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Pakuni

Quote from: pbiflyer on August 06, 2021, 07:41:09 AM
Or governor of Florida.

Or congressman from NC:
GOP Lawmaker Calls Mask Mandate 'Child Abuse'

Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-NC) spoke against a school mask mandate during a school board meeting, equating it to "psychological child abuse," The Hill reports.

It's fun to see that the "f*ck your feelings " crowd thinks they've raised children who are such snowflakes that wearing a mask in school does psychological damage.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on August 06, 2021, 11:14:31 AM
It's fun to see that the "f*ck your feelings " crowd thinks they've raised children who are such snowflakes that wearing a mask in school does psychological damage.



Not just the "f*ck your feelings" crowd, but the ones who claim that we have been too soft on our children.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Pakuni on August 06, 2021, 11:14:31 AM
It's fun to see that the "f*ck your feelings " crowd thinks they've raised children who are such snowflakes that wearing a mask in school does psychological damage.

I had to reroute from a highway accident on my way to work this morning, and I almost barfed when I saw a homemade billboard with an awful picture of a 7 year with a mask on with verbiage stating "Let us breathe."
Puhhleezze. 

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on August 06, 2021, 11:57:37 AM
I had to reroute from a highway accident on my way to work this morning, and I almost barfed when I saw a homemade billboard with an awful picture of a 7 year with a mask on with verbiage stating "Let us breathe."
Puhhleezze.

i hope that's not supposed to be a play on last summer's unrest.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on August 06, 2021, 12:09:14 PM
i hope that's not supposed to be a play on last summer's unrest.

There's a reason their 'gotcha' sayings like "I can't breathe" or "My body my choice" are squarely aimed at denigrating BIPOC and women. White male supremacy is a core tenant of their belief system.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on August 06, 2021, 12:09:14 PM
i hope that's not supposed to be a play on last summer's unrest.

No it's one of those "Call our governor and tell him to unmask our kids this school year!" signs.

MU82

Quote from: pbiflyer on August 06, 2021, 07:41:09 AM
Or governor of Florida.

Or congressman from NC:
GOP Lawmaker Calls Mask Mandate 'Child Abuse'

Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-NC) spoke against a school mask mandate during a school board meeting, equating it to "psychological child abuse," The Hill reports.

Yeah, I just saw this.

Another effen moron.

All competing to be loved by those who worship the previous president.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

pbiflyer

Masks In school.

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on August 06, 2021, 05:11:39 PM
Yeah, I just saw this.

Another effen moron.

All competing to be loved by those who worship the previous president.

At least he didn't compare the mask mandates to Nazi Germany like a lot of them are doing.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Jockey on August 06, 2021, 05:37:22 PM
At least he didn't compare the mask mandates to Nazi Germany like a lot of them are doing.
Of course not. That's only because Cawthorn is quite pro-Nazi.

Republican Rep. Madison Cawthorn deletes swastika tweet after criticism, media questions
https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/2021/07/12/swastika-tweet-deleted-after-posting-gop-rep-madison-cawthorn/7935989002/

"The American flag symbolizes unity, patriotism, independence, pride, and love for our country. BLM continues to expose their radical hatred of this country," tweeted Cawthorn, who represents North Carolina's far-western 11th District, including Asheville.

He linked to a July 8 New York Post story "BLM chapter calls American flag 'symbol of hatred' only used by racists."

The main image for the article — and the main one for his tweet — showed members of the National Socialist Movement in 2008 marching from the Washington Monument to the grounds of the United States Capitol Building. One man wears a shirt that says "skinhead" while he holds the hand of a boy with a shirt with a large swastika, the symbol of Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany during the World War II."

Young GOP Candidate, Madison Cawthorn, Vacationed At Hitler's Retreat
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/08/young-gop-candidate-madison-cawthorn
"Photos from his Instagram showed his glee at vacationing at Adolf Hitler's favorite retreat - Eagle's Nest in 2017. He also called Hitler by a term of reverence - "Führer." Oh, and he also displays a flag that is often used by far-right extremists (aka Nazis) in his home."

