Vaccine/Antibody updates

[4everwarriors]

There is risk in living every day. Get your vaccination and start living again. That's the end game. Just do it, aina?

[Warriors4ever]

I’ve followed a lot of what’s happened in other countries. Americans were never kept ‘holed up’.

[pacearrow02]

There is all sorts of official, government advice about how you can not be "holed up" and still be safe.  Those people who are "scared" and "spooked" and being holed up to the extreme aren't really following government advice.

💯 like most things I blame the media who have scared the living sh*t out of some people with the slanted/over the top negative coverage the last year.

If the news would just report what the guidelines, data, and gov’t recommendations say without such a dooms day cloud over it all the division and mental stability for a lot of people would be in a much better spot.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

💯 like most things I blame the media who have scared the living sh*t out of some people with the slanted/over the top negative coverage the last year.

If the news would just report what the guidelines, data, and gov’t recommendations say without such a dooms day cloud over it all the division and mental stability for a lot of people would be in a much better spot.

If only that got the ratings....

[tower912]

Including the numbers infected, hospitalized, and killed is kind of important.

[pacearrow02]

Including the numbers infected, hospitalized, and killed is kind of important.

Very important which is why I said report the data.  For instance include in the reporting that over 80% of those deaths/hospitalizations happened to obese folks is an example of possibly providing a little context to the numbers.  Follow that up with stressing the importance of getting outside to exercise and to the gym to give your body a better chance of fighting the virus if you get it.

Maybe highlight that 98% folks who do get it will survive it.  My point is the media zeroed in on only the negative which drove a certain percentage of the population into a dark spot mentally.

[4everwarriors]

I blame Fauci and Birx, hey?

[pacearrow02]

I blame Fauci and Birx, hey?

Nope I get they had to look at things through a singular lense of disease mitigation.  The paranoia, panic, and fear monger is fully the fault of a broken media system desperate for clicks and viewership.  Like Fluffy stated, drama and negativity drives those numbers unfortunately, especially during an election year.

[Jockey]

Very important which is why I said report the data.  For instance include in the reporting that over 80% of those deaths/hospitalizations happened to obese folks is an example of possibly providing a little context to the numbers.  Follow that up with stressing the importance of getting outside to exercise and to the gym to give your body a better chance of fighting the virus if you get it.

Maybe highlight that 98% folks who do get it will survive it.  My point is the media zeroed in on only the negative which drove a certain percentage of the population into a dark spot mentally.

I agree. When we talk about people killed in traffic accidents, we need to also talk about those who don't get killed. Getting in an accident has gotten a bad name even though 99% of the people involved survive.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

I don't what the "other maladies" are, but I had a relative in their 80's who has Lupus and has had both shots of Pfizer and had zero side effects.

It's not just the lupus, it is various allergies and other Autoimmune problems as well that's exacerbated by the Lupus. She is in and out of the hospital at least once a month for something.

[pacearrow02]

I agree. When we talk about people killed in traffic accidents, we need to also talk about those who don't get killed. Getting in an accident has gotten a bad name even though 99% of the people involved survive.

If we start having wall to wall news coverage on automobile deaths which leads to restrictions put on business, schools, travel, etc because it’s not safe to drive and the risk is too great then yes I would then encourage the media to not focus solely on the deaths that come from car accidents but to provide a little context to it and recommendations for how to drive safely while still encouraging folks to drive in hopes of not causing unnecessary panic.

What a silly non-serious analogy.  But you’ve proven over time to not be interested in conversing like an adult on anything Covid/politics related so the response was unfortunately also predictable.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

The news entertainment programs are counting on people staying inside and watching in fear. Be scared of everything and gravitate back to the comfort of your couch, being told what to fear or be mad at each evening.

It's an effective business model and it makes it very difficult to employ common sense public health measures, as is evidenced by the last year.

[Jockey]

If we start having wall to wall news coverage on automobile deaths which leads to restrictions put on business, schools, travel, etc because it’s not safe to drive and the risk is too great then yes I would then encourage the media to not focus solely on the deaths that come from car accidents but to provide a little context to it and recommendations for how to drive safely while still encouraging folks to drive in hopes of not causing unnecessary panic.

What a silly non-serious analogy.  But you’ve proven over time to not be interested in conversing like an adult on anything Covid/politics related so the response was unfortunately also predictable.

I'll let you argue against yourself.

