Racism at Talladega

[4everwarriors]

Crean sucks

[rocket surgeon]

Uhhhh...your greatest fear was that it was a misunderstanding and not a deliberate act???  😳😳😳

you know what i mean sully my greatest fear are the knee jerk reactions and assuming guilt before innocence.  my greatest fear is how the innocent police are being treated and the illiterate protesters taking down every statue they know nothing about.  didn't they read the plaques next to the statues first or can they not read either

[mu03eng]

you know what i mean sully my greatest fear are the knee jerk reactions and assuming guilt before innocence.  my greatest fear is how the innocent police are being treated and the illiterate protesters taking down every statue they know nothing about.  didn't they read the plaques next to the statues first or can they not read either

Seriously, GTFO. Like, I'm not kidding. I've sat on the sidelines while you've done your schtick taking a let bygones be bygones approach but this post is the end for me. At best you are an intentional provocateur who is an a$$hole and at worst you're a closet racist....no matter where you sit on that spectrum you don't have a place in this forum IMHO.

[shoothoops]

This is nothing like Smollett.

The amount of racists exposing themselves on social media today about this. Yipes.

This below is a photo taken this week from Talladega:

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

you know what i mean sully my greatest fear are the knee jerk reactions and assuming guilt before innocence.  my greatest fear is how the innocent police are being treated and the illiterate protesters taking down every statue they know nothing about.  didn't they read the plaques next to the statues first or can they not read either

Um. What?

No one was assumed guilty in this incident. Not one single person was accused.

So why are you dragging your other talking points here?  This topic has nothing to do with statues. Did you even read it?  Or can't you read either?

[wadesworld]

your "greatest fear"??  seriously?  drama much?  my greatest fear is what just happened.  everyone jumped to concusions until the whole story was out and if anyone even dared to question it...well we all know how that goes. 

  nads, as a former "journalist" you should know better

The confederate flag being flown overhead and wanting to "bring back NASCAR" was probably just a misunderstanding by libs jumping to conclusions too fast.

[mu03eng]

I will say, if the reporting is accurate, this is a very positive sign for society. Whoever discovered the garage door pull probably would have walked past it 3 months ago without giving it a second thought but the fact that they thought enough to surface it is great. That is an example of being aware of your unconcious bias.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Seriously, GTFO. Like, I'm not kidding. I've sat on the sidelines while you've done your schtick taking a let bygones be bygones approach but this post is the end for me. At best you are an intentional provocateur who is an a$$hole and at worst you're a closet racist....no matter where you sit on that spectrum you don't have a place in this forum IMHO.

Closet?  I think he's been out for quite a while.

Otherwise, BRAVO!!

[MU82]

your "greatest fear"??  seriously?  drama much?  my greatest fear is what just happened.  everyone jumped to concusions until the whole story was out and if anyone even dared to question it...well we all know how that goes. 

  nads, as a former "journalist" you should know better

Who jumped to conclusions in accusing anybody?

I know enough to know what you are.

There. NOW I've accused somebody.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Seriously, GTFO. Like, I'm not kidding. I've sat on the sidelines while you've done your schtick taking a let bygones be bygones approach but this post is the end for me. At best you are an intentional provocateur who is an a$$hole and at worst you're a closet racist....no matter where you sit on that spectrum you don't have a place in this forum IMHO.

No, that would require a brain capable of reason and planning. He's just a dumbass that regurgitates whatever he hears on Fox and Limbaugh.

[Lennys Tap]

I will say, if the reporting is accurate, this is a very positive sign for society. Whoever discovered the garage door pull probably would have walked past it 3 months ago without giving it a second thought but the fact that they thought enough to surface it is great. That is an example of being aware of your unconcious bias.

I don't know, Eng. Maybe you're right, but when a garage door pull rope that's been in place forever is assumed to be a noose because a black man is using the garage I'm not sure that's something to celebrate.

[rocky_warrior]

I don't know, Eng. Maybe you're right, but when a garage door pull rope that's been in place forever is assumed to be a noose because a black man is using the garage I'm not sure that's something to celebrate.

I think you've got that wrong.  It was a noose.  That was being used as a garage door pull. 
"The FBI report concludes, and photographic evidence confirms, that the garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose had been positioned there since as early as last fall."

And last fall is hardly "forever".

[Lennys Tap]

I think you've got that wrong.  It was a noose.  That was being used as a garage door pull. 
"The FBI report concludes, and photographic evidence confirms, that the garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose had been positioned there since as early as last fall."

And last fall is hardly "forever".

I was unaware that the rope was fashioned like a noose. Of course that changes things. Apologies.

[Pakuni]

In the meantime....

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nascar/news/bubba-wallace-noose-mike-skinner/tl4wwe3qo3ih1k3jmrf64w62w

[The Lens]

I have severe guilt for not driving to Oklahoma to help my brother move out following an ugly divorce.  Finding this MFer and beating the crap out might help me.

