Masks

[shoothoops]

"Once again, I asked my Republican colleagues to stop endangering all the Senate workers, and simply wear a mask when presiding over the Senate. Once again they refused."


https://twitter.com/SenSherrodBrown/status/1328494242210209793?s=19

[pacearrow02]

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

Would you look at that.  Turns out Fauci was right way back in March, apologies to him.

Should have stuck to his guns!

[Uncle Rico]

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

Would you look at that.  Turns out Fauci was right way back in March, apologies to him.

Should have stuck to his guns!

Daily death rates rising.  Don't wear masks!

[The Sultan]

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

Would you look at that.  Turns out Fauci was right way back in March, apologies to him.

Should have stuck to his guns!

Oh Cheeks.  You didn't read the link did you.  This was a study that tested mask wearing in controlled settings where distancing and other factors were already in place.  And even then it was inconclusive.

But as for the overall effectiveness of mask wearing, it says this:

"Thus, these findings do not provide data on the effectiveness of widespread mask wearing in the community in reducing SARS-CoV-2 infections. They do, however, offer evidence about the degree of protection mask wearers can anticipate in a setting where others are not wearing masks and where other public health measures, including social distancing, are in effect. The findings also suggest that persons should not abandon other COVID-19 safety measures regardless of the use of masks."

[pacearrow02]

Daily death rates rising.  Don't wear masks!

Science denier!!!

[jesmu84]

Oh Cheeks.  You didn't read the link did you.  This was a study that tested mask wearing in controlled settings where distancing and other factors were already in place.  And even then it was inconclusive.

But as for the overall effectiveness of mask wearing, it says this:

"Thus, these findings do not provide data on the effectiveness of widespread mask wearing in the community in reducing SARS-CoV-2 infections. They do, however, offer evidence about the degree of protection mask wearers can anticipate in a setting where others are not wearing masks and where other public health measures, including social distancing, are in effect. The findings also suggest that persons should not abandon other COVID-19 safety measures regardless of the use of masks."

L.O.L.

[pacearrow02]

Oh Cheeks.  You didn't read the link did you.  This was a study that tested mask wearing in controlled settings where distancing and other factors were already in place.  And even then it was inconclusive.

But as for the overall effectiveness of mask wearing, it says this:

"Thus, these findings do not provide data on the effectiveness of widespread mask wearing in the community in reducing SARS-CoV-2 infections. They do, however, offer evidence about the degree of protection mask wearers can anticipate in a setting where others are not wearing masks and where other public health measures, including social distancing, are in effect. The findings also suggest that persons should not abandon other COVID-19 safety measures regardless of the use of masks."

Oh Fluffy, sweetie.  You're twisting yourself in knots.

To ignore the findings of this study, the stories we've all heard from friends/families/fellow scoopers of instances where infection happened despite disciplined mask wearing, and the fact that we are at record levels of infection despite better then ever mask compliance across the country as evidence to possibly doubt the effectiveness of masks lacks logic.

But you do you Fluffy, I suggest doubling up the mask to offer twice the protection.

[Uncle Rico]

Oh Fluffy, sweetie.  You're twisting yourself in knots.

To ignore the findings of this study, the stories we've all heard from friends/families/fellow scoopers of instances where infection happened despite disciplined mask wearing, and the fact that we are at record levels of infection despite better then ever mask compliance across the country as evidence to possibly doubt the effectiveness of masks lacks logic.

But you do you Fluffy, I suggest doubling up the mask to offer twice the protection.

You're correct.  What we need is a complete shutdown across the nation.  Glad you've recovered after the trumping of your dear leader two weeks ago

[pacearrow02]

You're correct.  What we need is a complete shutdown across the nation.  Glad you've recovered after the trumping of your dear leader two weeks ago

A complete shutdown until everyone is vaccinated would certainly do the trick and if Biden doesn't impose this measure he'll have blood of innocent people in his hands.  That's how this works right?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/health/coronavirus-masks-denmark.html#click=https://t.co/xrP6wLl3SW

Nice article outlining both sides of the argument coming from this study.

[Uncle Rico]

A complete shutdown until everyone is vaccinated would certainly do the trick and if Biden doesn't impose this measure he'll have blood of innocent people in his hands.  That's how this works right?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/health/coronavirus-masks-denmark.html#click=https://t.co/xrP6wLl3SW

Nice article outlining both sides of the argument coming from this study.

I see you didn't read the article again

[The Sultan]

Oh Fluffy, sweetie.  You're twisting yourself in knots.

