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ZiggysFryBoy

#3775
I'm dusting off old memories, but I think that there are different rules/laws for different sized companies.   FMLA type laws.  I'm sure someone will know.  But I'm guessing that the 100 EE threshold is tied to some kind of labor/workplace oversight.

ETA: looks like this is under OSHA.

🏀

Wow. Any company, OSHA enforced. Love it.

tower912

#3777
6 months late.   But, he tried the carrot first, assuming most people were rational and would act in their enlightened self interest.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.


Boozemon Barro

Everyone who isn't vaccinated should be thrown in jail. Ugh!

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on September 09, 2021, 03:54:24 PM
what do they say about santa claus and the easter bunny?
Per snopes, they are as real as HCQ and ivermectin are as COVID treatments.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Boozemon Barro on September 09, 2021, 05:42:10 PM
Everyone who isn't vaccinated should be thrown in jail. Ugh!
Nah, just conform to this workplace requirement just like every other workplace requirement.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

4everwarriors

Wee gonna expand gubment bye creatin' da covid poolice, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

jesmu84

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on September 09, 2021, 04:35:13 PM
I'm dusting off old memories, but I think that there are different rules/laws for different sized companies.   FMLA type laws.  I'm sure someone will know.  But I'm guessing that the 100 EE threshold is tied to some kind of labor/workplace oversight.

ETA: looks like this is under OSHA.

OSHA came in to our hospital a couple months ago to restart screening protocols. After all local/state health departments said it was okay to stop. And, being OSHA, this isn't to protect guests/patients, it's to protect the workers of the hospital.

Why did they sit on their hands for 18 months?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 09, 2021, 06:19:28 PM
Wee gonna expand gubment bye creatin' da covid poolice, hey?

No, Mexico is going to take care of it
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 09, 2021, 06:19:28 PM
Wee gonna expand gubment bye creatin' da covid poolice, hey?

Probably more useful than Space Force.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 09, 2021, 06:19:28 PM
Wee gonna expand gubment bye creatin' da covid poolice, hey?

the comatose dude with the ice cream cone and brain freeze(mutually exclusive btw) says this probably ain't going to hold up in court...then goes ahead and mandates it anyway.  and #45 was the tyrant? 
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on September 09, 2021, 07:13:43 PM
the comatose dude with the ice cream cone and brain freeze(mutually exclusive btw) says this probably ain't going to hold up in court...then goes ahead and mandates it anyway.  and #45 was the tyrant?

9 of 10, more electric work.  No air quotes stops you short of a 10
Guster is for Lovers

naginiF

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 09, 2021, 07:18:56 PM
9 of 10, more electric work.  No air quotes stops you short of a 10
I was going to argue that you grade too easy but then I realized he doesn't know what the definition of a tyrant is so I can see the 9.

4everwarriors

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on September 09, 2021, 07:13:43 PM
the comatose dude with the ice cream cone and brain freeze(mutually exclusive btw) says this probably ain't going to hold up in court...then goes ahead and mandates it anyway.  and #45 was the tyrant?



Ya gotta 'cuse Full Diaper 'cuz, you know, he's got stutterin' issues, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 09, 2021, 07:39:21 PM


Ya gotta 'cuse Full Diaper 'cuz, you know, he's got stutterin' issues, aina?

😂😂😂
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

@FrankLuntz: Swing-state poll of employer vax mandates

𝗔𝗿𝗶𝘇𝗼𝗻𝗮
• Favor: 68%
• Oppose: 32

𝗚𝗲𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗶𝗮
• Favor: 63%
• Oppose: 37

𝗠𝗶𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗮𝗻
• Favor: 61%
• Oppose: 39

𝗣𝗲𝗻𝗻𝘀𝘆𝗹𝘃𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗮
• Favor: 64%
• Oppose: 36

𝗪𝗶𝘀𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗻
• Favor: 68%
• Oppose: 32 https://twitter.com/steveschale/status/1436060909470879749

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on September 09, 2021, 08:40:21 PM
@FrankLuntz: Swing-state poll of employer vax mandates

