Sweden?

[MU82]

"the modern U.S. right doesn't believe in evidence-based policy, it believes in policy-based evidence"

What a great line.

[Uncle Rico]

From Paul Krugman/NYT (the source itself being enough to send guru et al into an apoplectic rage):

"One of the odder twists in the terrible saga of America's failed Covid-19 response was the way the Trump administration and many U.S. conservatives fell briefly in love with Sweden. Yes, that Sweden, where universal health care is mostly provided directly by the government, where taxes take 44 percent of G.D.P. compared with just 24 percent here, where two-thirds of the work force is unionized.

"Most of the time, in other words, Sweden is an example of everything conservatives hate; its very existence is a rebuttal to their claims that low taxes and harsh treatment of the poor are essential to prosperity.

But in this year of Covid, Sweden chose a different path from other European countries. Where its neighbors were imposing lockdowns to limit the spread of the coronavirus, Sweden chose to follow a strategy of "herd immunity" — letting the virus spread in the belief that once enough people had been infected and developed antibodies, the pandemic would burn out of its own accord."

<snip>

"I do know that the U.S. right seized on the Swedish example, because the Swedes were doing what they themselves wanted to do about the coronavirus — nothing."

<snip>

So it was with Sweden's pandemic response. Conservatives — most notably Dr. Scott Atlas, the not-an-epidemiologist from the Hoover Institution who has become Donald Trump's main coronavirus adviser — rushed to embrace the Swedish model. Atlas was praising Sweden as recently as late last month.

Meanwhile, however, the Swedes themselves are tacitly admitting that they made a terrible mistake."

<snip>

"Then the fall came, and Sweden is in fact having a second wave — much worse than the wave in its neighbors. And on Monday the nation imposed substantial new restrictions on public gatherings, although it's still balking at a broader lockdown.

Unfortunately, I don't think the failure of the Swedish model will change many minds here. As some wag put it, the modern U.S. right doesn't believe in evidence-based policy, it believes in policy-based evidence: seizing on or, if necessary, inventing facts that seem to support what it wants to do anyway."

Guru is arguing with people on Twitter about Dominion.  He's moved past fake diseases

[The Sultan]

Guru is arguing with people on Twitter about Dominion.  He's moved past fake diseases

Lol. Of course.

[MU82]

Guru is arguing with people on Twitter about Dominion.  He's moved past fake diseases

Meanwhile, his banana republic dictator wannabe just fired  the top official responsible for securing the election -- a guy who had the temerity to say that facts showed the election was secure.

[tower912]

Royalty has tested positive.

[Jockey]

Guru is arguing with people on Twitter about Dominion.  He's moved past fake diseases

Isn't Guru the guy that was complaining that he couldn't find a women?

[Uncle Rico]

Isn't Guru the guy that was complaining that he couldn't find a women?

Well, not one that can match his demands

[Pakuni]

I think we can close the book on Sweden having it right.

Evan Siegfried @evansiegfried
Sweden tried to achieve herd immunity through no lockdowns, restrictions or masking. Last week, they hit 7,000 deaths. Denmark, Finland and Norway, all similar-sized countries who instituted safety measures, have just 878, 415 and 354. Herd immunity failed

https://www.wsj.com/articles/long-a-holdout-from-covid-19-restrictions-sweden-ends-its-pandemic-experiment-11607261658

[tower912]

Neighboring countries offering hospital beds as Swedish hospitals overwhelmed.   Reminds me of another country without a national plan.

[GooooMarquette]

Neighboring countries offering hospital beds as Swedish hospitals overwhelmed.   Reminds me of another country without a national plan.

Who could possibly have seen that coming?

[tower912]

Almost every rational person of average intelligence.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/sweden-s-neighbours-offer-them-emergency-help-as-its-hospitals-fill-up-with-coronavirus-patients/ar-BB1bUCJw

[Warriors4ever]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55347021

King Carl Gustav considers Sweden's strategy to be a failure.

[tower912]

Any rational person considers Sweden's strategy to be a failure.

[Pakuni]

Anyone still touting the Sweden model?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/half-sweden-decided-not-lock-115500722.html

[pbiflyer]

Anyone still touting the Sweden model?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/half-sweden-decided-not-lock-115500722.html

Obviously they didn't distribute enough horse meds.