[MU82]

In the meantime....

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nascar/news/bubba-wallace-noose-mike-skinner/tl4wwe3qo3ih1k3jmrf64w62w

Perfect.

For the same people who think Obama's election "proves" there's no such thing as systemic racism in America, the fact that there really wasn't a noose placed in Bubba Wallace's garage as a racist statement or threat "proves" that racism isn't really an issue at all anymore.

Except you have thousands - maybe millions - of people just like this arse-wipe, who blames Wallace for having "singlehandedly destroyed" NASCAR and who wishes they would have tied the noose to Wallace "and drug him around the pits."

As disgusting as that seems, it's OK ... once called out, he later said he "loves everyone" and "this was not about race at all." So again, America's all good on the race issue.

[mu03eng]

I think you've got that wrong.  It was a noose.  That was being used as a garage door pull. 
"The FBI report concludes, and photographic evidence confirms, that the garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose had been positioned there since as early as last fall."

And last fall is hardly "forever".

I'm not entirely convinced it was "fashioned" as a noose....the noose knot is a self-constricting knot(which is why it's used the way it is) not sure why a garage pull would be tied in that type of knot unless you wanted to re-tie it every day. A bowline would be a much more appropriate knot.

*as an Eagle Scout and avid sailor I know lots of things about knots

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Perfect.

For the same people who think Obama's election "proves" there's no such thing as systemic racism in America, the fact that there really wasn't a noose placed in Bubba Wallace's garage as a racist statement or threat "proves" that racism isn't really an issue at all anymore.

Except you have thousands - maybe millions - of people just like this arse-wipe, who blames Wallace for having "singlehandedly destroyed" NASCAR and who wishes they would have tied the noose to Wallace "and drug him around the pits."

As disgusting as that seems, it's OK ... once called out, he later said he "loves everyone" and "this was not about race at all." So again, America's all good on the race issue.

Bubba Wallace is responsible for restrictor plates and bland tracks?

[shoothoops]

The video making the rounds on early morning television clearly shows a noose hanging in a stall. It could not possibly be mistaken for anything else.

[MU82]

Bubba Wallace is responsible for restrictor plates and bland tracks?

And all left turns. You know dem "marxists."

[warriorchick]

The video making the rounds on early morning television clearly shows a noose hanging in a stall. It could not possibly be mistaken for anything else.

So someone did this eight months ago hoping that it would go unnoticed until Bubba Wallace was randowmly assigned this garage?

[cheebs09]

So someone did this eight months ago hoping that Bubba Wallace would eventually be assigned this garage?

At least my understanding is that it's now not about targeting Wallace. The question is more about why was there a rope tied like a noose in the first place.

Some say this is pretty common in NASCAR garages to pull the garage door. If so, why did the FBI need to be involved? There are still a lot of questions with this one.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

So someone did this eight months ago hoping that it would go unnoticed until Bubba Wallace was randowmly assigned this garage?

Of course not.  I can however see why this happened.  If Im Bubba, I am totally on edge/lookout.

I have to say though - it looks like a noose.  Why did someone do that and why did no one take it down?

[shoothoops]

So someone did this eight months ago hoping that it would go unnoticed until Bubba Wallace was randowmly assigned this garage?

No. My understanding is that this (noose for door pulls) may have been something that has existed in Nascar in general. ...such as Confederate Flags etc....I don't think it appears Wallace was targeted, but it appears at least to an extent, that having a noose as a door pull ir whatever reason was not out of the question in Nascar. And similar to other racist symbols it needs to go.

Perhaps this was put there in general with malicious intent. Perhaps it was put there with ignorance to its symbolism and representation. It doesn't matter.

In this situation, someone other than Wallace saw it and reacted accordingly. Hopefully the solution is that we don't see or hear of a noose in Nascar (or anywhere else) moving forward.

[warriorchick]

No. My understanding is that this (noose for door pulls) may have been something that has existed in Nascar in general. ...such as Confederate Flags etc....I don't think it appears Wallace was targeted, but it appears at least to an extent, that having a noose as a door pull ir whatever reason was not out of the question in Nascar. And similar to other racist symbols it needs to go.

Perhaps this was put there in general with malicious intent. Perhaps it was put there with ignorance to its symbolism and representation. It doesn't matter.

In this situation, someone other than Wallace saw it and reacted accordingly. Hopefully the solution is that we don't see or hear of a noose in Nascar (or anywhere else) moving forward.

I am certainly not defending the practice, but if that is the case, why has this never been brought up before like the Confederate flags were?  No one thought, "Hey, as long as we are getting rid of racist symbols, let's lose all the noose garage door pulls?"

Also, if it were a common practice, no one said, "Oh, yeah, I forgot that people do this.  Let's get rid of it"? Instead, they immediately call the FBI?