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Pakuni

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 15, 2020, 03:04:37 PM
https://publichealthmdc.com/documents/2020-07-07_Order_8.pdf

I guess public officials agree there should be exceptions.

So now we're ignoring the science?
Look, just because public officials are allowing for exceptions doesn't mean there are, in fact, medical conditions that prevent mask wearing. I'll stand with the doctors who say there are virtually none. And by my remark that anyone who claims a medical condition prevents him/her from wearing a mask is almost certainly lying.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on July 15, 2020, 03:14:36 PM
So now we're ignoring the science?
Look, just because public officials are allowing for exceptions doesn't mean there are, in fact, medical conditions that prevent mask wearing. I'll stand with the doctors who say there are virtually none. And by my remark that anyone who claims a medical condition prevents him/her from wearing a mask is almost certainly lying.

Thanks.  I'm not saying that people shouldn't wear masks.  Merely stating that for a very select few people it isn't an option to wear one.

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 15, 2020, 03:16:00 PM
Thanks.  I'm not saying that people shouldn't wear masks.  Merely stating that for a very select few people it isn't an option to wear one.

Then we agree. If someone claims they have a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, they're almost certainly lying.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on July 15, 2020, 03:25:41 PM
Then we agree. If someone claims they have a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, they're almost certainly lying.

Thanks for the qualifiers  ;)

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Pakuni on July 15, 2020, 02:11:50 PM
Those who claim they can't wear a mask because of a medical condition are almost certainly lying.

"There are no known medical conditions aside from a severe skin condition [like a very severe burn that needs medical attention] on your face that would prevent a person from wearing this type of mask," David Kaufman, MD, pulmonologist and director of the medical ICU at Tisch Hospital, tells Health. "If you can wear a scarf to keep your face warm in the winter, you can wear a mask to prevent the spread of disease."


https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/can-you-be-medically-exempt-from-wearing-a-face-mask

I found out this week a co-worker in our other Connecticut facility apparently terribly bloodied himself good while shaving and spent the day wearing the mask at work.  He came down with an infection on his face that required antibiotics.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 15, 2020, 04:00:30 PM
I found out this week a co-worker in our other Connecticut facility apparently terribly bloodied himself good while shaving and spent the day wearing the mask at work.  He came down with an infection on his face that required antibiotics.

Maybe he should have put a mask on his wound.  I think they are commonly known as Band-Aids. 

Pakuni

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 15, 2020, 04:00:30 PM
I found out this week a co-worker in our other Connecticut facility apparently terribly bloodied himself good while shaving and spent the day wearing the mask at work.  He came down with an infection on his face that required antibiotics.

Did he wear a band aid? Did he put antibiotic lotion on his terrible cut? Did he clean his mask or put on a new/clean one?
Unless he did these things, the fault is his, not the mask's. Being dumb is not a medical condition.

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 15, 2020, 03:42:57 PM
Thanks for the qualifiers  ;)

You're welcome. I wrote the exact same thing in the earlier post.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Pakuni on July 15, 2020, 04:17:14 PM
Being dumb is not a medical condition.

Yes, but I'm hopeful some day we'll have a vaccine for that!

Jockey

Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 15, 2020, 03:10:09 PM
Saw an interview of a group down in Florida protesting masks saying "my body my right" I don't think they picked up on the hilarious irony

Yes, I noticed all those people marching recently protesting seatbelts.

Yes, I know you were referring to abortion.

shoothoops

San Diego, California (Stay Classy)

Denied service at Starbucks, a pelvic exam, a chiropractor, $100,000, education and dancing.....if you had all that on today's segment of wear a mask, you are in luck:

https://www.fox4now.com/news/national/woman-who-refused-to-wear-mask-wants-half-of-100k-donated-to-starbucks-barista

Cfollow


rocky_warrior

#137
Quote from: Cfollow on July 15, 2020, 08:52:34 PM
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data

By all means wear a mask every second you leave the house.

1) from Apr 1!
2) "perspective", "commentary" - not science
3) actually science, published 3 months later: https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/efficacy-facemasks-coronavirus.php
4) but since you seem to respect Dr Brosseau, here's some of her more recent commentary: https://www.boston25news.com/news/health/aerosol-covid-19-transmission-could-impact-reopenings/S2ZPLRHDKNA3ZH5XRWIQRMAC2A/

Hards Alumni

Quote from: rocky_warrior on July 15, 2020, 09:36:58 PM
1) from Apr 1!
2) "perspective", "commentary" - not science
3) actually science, published 3 months later: https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/efficacy-facemasks-coronavirus.php
4) but since you seem to respect Dr Brosseau, here's some of her more recent commentary: https://www.boston25news.com/news/health/aerosol-covid-19-transmission-could-impact-reopenings/S2ZPLRHDKNA3ZH5XRWIQRMAC2A/

Hold up, Cfollow is a scientist.  Let's allow him to explain himself.

Jockey

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 15, 2020, 10:15:56 PM
Hold up, Cfollow is a scientist.  Let's allow him to explain himself.

Actually, I think it was his dad who was a scientist.  ;D ;D

Warriors4ever

Well if Amber had a fibroid in 2015 large enough to cause a breathing problem, one presumes it would have been taken care of by now. 
I can't speak to asthma, but certainly mask acne would not qualify for a medical exemption. 
And a chiropractor writes a handwritten note that says contact me if you have any questions, but then won't actually answer any questions? Then why did he say to contact him? 

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Pakuni on July 15, 2020, 04:17:14 PM
Did he wear a band aid? Did he put antibiotic lotion on his terrible cut? Did he clean his mask or put on a new/clean one?
Unless he did these things, the fault is his, not the mask's. Being dumb is not a medical condition.

Pak,
I totally agree.  He is supposed to be visiting my location this week and we already collectively decided to break his stones about it because it never should have happened.

shoothoops

#142
Georgia Governor Brian Kemp bans masks in 15 local Georgia governments:

https://apnews.com/71bc07efaebc1b2d3b9aaf9bdc795d5d?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

Warriors4ever

Kemp is waiting for Trump's demeanor to change in a press conference again. Or perhaps he still doesn't actually realize that it is spread person-to-person. Or he just wants to kill his own constituents. Who knows.

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass


MarquetteDano

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 16, 2020, 08:06:16 AM

This is the dumbest thing I ever heard.  FFS.

If Georgia was its own country (no pun intended!),  at 77.7 years life expectancy it would rank 60th in the world with neighbors Thailand, Ecuador,  Colombia, and Bosnia.

Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 16, 2020, 08:06:16 AM

This is the dumbest thing I ever heard.  FFS.

Obviously you have never heard of a guy named trump. Mainlining bleach ring a bell?

pbiflyer


The Lens

He is an idiot but let's not just post he banned masks.  What he did is void / ban the mandatory order and then tepidly said he encouraged people to wear them.   

QuoteGeorgia's Gov. Brian Kemp is explicitly banning Georgia's cities and counties from ordering people to wear masks in public places. He voided orders on Wednesday that at least 15 local governments across the state had adopted even though Kemp had earlier said cities and counties had no power to order masks.

An increasing number of other states order residents to wear masks in public, including Alabama, which announced such a ban Wednesday.

The Republican governor has instead been trying to encourage voluntary mask wearing, including telling fans that reduced infections from mask-wearing would make college football season possible.

Kemp's move is likely to infuriate local officials in communities that had acted, including Atlanta, Augusta, Savannah, Rome and the governor's hometown of Athens-Clarke County. Overall, mask orders by Wednesday were covering 1.4 million of Georgia's more than 10 million residents.
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