Racism at Talladega

[Galway Eagle]

I know this is only tangentially related to your point, but I have seen more stars and bars than I would have expected prior to moving to CT.  Just reinforces that we all have a problem here...its not just the cities, the south or fill in your personal location.

Part of me wonders if this is the result of families moving all over the country. I mean to southerners whose families have been in the states since the mid 1800s or even earlier I'm sure to them it's no different than an Irish flag or Italian flag hanging outside your door/bumper sticker/tattoo. Doesn't make it less racist or change the connotation around it but maybe that's why you see it around the northern states now.

My other theory is that people who live in more country towns identify the confederate flag as more of a flag showing country pride to separate themselves of the majority of city & suburban individuals around the country. 

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Part of me wonders if this is the result of families moving all over the country. I mean to southerners whose families have been in the states since the mid 1800s or even earlier I'm sure to them it's no different than an Irish flag or Italian flag hanging outside your door/bumper sticker/tattoo. Doesn't make it less racist or change the connotation around it but maybe that's why you see it around the northern states now.

The individual living across the street from my inlaws doesnt fit into this bucket.  It's more what MUFan referenced.

Conversely on topic, the racing culture here, particularly in northern CT, southern Mass into NH is rabid.  Moreso than some places in the south where I've lived. 

[Galway Eagle]

The individual living across the street from my inlaws doesnt fit into this bucket.  It's more what MUFan referenced.

Conversely on topic, the racing culture here, particularly in northern CT, southern Mass into NH is rabid.  Moreso than some places in the south where I've lived.

Hmm well it was just a theory to give the benefit of the doubt. And yeah I dated a girl from Dorchester in Boston for years and her family was unbelievably racist so I fully believe it when you say it's bad in those areas.

[warriorchick]

Hmm well it was just a theory to give the benefit of the doubt. And yeah I dated a girl from Dorchester in Boston for years and her family was unbelievably racist so I fully believe it when you say it's bad in those areas.

Um, yeah.  You are too young to remember when they integrated Boston schools, but that was about as horrible a display of outright racism as I have ever seen, and I grew up in Tennessee.

[mu03eng]

Point of order, the primary flag that people think with the Confederacy is not the stars and bars(that was the national flag of the Confederacy). It is the Confederate Battle Flag and/or flag of the Army of Northern Virginia(Army that Lee eventually commanded).

[Hards Alumni]

Point of order, the primary flag that people think with the Confederacy is not the stars and bars(that was the national flag of the Confederacy). It is the Confederate Battle Flag and/or flag of the Army of Northern Virginia(Army that Lee eventually commanded).

Ah, you mean the flag that Georgia simply added a state seal to and called it a day is the actual flag of the Confederacy?  And this flag was adopted in 2003?

At this point, the FotANV is the true symbol of the traitorous past that racists use as a beacon that shines a light their bigotry.

[Billy Hoyle]

Um, yeah.  You are too young to remember when they integrated Boston schools, but that was about as horrible a display of outright racism as I have ever seen, and I grew up in Tennessee.

It's still bad. Just read the comments from black MLB players. Torii Hunter had a no-trade clause to Boston because of the racism.

[#UnleashSean]

Well, I had a feeling this was going to end like Jussie Smollett since it just seemed to perfect.

Apparently it was half true.

[mu03eng]

Someone want to explain in small sentences why there was a rope in a noose "shape" in the garage at any point in time?

[Mr. Nielsen]

"The FBI has completed its investigation at Talladega Superspeedway and determined that Bubba Wallace was not the target of a hate crime. The FBI report concludes, and photographic evidence confirms, that the garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose had been positioned there since as early as last fall. This was obviously well before the 43 team's arrival and garage assignment. We appreciate the FBI's quick and thorough investigation and are thankful to learn that this was not an intentional, racist act against Bubba. We remain steadfast in our commitment to providing a welcoming and inclusive environment for all who love racing."

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Did I hear this right?  Apparently Wallace didn't see it or report it. It was a NASCAR official that did.

[CreightonWarrior]

Someone want to explain in small sentences why there was a rope in a noose "shape" in the garage at any point in time?

To open the door it was attached to?

[keefe]

One interesting thing about the South, they refuse to believe they lost the Civil War.

William Faulkner would find that amusing

[jesmu84]

Well, I had a feeling this was going to end like Jussie Smollett since it just seemed to perfect.

Apparently it was half true.

So you're saying bubba faked the whole thing?

[JWags85]

A very illuminating distinction is paying attention to people who are using this as an opportunity to slam Bubba Wallace.

Or commenting on the "dog and pony show" or whatever stupid name they give the show of solidarity yesterday.

Instead of being relieved that it may not be as deliberate and heinous of a racist act, it's being used as a springboard for "everyone is overreacting to racism, snowflakes"

[MU82]

Nothing like Smollett. Nothing.

But this does give racists cover to come out of the woodwork now.

[jesmu84]

A very illuminating distinction is paying attention to people who are using this as an opportunity to slam Bubba Wallace.

Or commenting on the "dog and pony show" or whatever stupid name they give the show of solidarity yesterday.

Instead of being relieved that it may not be as deliberate and heinous of a racist act, it's being used as a springboard for "everyone is overreacting to racism, snowflakes"

That's my great fear about this outcome.

[#UnleashSean]

So you're saying bubba faked the whole thing?

Where did I ever say that?

[warriorchick]

Where did I ever say that?

When you said you had a feeling that it would end like Jussie Smollett.

[rocket surgeon]

That's my great fear about this outcome.

your "greatest fear"??  seriously?  drama much?  my greatest fear is what just happened.  everyone jumped to concusions until the whole story was out and if anyone even dared to question it...well we all know how that goes. 

  nads, as a former "journalist" you should know better

[#UnleashSean]

When you said you had a feeling that it would end like Jussie Smollett.

I said I had my suspecions about that. It all seemed to be to perfect, like Smollett.

I then stated it was half true, since a Nascar official freaked over a simple pull rope.

Never once did I say Wallace went and planted it, and then claimed it was a noose. I said it was very suspicious it would happen.

[jesmu84]

your "greatest fear"??  seriously?  drama much?  my greatest fear is what just happened.  everyone jumped to concusions until the whole story was out and if anyone even dared to question it...well we all know how that goes. 

  nads, as a former "journalist" you should know better

Yes. Because now some will use this an an example/excuse to undercut real/serious issues that exist

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I said I had my suspecions about that. It all seemed to be to perfect, like Smollett.

I then stated it was half true, since a Nascar official freaked over a simple pull rope.

Never once did I say Wallace went and planted it, and then claimed it was a noose. I said it was very suspicious it would happen.

Jayce you should choose your words more carefully.  Smollette faked it.  You implied it was half faked with the words you used. I am sure you didn't mean to imply this but it is very easy to come to the conclusion above with the words you chose

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

your "greatest fear"??  seriously?  drama much?  my greatest fear is what just happened.  everyone jumped to concusions until the whole story was out and if anyone even dared to question it...well we all know how that goes. 

  nads, as a former "journalist" you should know better

Uhhhh...your greatest fear was that it was a misunderstanding and not a deliberate act???  😳😳😳

[real chili 83]

I'm getting the popcorn out for the remainder of this thread.