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Jockey

I forgot all about that, T.

naginiF

Just got back to KC after 2+ weeks away.....stopped for last gas/sugar between Topeka and Lawrence and there was only one other person in the rest stop complex with a mask on. After unpacking we hit 3 carryout restaurants and the grocery store and there was 100% masking indoors.

This pandemic, and the last 5 years, have made me so appreciative of living in a metro core.

Quote from: Jockey on August 06, 2021, 11:53:31 PM
I forgot all about that, T.
Waiting for Arrow to pine in with "but both sides have extremes so please ignore it"

Pakuni

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is threatening to deny state funding for public schools that require masks, sends his kids to a private school in Tallahassee that ... wait for it ... requires masks.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on August 10, 2021, 09:15:28 AM
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is threatening to deny state funding for public schools that require masks, sends his kids to a private school in Tallahassee that ... wait for it ... requires masks.



He is also now threatening to withhold pay from district administrators that defy his mask policy.  Which is likely not legal but whatever...
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 10, 2021, 09:32:57 AM

He is also now threatening to withhold pay from district administrators that defy his mask policy.  Which is likely not legal but whatever...

That'll play great in the sticks, though.

MU82

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 10, 2021, 10:04:47 AM
That'll play great in the sticks, though.

Again, DeSantis is actively, aggressively working against protecting his constituents from COVID-19.

Meanwhile, in other "I'm a governor who doesn't give a shyte about my constituents' health" news ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/us/dallas-school-masks-abbott.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210810&instance_id=37549&nl=the-morning&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=65833&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

The Dallas Independent School District said on Monday that everyone — students, employees and visitors — must wear a mask while on school property, starting Tuesday.

The mandate, which officials said was temporary, was imposed in defiance of an executive order by Gov. Greg Abbott that prohibits school districts from requiring masks.

The public school district, the second-largest in Texas according to its website, appears to be the first in the state to defy the order.


Good on Dallas.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

🏀

BURLINGTON — A group of anti-mask mandate parents are walking the hallways of Burlington High School, hunting for the school board that had just abruptly adjourned a meeting, when the crowd is stopped by police.

Two hours prior, Burlington citizens and parents filled the school's auditorium for a school board meeting Monday night to speak out about what they believe the district's mask policy should be for the upcoming school year amid a surge in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations.


At the start of the meeting, School Board President Peter Turke reminded attendees on public comment policy.

"I'm responsible as the board president for running the meeting and I want to make sure things go smoothly and want to make sure everyone has a chance to be heard," Turke said.

Things did not go smoothly.

Throughout the hour of public comment, Turke on several occasions asked the audience to quiet down so the board could hear speakers and so the meeting could flow smoothly from one speaker to the next.

Regardless, audience members continued to clap and cheer as parents — all of whom spoke in opposition to a mask requirement despite local health leaders saying mask mandates in schools will likely save lives — gave impassioned pleas for the board to not require masks to start the 2021-22 school year. Audience members often interrupted the very speaker they were cheering for.


"The masks, this is simple, silence you. And our kids have no voice. These kids come home to their families in tears, spilling out their guts. Parents felt hopeless. We're not going to tolerate another year, please, of torture and abuse on our children to attend the public education system," one speaker, Stacie Coleman, said.

The crowd grew more animated, and got louder and angrier as the minutes ticked on.

"Grow up and get a pair!" a man shouted at the board after being reprimanded for his public comment; he was met with shouts of support.

"We're trying to have a civilized conversation," Turke said before being interrupted by the same man, who yelled again: "We're all trying to be civil here! We all have no masks on!"

The meeting devolved. Shouts overlapped one another. Communication failed.

A motion was made to suspend public comments as those gathered continued to yell. When board members Taylor Wishau and Marlo Brown said they wanted public comment to continue, they were met with cheers from the crowd. But Wishau's and Brown's five fellow board members overruled them, to the displeasure of the crowd.

Turke was unable to regain control.

