19, 2020, 01:51:01 PM »
I’ve done a 180 on Justin Fields. I have major concerns about him at the next level. I’ve watched most of their games this year, and I don’t think I could invest a top 10 pick in him. I think he has a high ceiling, but he’s made more than one games worth of poor decision making.

I will go on the record to say I absolutely do not want the Panthers to draft him if he's available.

In fairness, Northwestern’s secondary may be the best in the country.

You know who has secondaries even better than Northwestern's? Every NFL team.


But Dish noted that Fields has had 'more than one game' where his decisionmaking was suspect. One game against NU? No big deal. But an emerging pattern? Big deal.

Yep. Hard pass.
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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #694 on: December 19, 2020, 02:05:52 PM »
I’m talking totality of this season. He has moments that are outstanding, but way too many times I’ve watched him this year and came away uninspired.


That’s fair. Dropping just far enough for the Bears to pick him up at 14.

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #695 on: December 19, 2020, 02:10:34 PM »
I think Fields would have to have a red shirt year his rookie season. He’d have to go to a team with a good coordinator and QB coach. I don’t think he sucks or anything like that, but how he sees the field, his decision making, the speed of defenses in the NFL will hurt his passing game.

He’s athletic, has good running vision, I like his arm, but if I’m a GM holding a top 10 pick, I don’t know if I could take Fields. Especially with a fairly loaded offensive group of talent in round 1 next year.

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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #696 on: December 19, 2020, 02:13:18 PM »
I would put A&M in the CFP before OSU. It won’t happen I know.

Unless Northwestern makes a comeback here, A&M has to hope for a Clemson loss.
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« Reply #697 on: December 19, 2020, 02:20:10 PM »
They gonna need to start tackling Sermon before he gets 15 yards.

And thats the end of that
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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #698 on: December 19, 2020, 02:30:03 PM »
Does he still have his Vegas stripper wife? 

I still can’t believe that meathead hooked up with Erin Andrew’s.

No no, she’s just a generic Florida bimbo he met in Vegas. PJ Fleck is the one who married a stripper, a Kalamazoo stripper nonetheless.

And I’m nearly positive Wisconsin fans started that EA rumor to make Bielema seem like anything but the bloated lush gaming on every girl on State St he was.  No way the dude with his off the field antics and profile was wooing EA at the height of her fame when every athlete was shooting their shot.


But Dish noted that Fields has had 'more than one game' where his decisionmaking was suspect. One game against NU? No big deal. But an emerging pattern? Big deal.

Agreed. For lack of a better phrase, Fields needs to be humbled. He’s too confident in his arm and superior athleticism. And that’s not the “confidence” you want in a QB. It’s the arrogance that leads to picks and bad decisions time and time again.


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Re: 2020-21 College Football Thread
« Reply #699 on: December 19, 2020, 02:31:31 PM »
Easy cover at least