US postal service

[tower912]

And he doesn't say what you claim he did.     Learning to live with it.       And as I watched and listened, I think my statement that 'cure' is shorthand for treatment and vaccine is valid.   

[JWags85]

 

My friends are Chinese doctors in Flushing,  NYC.  They have patients in nursing homes. 
Yes it is that bad in Elmhurst General.  "Plague level",  as you say.  From personal experience I know that Italy was even worse.

I live in a rural area, much different vibe.   Now about flying back to Bergamo?   UNITED has canceled the direct flight from Newark, UA19.  They offer a flight to Frankfort, UA 960, which last night was 20% subscribed.  Then a layover, then a flight to Milan, then on to Bergamo.  20 hrs., unstainable.

No lockdown involved, no government officials involved, it is just the old supply and demand economics at work.  I don't need to be on the dole to fly or not to fly.   I'm no Chicken Little my friend, just writing some very uncomfortable facts.

I think it unfortunate that you chose the word dole.  I guess you have never been poor, good for you.

Its funny, you and others rip on Chicos for "someone I know" counters to expert stats and figures (for good reason), yet you can turn right around and say its far worse than published mortality rates from countless countries and disease centers because you know people.  Can't have it both ways.  And apparently facts are only relevant if they are your own uncomfortable facts.  If 10 out of every 100 people of a given demographic succumb to COVID across hundreds of thousands of cases, and thats what I'm going off of, you're not suddenly much more realistic and informed with your "uncomfortable facts" based on your vague small samples around you.

You're 40 years older than me.  I know nothing of your health, but know I feature none of the comorbidities and in particular have excellent cardiovascular conditioning from the life Ive lived the last decade plus.  So my view of risk and concern is different than yours.  Which is fine, but apparently not to you. 

And I spoke nothing of poverty.  I spoke of "dole", aka government benefits given to the unemployed, which in your apparent inevitable meteoric approaching socialist reality, coupled with the Black Death all but a few like you apparently truly understand, would apply to many "non-poor" who no longer have jobs to go to cause they are not allowed or they work in travel and entertainment, which apparently no longer will exist.

JWags85 can join them, but I would wager they are not flying.

Oh good.  Glad you waded into the BS tribalism of "this person doesn't happily agree with me, so I'll automatically lump them in other people I don't agree with.  In a tone ripe with condescension. Don't call me "friend" in any further posts, cause my friends, of all ages, don't feel the need to lord their experience and "knowledge" over me.

And I plan on flying as soon as necessitates.  Perhaps back to Wisconsin, though I may drive if my GF comes along.  I'll wear a mask and sanitize often.  I'm far from a hypocrite, shocking to your worldview im sure.

[WarriorDad]

And he doesn't say what you claim he did.     Learning to live with it.       And as I watched and listened, I think my statement that 'cure' is shorthand for treatment and vaccine is valid.   

He said cure.  The articles on this subject say the same thing As they quote him.  Cure is not the same thing as vaccine, he says cure before that city is fully opened up.

[vogue65]

Good morning Wisconsin.
Love to all the shut- in's, and lefouts.

Anyone have anything nice to say this morning?
A non political, non conspiratorial, non spiteful or angry comment.

Is there any humble gratitude in the house this morning?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

The sun is shining. Got some yard work ahead of me and a pork loin to grill tonight. Probably going to stop by my favorite microbrew and pick up a six pack. While wearing a mask of course!

[jesmu84]

The sun is shining. Got some yard work ahead of me and a pork loin to grill tonight. Probably going to stop by my favorite microbrew and pick up a six pack. While wearing a mask of course!

Sounds like a solid day.

Thank your postal worker if you see them.

[vogue65]

Sounds like a solid day.

Thank your postal worker if you see them.

 

Thank you guys/gals.  Picked up my meds. at the post office, it was closing time, but the worker went to the back to fetch my meds..  They know we care and they reciprocate.
BTW, the meds. were from the V.A., another great government service.

Now for my Risotto, prepared by my wife.  Lots to be grateful about. 

[vogue65]

Today a United Parcel box truck was at my post office, what's that about?  Is that socialism or capitalism?  It's the new world.

[shoothoops]

Today a United Parcel box truck was at my post office, what's that about?  Is that socialism or capitalism?  It's the new world.

The United States Post Office has been delivering packages for UPS, Fed Ex etc...for many years. Nothing new here.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Today a United Parcel box truck was at my post office, what's that about?  Is that socialism or capitalism?  It's the new world.

UPS and fedex do the long hauling and USPS finishes the local delivery.

[rocket surgeon]

"BTW, the meds. were from the V.A., another great government service."

  prolly couldn't say that too loud 3 1/2 years ago...hopefully they didn't come from tomah, wi. V.A. 

[vogue65]

The United States Post Office has been delivering packages for UPS, Fed Ex etc...for many years. Nothing new here.

hi

What's new is that now it is BIG political issue. 

[shoothoops]

hi

What's new is that now it is BIG political issue.

Your post mentioned the truck and asked what it was about and called it the new world...