He said, "I'd like to continue the meeting, but we can only do it if we have an organized—" He was then cut off by someone in the crowd, shouting interruptions. When he was able to briefly try and continue the meeting again, Turke said, "we cannot do so ... if we have chaos. This is not working for us. We are at that point now."

A man in the audience grabbed a standing microphone and yelled while pointing at Turke: "We are going to take over this board right now!"

While the board attempted to ask for the meeting to go on recess, many refused to leave and continued to shout at the board members. The board adjourned to a different meeting spot. Initially board members said they were moving to the school library, but when parents minutes later searched the halls, they found the library empty.

2 crazy meetings 9 months apart
Monday's brouhaha was the second Burlington Area School District meeting to involve a police presence and school board members exiting the room while being shouted at by a crowd in nine months.

However, the makeup of the two crowds was drastically different.

On Nov. 9, 2020, pro-Black Lives Matter demonstrators shut down a meeting, expressing their disapproval of the board's alleged slowness to implement anti-racism measures in the district.

After that day, the board wouldn't meet in person again until summer 2021. In addition to COVID-19 concerns, the board had feared more unrest.

While their first few in-person meetings this year had been calmer, board members again faced duress Monday, this time from anti-mask mandate parents.



Some parents left, but dozens stayed.

Those who stayed decided to elect their own school board, claiming that the actual board breached public meeting law.

Choosing to allow Brown and Wishau to remain on their new board, the group held an impromptu election in the hallway where they elected one too many members, including Aaron Melby as "chairman."

Under Wisconsin law, this "election" is by no means legal or binding.

Regardless, the "newly elected" board met in the high school's cafeteria, where public comment continued and adjourned when pressed by police at 9 p.m., but not before picking their next meeting date: Aug. 16.

Meanwhile, the official school board meeting resumed elsewhere in the building — not in the library. They moved through a few regular business items in less than six minutes while foregoing major agenda items such as the mask decision. Information that was to be discussed regarding Elementary and Secondary School Emergency Relief (ESSER) funding was also skipped, according to livestreamed video.

While Melby said he still has to look into whether there was legal standing for the board, he said he felt good about the outcome of the night.

"But," Melby said to a reporter after the meeting, "if nothing else, if it's legal or not, we made a statement tonight."

🏀

Quote from: Retire0 on August 10, 2021, 10:39:21 AM
BURLINGTON — A group of anti-mask mandate parents are walking the hallways of Burlington High School, hunting for the school board that had just abruptly adjourned a meeting, when the crowd is stopped by police.

Two hours prior, Burlington citizens and parents filled the school's auditorium for a school board meeting Monday night to speak out about what they believe the district's mask policy should be for the upcoming school year amid a surge in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations.


At the start of the meeting, School Board President Peter Turke reminded attendees on public comment policy.

"I'm responsible as the board president for running the meeting and I want to make sure things go smoothly and want to make sure everyone has a chance to be heard," Turke said.

Things did not go smoothly.

Throughout the hour of public comment, Turke on several occasions asked the audience to quiet down so the board could hear speakers and so the meeting could flow smoothly from one speaker to the next.

Regardless, audience members continued to clap and cheer as parents — all of whom spoke in opposition to a mask requirement despite local health leaders saying mask mandates in schools will likely save lives — gave impassioned pleas for the board to not require masks to start the 2021-22 school year. Audience members often interrupted the very speaker they were cheering for.


"The masks, this is simple, silence you. And our kids have no voice. These kids come home to their families in tears, spilling out their guts. Parents felt hopeless. We're not going to tolerate another year, please, of torture and abuse on our children to attend the public education system," one speaker, Stacie Coleman, said.

The crowd grew more animated, and got louder and angrier as the minutes ticked on.

"Grow up and get a pair!" a man shouted at the board after being reprimanded for his public comment; he was met with shouts of support.

"We're trying to have a civilized conversation," Turke said before being interrupted by the same man, who yelled again: "We're all trying to be civil here! We all have no masks on!"

The meeting devolved. Shouts overlapped one another. Communication failed.

