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Pakuni

Quote from: ChuckyChip on August 10, 2020, 12:40:04 PM
According to the Detroit Free Press, a vote was taken over the weekend and only Nebraska and Iowa voted to play.

Although I believe that there is still some intention to try to play in the spring.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/2020/08/10/big-ten-football-cancels-season-michigan-michigan-state/3332277001/
This was tweeted 30 minutes ago.

Pete Thamel
@PeteThamel
Just got a text from a Big Ten spokesman. "No vote has been held by our presidents and chancellors." Hence, the Big Ten watch continues.


Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on August 10, 2020, 12:42:48 PM
This was tweeted 30 minutes ago.

Pete Thamel
@PeteThamel
Just got a text from a Big Ten spokesman. "No vote has been held by our presidents and chancellors." Hence, the Big Ten watch continues.

We'll see how that text holds up. Simply, he is not authorized to give information.

Jockey

#53
The Florida Genius - Ron Desantis - is telling SEC schools to poach players from the the schools that aren't playing this year. I need someone smarter than me to explain if that is allowable or not.


As to the cancellation, my opinion is that the players demands on Saturday, led by Trevor Lawrence, are what triggered this. It was only a few days ago that the B10 released a modified schedule and said they were going to play.

I think the modified financial outlook led to this - they are losing control - and gives leagues more time to figure things out.

Pakuni

Quote from: Jockey on August 10, 2020, 01:47:45 PM
We'll see how that text holds up. Simply, he is not authorized to give information.

I'm not sure what there is to hold up. As of that moment, a vote hadn't been taken to cancel the season. Doesn't mean that the vote isn't coming. It probably is. The Big 10 is simply being weenies here. They don't want to cancel and see the rest of P5 play, so they're trying to rope in the other conferences.

Side note ... the son of Big 10 Commissioner Kevin Warren plays at Mississippi State. It would be ironic if his league cancels and his son plays.


Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Jockey on August 10, 2020, 02:15:10 PM
The Florida Genius - Ron Desantis - is telling SEC schools to poach players from the the schools that aren't playing this year. I need someone smarter than me to explain if that is allowable or not.


As to the cancellation, my opinion is that the players demands on Saturday, led by Trevor Lawrence, are what triggered this. It was only a few days ago that the B10 released a modified schedule and said they were going to play.

I think the modified financial outlook led to this - they are losing control - and gives leagues more time to figure things out.

a couple issues with that:

1 - unless kids go up on the transfer portal SEC schools could reach out to kids on Big Ten rosters
2 - the Big Ten schools have the ability to object to a waiver of the year in residence. Tampering is always going to stop the waiver request from going through.
3 - are their scholarships available at these schools?
4 - progress towards degree. Will enough credits transfer for kids to be eligible at their new school? It's easy for rising sophs but others, especially rising seniors and fifth year, there is very little chance of that happening.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Watching college football meathead coaches meltdown is great theater. 
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

Well I think this is all theatre anyway. I'm very doubtful the season will be able to finish in a meaningful manner. Cancel now, cancel next week, cancel next month...doesn't really matter.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ChuckyChip

Quote from: Pakuni on August 10, 2020, 12:42:48 PM
This was tweeted 30 minutes ago.

Pete Thamel
@PeteThamel
Just got a text from a Big Ten spokesman. "No vote has been held by our presidents and chancellors." Hence, the Big Ten watch continues.

Well now it's "official".

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/2020/08/11/big-ten-football-fall-season-canceled/3342902001/


Jockey

The B10 is THE money conference. I expect other dominoes to fall in line.

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on August 11, 2020, 02:25:04 PM
The B10 is THE money conference. I expect other dominoes to fall in line.


I actually only expect the Pac 12 to follow immediately.  I think it will be couple weeks before the other conferences follow.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 11, 2020, 02:26:37 PM

I actually only expect the Pac 12 to follow immediately.  I think it will be couple weeks before the other conferences follow.

I agree completely.


GooooMarquette

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 11, 2020, 02:26:37 PM

I actually only expect the Pac 12 to follow immediately.  I think it will be couple weeks before the other conferences follow.


Expect the announcement in the next 30 minutes or so....

https://twitter.com/johncanzanobft/status/1293260855572754432?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Agree that the other three might hold out a bit longer. Lots of schools in areas that don't believe in COVID.

Dish

NFL is going to cash in fast on this.

Jockey

Quote from: jesmu84 on August 11, 2020, 02:40:02 PM
https://twitter.com/AndyGlockner/status/1293270476819595264?s=19

This really needs to be emphasized. The threat to amateurism is almost as big a driving force in this as is Covid.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Jockey on August 11, 2020, 02:46:17 PM
This really needs to be emphasized. The threat to amateurism is almost as big a driving force in this as is Covid.

I think it is a much bigger driving force honestly
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


GooooMarquette


Pakuni

At least Lou Holtz is keeping things in perspective.

Justin Baragona @justinbaragona
Lou Holtz tells Fox News that college football needs to play amid coronavirus pandemic this fall: "Let's move on with our life! When they stormed Normandy, they knew there were going to be casualties -- there were going to be risks."

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1293267651591012352

Uncle Rico

With the Big 14 out, what conference will send the losing team to the Rose Bowl?
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

The logic of the Big 10 escapes me, so perhaps someone can explain.
They're allowing players to live on campus together, practice together and condition together, because they'll be safe in that self-contained "bubble."
But they can't go play another team that's also in a safe, self-contained "bubble."
If these circumstances are safe, why can't the players from Bubble A meet up with players from Bubble B without risking further spread? And if there's a risk of spread, why are they taking part in group activities at all?
It all seems contradictory to me, but perhaps I'm missing something. I'm not arguing for or against playing games, just trying to see through the apparent inconsistency of the league's stance.

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