𝗔𝗿𝗶𝘇𝗼𝗻𝗮
• Favor: 68%
• Oppose: 32

𝗚𝗲𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗶𝗮
• Favor: 63%
• Oppose: 37

𝗠𝗶𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗮𝗻
• Favor: 61%
• Oppose: 39

𝗣𝗲𝗻𝗻𝘀𝘆𝗹𝘃𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗮
• Favor: 64%
• Oppose: 36

𝗪𝗶𝘀𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗻
• Favor: 68%
• Oppose: 32 https://twitter.com/steveschale/status/1436060909470879749

Now we know why Rs are against it. They are on the wrong side of every issue, but through gerrymandering and minority rule are able to do what they want. That, and a complete lack of a killer instinct by Ds.

Vaccines, abortion, guns, immigration, gov't overthrow, infrastructure - wrong side of everything

CountryRoads

Quote from: Pakuni on September 09, 2021, 08:40:21 PM
@FrankLuntz: Swing-state poll of employer vax mandates

𝗔𝗿𝗶𝘇𝗼𝗻𝗮
• Favor: 68%
• Oppose: 32

𝗚𝗲𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗶𝗮
• Favor: 63%
• Oppose: 37

𝗠𝗶𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗮𝗻
• Favor: 61%
• Oppose: 39

𝗣𝗲𝗻𝗻𝘀𝘆𝗹𝘃𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗮
• Favor: 64%
• Oppose: 36

𝗪𝗶𝘀𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗻
• Favor: 68%
• Oppose: 32 https://twitter.com/steveschale/status/1436060909470879749

The poll was for whether employers should mandate the vaccine and not whether the federal government should require employers to mandate the vaccine. Big difference.

I work remotely and so does the rest of my team who is scattered throughout the country, so it makes no sense for vaccines to be mandated by my company (100+ employees). It would make sense if I needed to be physically present and interact with and serve customers. Case by case basis. No one size fits all.

Although, I do think the mandates will be effective and many more corporate simps will end up vaccinated as a result.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 09, 2021, 07:18:56 PM
9 of 10, more electric work.  No air quotes stops you short of a 10
Rounding back into form after a short slump. Encouraging.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

forgetful

I don't see the argument that this is unconstitutional. Vaccine mandates by the federal government date back to George Washington. And in this case it is a rule regulated by OSHA for worker health and safety. Not sure how one can say that isn't within the scope of their authority.

One could argue that the new rule has to go through the normal process, but Trump repeatedly violated those pathways under the guise of "emergency powers," and they held, so seems like that card was already played.

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 09, 2021, 06:19:28 PM
Wee gonna expand gubment bye creatin' da covid poolice, hey?

Just take a page from Texas' book and deputize Covid Vigilantes.

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 09, 2021, 07:39:21 PM


he's got stutterin' issues, aina?

stutterers r stoopid, nu?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 09, 2021, 07:39:21 PM


Ya gotta 'cuse Full Diaper 'cuz, you know, he's got stutterin' issues, aina?

Classy. Do you point and giggle when you see someone in a wheelchair?

The Sultan

Quote from: CountryRoads on September 09, 2021, 10:02:42 PM
The poll was for whether employers should mandate the vaccine and not whether the federal government should require employers to mandate the vaccine. Big difference.


Not really.  I think most people are growing weary of the anti-vaxxers ramping everything back up again, and if it takes a government mandate via OSHA, then that's what it takes.


Quote from: CountryRoads on September 09, 2021, 10:02:42 PM
I work remotely and so does the rest of my team who is scattered throughout the country, so it makes no sense for vaccines to be mandated by my company (100+ employees). It would make sense if I needed to be physically present and interact with and serve customers. Case by case basis. No one size fits all.

Although, I do think the mandates will be effective and many more corporate simps will end up vaccinated as a result.

Good.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on September 09, 2021, 11:24:03 PM
Classy. Do you point and giggle when you see someone in a wheelchair?

Jockey calling someone out for being classless...



You literally said that you don't care if people die.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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