[jesmu84]

The news entertainment programs are counting on people staying inside and watching in fear. Be scared of everything and gravitate back to the comfort of your couch, being told what to fear or be mad at each evening.

It's an effective business model and it makes it very difficult to employ common sense public health measures, as is evidenced by the last year.

The Fox News business model!

[jesmu84]

If we start having wall to wall news coverage on automobile deaths which leads to restrictions put on business, schools, travel, etc because it’s not safe to drive and the risk is too great then yes I would then encourage the media to not focus solely on the deaths that come from car accidents but to provide a little context to it and recommendations for how to drive safely while still encouraging folks to drive in hopes of not causing unnecessary panic.

What a silly non-serious analogy.  But you’ve proven over time to not be interested in conversing like an adult on anything Covid/politics related so the response was unfortunately also predictable.

Do you think the government should require citizens to wear seat belt?

[pacearrow02]

Do you think the government should require citizens to wear seat belt?

I do.  What does that have to do with media coverage?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

On the vaccine front, the biggest equity issue doesn’t have anything to do with “righties”.

Here in the Twin Cities, we’re opening up a huge new location next week that is only serving those living in the highest “Social Vulnerability Index” zip codes (which happens to include the one I grew up in and the one I now live in).

The vaccine issue isn’t about a small piece of the population tapping nonsense, it’s actually about the “non-righties”

So, no

You are misunderstanding my argument, or choosing to answer something completely different. You said the government was scaring people nonsense; I pointed out the right is scaring people with nonsense about the vaccines.

So, yes.

[Jay Bee]

I thought you’d be more concerned about inequities and maybe explain to us dummies why vaccines are not being administered to minorities at the same rate as certain other, large groups (including... as you say... “righties”)

[Jockey]

On the vaccine front, the biggest equity issue doesn’t have anything to do with “righties”.

Here in the Twin Cities, we’re opening up a huge new location next week that is only serving those living in the highest “Social Vulnerability Index” zip codes (which happens to include the one I grew up in and the one I now live in).

The vaccine issue isn’t about a small piece of the population tapping nonsense, it’s actually about the “non-righties”

So, no

So, if I am understanding your point - you are complaining about minorities getting preferred treatment. AFTER white and wealthier communities got preferred treatment for the first 4 months.

OK, then.

[Jay Bee]

So, if I am understanding your point - you are complaining about minorities getting preferred treatment. AFTER white and wealthier communities got preferred treatment for the first 4 months.

OK, then.

No. I’m questioning why a lunatic is yapping about “righties” being an issue in getting people vaccinated when a real issue is minorities not getting vaccinated, which is not a result of “righties”

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

No. I’m questioning why a lunatic is yapping about “righties” being an issue in getting people vaccinated when a real issue is minorities not getting vaccinated, which is not a result of “righties”

Actually it kind of is.  A more accessible and affordable health care system would likely see a reduction in the economic disparities between the people receiving the vaccine and not receiving it.  "Righties" really aren't for that.

[Jay Bee]

Actually it kind of is.  A more accessible and affordable health care system would likely see a reduction in the economic disparities between the people receiving the vaccine and not receiving it.  "Righties" really aren't for that.

So affordability is what is keeping minorities from getting free vaccinations? Okiiieeee

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

So affordability is what is keeping minorities from getting free vaccinations? Okiiieeee

No. A healthcare system that has traditionally been difficult for the poor to access has lead to mistrust and underuse of healthcare overall. That has just manifested itself in the vaccination effort.

If we had a more robust public health system and a better method of health financing, it would have lead to more equitable vaccine distribution.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

No. I’m questioning why a lunatic is yapping about “righties” being an issue in getting people vaccinated when a real issue is minorities not getting vaccinated, which is not a result of “righties”

No, because you are choosing to answer something that I did not opine on. You stated that the government was "scaring people with nonsense". I pointed out that many people are choosing not to get the vaccine, which could end up unnatural carnal knowledgeing everyone over, because of rightwing media with a constant drumbeat of disinformation scaring people with nonsense.

The inequitable distribution of the vaccine is an entirely different issue. Worthy of discussion, but an entirely different issue. Perhaps we could bring in Florida Man DeSantis to weigh in?

[Jay Bee]

No. A healthcare system that has traditionally been difficult for the poor to access has lead to mistrust and underuse of healthcare overall. That has just manifested itself in the vaccination effort.

Ahh, I get it. Similar to how the govt has effectively kept people holed up. Thanks