To ignore the findings of this study, the stories we've all heard from friends/families/fellow scoopers of instances where infection happened despite disciplined mask wearing, and the fact that we are at record levels of infection despite better then ever mask compliance across the country as evidence to possibly doubt the effectiveness of masks lacks logic.

But you do you Fluffy, I suggest doubling up the mask to offer twice the protection.

Uh...what?  What you are claiming is not a conclusion that can be drawn from this study.  What CAN be drawn, is that mask wearing may not provide extra benefits where other mitigating procedures are already in place.

It SPECIFICALLY STATES that it doesn't provide any conclusions as to the effectiveness of widespread mask wearing.

I mean, can you read???

[pacearrow02]

I see you didn't read the article again

I see you're wrong....again

[lawdog77]

I thought the primary purpose of a mask was to protect others from you, so therefore, if everyone wears masks, the Covid rate should plummet.. Or is Pace just being obtuse for the sake of being obtuse?

[pacearrow02]

I thought the primary purpose of a mask was to protect others from you, so therefore, if everyone wears masks, the Covid rate should plummet.. Or is Pace just being obtuse for the sake of being obtuse?

You would think, that's what we were told at least.

Doesn't appear to be the case.

[Pakuni]

You would think, that's what we were told at least.

Doesn't appear to be the case.

Further proof you didn't read your link.

[Skatastrophy]

Don't argue with fools...

[SERocks]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm

I prefer to believe stories like this rather than attempt to discredit mask use by obfuscating other studies that seem to on their face say they cannot draw conclusions from the data in the study.

[lostpassword]

I thought the primary purpose of a mask was to protect others from you, so therefore, if everyone wears masks, the Covid rate should plummet.. Or is Pace just being obtuse for the sake of being obtuse?

I only skimmed the link but it specifically says this: "no assessment of whether masks could decrease disease transmission from mask wearers to others."

I've yet to see anything that indicates wearing a mask is a net-negative for myself but lots that says it is good for the community should I become infected.  I'm confused as to how this study could be used to support not wearing masks.

[pacearrow02]

Further proof you didn't read your link.

Further proof you are also wrong....again.

I know the study looked at the efficacy of mask wearing as it relates to protecting yourself and not the spread to others.

I'm referring to the spike in infections in the last 6 weeks or so when mask wearing is at an all time high. That would suggest it's not working in limiting the spread to others.

[pacearrow02]

Don't argue with fools...

Didn't take long for the name calling to start, par for the course.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I see you're wrong....again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXmnmvDl-ao

[Galway Eagle]

I'm referring to the spike in infections in the last 6 weeks or so when mask wearing is at an all time high. That would suggest it's not working in limiting the spread to others.

Or different way of looking at it, as businesses returned to larger capacities, offices started opening again, restaurants and bars were allowed to have indoor diners and drinkers again.

If you have a bunch of people who wear masks to go to their seat and watch the football game that's good till every one of them removes said mask to drink their beer once at the bar.

You also assume people are wearing their masks correctly and/or have effective masks. Plenty of studies have shown your nose needs to be covered and many many people don't. And we've seen the study about which masks are most effective, yet people still wear bandanas or those nylon things that do nothing.

[The Sultan]

Further proof you are also wrong....again.

I know the study looked at the efficacy of mask wearing as it relates to protecting yourself and not the spread to others.

I'm referring to the spike in infections in the last 6 weeks or so when mask wearing is at an all time high. That would suggest it's not working in limiting the spread to others.

1. So you wanted to make a point. 
2. Did a Google search for a study you hope would make it for you. 
3. Found something that you either didn't read or understand
4. Now that this has been pointed out to you, are making your point regardless.

So very Chicos. <chef's kiss> 

Anyway, the drive up in cases has largely been traced to bars or family events where mask compliance...isn't great.

[Pakuni]

Further proof you are also wrong....again.

I know the study looked at the efficacy of mask wearing as it relates to protecting yourself and not the spread to others.

I'm referring to the spike in infections in the last 6 weeks or so when mask wearing is at an all time high. That would suggest it's not working in limiting the spread to others.

Nope. The surges are tied to a lack of mask wearing, especially at social gatherings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/11/12/covid-social-gatherings/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/mask-wearing-coronavirus-hot-spots/2020/10/27/71001546-1883-11eb-82db-60b15c874105_story.html

[Uncle Rico]

People like PaceArrow are why we have failed as a society.  Instead of working together to mitigate a pandemic, too many people look for reasons not to be better