A motion was made to suspend public comments as those gathered continued to yell. When board members Taylor Wishau and Marlo Brown said they wanted public comment to continue, they were met with cheers from the crowd. But Wishau's and Brown's five fellow board members overruled them, to the displeasure of the crowd.

Turke was unable to regain control.

He said, "I'd like to continue the meeting, but we can only do it if we have an organized—" He was then cut off by someone in the crowd, shouting interruptions. When he was able to briefly try and continue the meeting again, Turke said, "we cannot do so ... if we have chaos. This is not working for us. We are at that point now."

A man in the audience grabbed a standing microphone and yelled while pointing at Turke: "We are going to take over this board right now!"

While the board attempted to ask for the meeting to go on recess, many refused to leave and continued to shout at the board members. The board adjourned to a different meeting spot. Initially board members said they were moving to the school library, but when parents minutes later searched the halls, they found the library empty.

2 crazy meetings 9 months apart
Monday's brouhaha was the second Burlington Area School District meeting to involve a police presence and school board members exiting the room while being shouted at by a crowd in nine months.

However, the makeup of the two crowds was drastically different.

On Nov. 9, 2020, pro-Black Lives Matter demonstrators shut down a meeting, expressing their disapproval of the board's alleged slowness to implement anti-racism measures in the district.

After that day, the board wouldn't meet in person again until summer 2021. In addition to COVID-19 concerns, the board had feared more unrest.

While their first few in-person meetings this year had been calmer, board members again faced duress Monday, this time from anti-mask mandate parents.



Some parents left, but dozens stayed.

Those who stayed decided to elect their own school board, claiming that the actual board breached public meeting law.

Choosing to allow Brown and Wishau to remain on their new board, the group held an impromptu election in the hallway where they elected one too many members, including Aaron Melby as "chairman."

Under Wisconsin law, this "election" is by no means legal or binding.

Regardless, the "newly elected" board met in the high school's cafeteria, where public comment continued and adjourned when pressed by police at 9 p.m., but not before picking their next meeting date: Aug. 16.

Meanwhile, the official school board meeting resumed elsewhere in the building — not in the library. They moved through a few regular business items in less than six minutes while foregoing major agenda items such as the mask decision. Information that was to be discussed regarding Elementary and Secondary School Emergency Relief (ESSER) funding was also skipped, according to livestreamed video.

While Melby said he still has to look into whether there was legal standing for the board, he said he felt good about the outcome of the night.

"But," Melby said to a reporter after the meeting, "if nothing else, if it's legal or not, we made a statement tonight."

School board insurrections now.

forgetful

Aren't the people who are anti-mask, also the ones normally screaming snowflake?

If your kids can't wear a simple mask in school, without coming home in tears, spilling out their guts...they might be a snowflake.

If you are a grown adult who completely looses their crap, over having to wear a mask in public...you might be a snowflake.

Pakuni

Under Wisconsin law, this "election" is by no means legal or binding.

Funny that the reporter thought it necessary to include this line.

The Sultan

That's just so f*cking insane.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

I have to think kids watching their parents breathlessly argue against a mask to protect them in school has a more negative longterm effect on them than the mask will. Not to mention the risk of getting the virus.

The Sultan

Quote from: cheebs09 on August 10, 2021, 11:32:40 AM
I have to think kids watching their parents breathlessly argue against a mask to protect them in school has a more negative longterm effect on them than the mask will. Not to mention the risk of getting the virus.


I have mentioned this before, but we have multiple students asking us if we still provide vaccinations (we do), and want to make sure their parents won't find out.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Retire0 on August 10, 2021, 10:39:21 AM
BURLINGTON — A group of anti-mask mandate parents are walking the hallways of Burlington High School, hunting for the school board that had just abruptly adjourned a meeting, when the crowd is stopped by police.

Two hours prior, Burlington citizens and parents filled the school's auditorium for a school board meeting Monday night to speak out about what they believe the district's mask policy should be for the upcoming school year amid a surge in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations.


At the start of the meeting, School Board President Peter Turke reminded attendees on public comment policy.