Is it new that a political party used a $900 million profitable enterprise as political issue? Unions, black people, wealthy GOP private business execs.

[vogue65]

Your post mentioned the truck and asked what it was about and called it the new world...

Is it new that a political party used a $900 million profitable enterprise as political issue? Unions, black people, wealthy GOP private business execs.

We are led around by political operatives.  Non issues are elevated for political gain.  Now everything seems to be a conspiracy and everyone has a strongly held opinion without any understanding of the facts or process.

Who around here has any idea of how the office of an Inspector General works?  What do they do?

I have been under investigation twice, no problem, it is how the system works.  What does the General Accountability Office do?   Who cares, don't bother us with the facts, we have our opinions and our political issues. 

[shoothoops]

We are led around by political operatives.  Non issues are elevated for political gain.  Now everything seems to be a conspiracy and everyone has a strongly held opinion without any understanding of the facts or process.

Who around here has any idea of how the office of an Inspector General works?  What do they do?

I have been under investigation twice, no problem, it is how the system works.  What does the General Accountability Office do?   Who cares, don't bother us with the facts, we have our opinions and our political issues.

The United States Post Office had a $900 million profit before Congress passed legislation that it prefunds USPS retirement for 75 years, a requirement for no other government entity. Those are facts, not conspiracy, not opinion. The USPS is a public service and it was doing just fine before this.

[vogue65]

The United States Post Office had a $900 million profit before Congress passed legislation that it prefunds USPS retirement for 75 years, a requirement for no other government entity. Those are facts, not conspiracy, not opinion. The USPS is a public service and it was doing just fine before this.

ERISA does not apply to government plans.  Therefore, no funding requirements.
Without funding requirements most government sponsored plans have fallen behind over time.   It is not the benefits that cause the problem it is the performance of the investments and the lack of funding.

However, government plans are favorite whippingboys for right wing politicians. 

These days it is hard to seperate truth and reality from propaganda, myth, and conspiracy.  Enjoy the race to the bottom.

[shoothoops]

ERISA does not apply to government plans.  Therefore, no funding requirements.
Without funding requirements most government sponsored plans have fallen behind over time.   It is not the benefits that cause the problem it is the performance of the investments and the lack of funding.

However, government plans are favorite whippingboys for right wing politicians. 

These days it is hard to seperate truth and reality from propaganda, myth, and conspiracy.  Enjoy the race to the bottom.

The USPS was up 6.1% or $1.3 billion in package shipping this past year. It has to follow high costs set by Congress. Yet it is still successful. One aspect of the 2006 Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act made it illegal for the Postal Service to price parcel delivery below its cost.

Also in the 2006 Act, it was required that the USPS establish a fund for Postal Service retiree benefits and, that it required prepayments for many decades. It paid $5 billion per year plus from 2007-2017. Before this it was pay as you go. No other Federal agency requires a similar pre-funding mandate. Private companies do not require 100% pre-funding. The Postal Service would have posted operating profits without the mandate. This takes away the USPS ability to spend money elsewhere, modernize, etc...capital investments.

ERISA is about pensions. The 2006 Act was about pre-funding many decades of retiree health benefits.

[vogue65]

You are correct, ERISA does not cover post retirement benefits including health. 
I wonder how many rank and file workers know that.

Pay as you go makes sense for government organizations because they are assumed to be around for the long term and the government can tax.

Which brings the convetsation to national health care.  It is only a matter of time, the clock is ticking.

If a corporation has a large funded healthcare program and they decide to end the program, who gets the money?  The corporation, no ERISA, tough tootsie.

[warriorchick]

Pay as you go makes sense for government organizations because they are assumed to be around for the long term and the government can tax.

That strategy is certainly working for Illinois.

[shoothoops]

Postal Service update:

https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1289163999553171456?s=19

[ATL MU Warrior]

Postal Service update:

https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1289163999553171456?s=19

Shocking. Trump knows vote by mail will be huge so he ruins the ability to vote by mail. More voter suppression.

[Jockey]

Shocking. Trump knows vote by mail will be huge so he ruins the ability to vote by mail. More voter suppression.

I wrote at the beginning of this thread that they were trying to undermine the Post Office. Took a lot of flak.

It was a fact years ago and it is still a fact. The only difference is that lawlessness doesn't matter to a certain president. In fact, he embraces it.

[rocket surgeon]

I wrote at the beginning of this thread that they were trying to undermine the Post Office. Took a lot of flak.

It was a fact years ago and it is still a fact. The only difference is that lawlessness doesn't matter to a certain president. In fact, he embraces it.

  some just can't help themselves anymore...covid thread let ya'll go political.  now it's bleeding over to other threads and you guys make your snide comments typing with one hand and throwing the dirty bird with the other.  i get a little zinger here and there, but, the minute anyone tries to challenge you guys here, the thread goes ballistic from the left, it gets shut down and the blame is on the meat boys...

[tower912]

Great point, rocket.  Please make the case that it isn't political.    How it is actually moving the country forward.   Please.

[Jockey]

Trump suing to ban Post Office from using drop boxes. Trying to rig election.