"I'm responsible as the board president for running the meeting and I want to make sure things go smoothly and want to make sure everyone has a chance to be heard," Turke said.

Things did not go smoothly.

Throughout the hour of public comment, Turke on several occasions asked the audience to quiet down so the board could hear speakers and so the meeting could flow smoothly from one speaker to the next.

Regardless, audience members continued to clap and cheer as parents — all of whom spoke in opposition to a mask requirement despite local health leaders saying mask mandates in schools will likely save lives — gave impassioned pleas for the board to not require masks to start the 2021-22 school year. Audience members often interrupted the very speaker they were cheering for.


"The masks, this is simple, silence you. And our kids have no voice. These kids come home to their families in tears, spilling out their guts. Parents felt hopeless. We're not going to tolerate another year, please, of torture and abuse on our children to attend the public education system," one speaker, Stacie Coleman, said.

The crowd grew more animated, and got louder and angrier as the minutes ticked on.

"Grow up and get a pair!" a man shouted at the board after being reprimanded for his public comment; he was met with shouts of support.

"We're trying to have a civilized conversation," Turke said before being interrupted by the same man, who yelled again: "We're all trying to be civil here! We all have no masks on!"

The meeting devolved. Shouts overlapped one another. Communication failed.

A motion was made to suspend public comments as those gathered continued to yell. When board members Taylor Wishau and Marlo Brown said they wanted public comment to continue, they were met with cheers from the crowd. But Wishau's and Brown's five fellow board members overruled them, to the displeasure of the crowd.

Turke was unable to regain control.

He said, "I'd like to continue the meeting, but we can only do it if we have an organized—" He was then cut off by someone in the crowd, shouting interruptions. When he was able to briefly try and continue the meeting again, Turke said, "we cannot do so ... if we have chaos. This is not working for us. We are at that point now."

A man in the audience grabbed a standing microphone and yelled while pointing at Turke: "We are going to take over this board right now!"

While the board attempted to ask for the meeting to go on recess, many refused to leave and continued to shout at the board members. The board adjourned to a different meeting spot. Initially board members said they were moving to the school library, but when parents minutes later searched the halls, they found the library empty.

2 crazy meetings 9 months apart
Monday's brouhaha was the second Burlington Area School District meeting to involve a police presence and school board members exiting the room while being shouted at by a crowd in nine months.

However, the makeup of the two crowds was drastically different.

On Nov. 9, 2020, pro-Black Lives Matter demonstrators shut down a meeting, expressing their disapproval of the board's alleged slowness to implement anti-racism measures in the district.

After that day, the board wouldn't meet in person again until summer 2021. In addition to COVID-19 concerns, the board had feared more unrest.

While their first few in-person meetings this year had been calmer, board members again faced duress Monday, this time from anti-mask mandate parents.



Some parents left, but dozens stayed.

Those who stayed decided to elect their own school board, claiming that the actual board breached public meeting law.

Choosing to allow Brown and Wishau to remain on their new board, the group held an impromptu election in the hallway where they elected one too many members, including Aaron Melby as "chairman."

Under Wisconsin law, this "election" is by no means legal or binding.

Regardless, the "newly elected" board met in the high school's cafeteria, where public comment continued and adjourned when pressed by police at 9 p.m., but not before picking their next meeting date: Aug. 16.

Meanwhile, the official school board meeting resumed elsewhere in the building — not in the library. They moved through a few regular business items in less than six minutes while foregoing major agenda items such as the mask decision. Information that was to be discussed regarding Elementary and Secondary School Emergency Relief (ESSER) funding was also skipped, according to livestreamed video.

While Melby said he still has to look into whether there was legal standing for the board, he said he felt good about the outcome of the night.

"But," Melby said to a reporter after the meeting, "if nothing else, if it's legal or not, we made a statement tonight."

Sounds like a Madison school board meeting.

MU82

Quote from: cheebs09 on August 10, 2021, 11:32:40 AM
I have to think kids watching their parents breathlessly argue against a mask to protect them in school has a more negative longterm effect on them than the mask will. Not to mention the risk of getting the virus.

Superb point.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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