Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)

[forgetful]

Natural vs vaccine immunity is a stupid discussion and only seeks to distract

I like it largely from a scientific perspective on the actual complexities of developing and optimizing a vaccine. Pretty cool stuff.

The only other place I can see the discussion having meaning is maybe to validate a general rule to allow those with prior infections to wait 3-months before getting a mandated vaccine.

Separate from that, data is pretty clear go get vaccinated.

[jesmu84]

I like it largely from a scientific perspective on the actual complexities of developing and optimizing a vaccine. Pretty cool stuff.

The only other place I can see the discussion having meaning is maybe to validate a general rule to allow those with prior infections to wait 3-months before getting a mandated vaccine.

Separate from that, data is pretty clear go get vaccinated.

All of what you said is correct. But that's not why anti vax want to discuss the topic

[rocket surgeon]

I like it largely from a scientific perspective on the actual complexities of developing and optimizing a vaccine. Pretty cool stuff.

The only other place I can see the discussion having meaning is maybe to validate a general rule to allow those with prior infections to wait 3-months before getting a mandated vaccine.

Separate from that, data is pretty clear go get vaccinated.

  all good stuff forget-thank you!  as for distractions(jesmu) that sounds pretty dictatorial to me-just do what we say attitude opens it up for more "push-back" 

although it may have been touched on before, this should also be a great opportunity to stress a more healthy lifestyle.  many of the commodities are weight, diabetes, lung issues.  today's society has been so careful not to offend, especially the weight thing, but sometimes difficult conversations need to be held.  if it helps save lives, it should be discussed just as the getting the vaccine conversations have been.  we cannot groom society to ignore the aforementioned uncomfortable topics setting up a potential false expectations.  there should be more emphasis placed on overall health, diets, exercise, etc  as this virus thing plays out, we need to rebuild the public's trust which i believe should include going after the root causes and some real action otherwise, we will continue to be vulnerable to more of the same. 

thank you for the ncbi link -i do find this "stupid" stuff fascinating.  i understand it can sound mundane, but sorry, this is how chit works

[4everwarriors]

Here's da bullchit hypocrisy in Vegas. Masks are required indoors, 'cept wen "actively" eatin' or smokin' in da casino, hey?

[JWags85]

Here's da bullchit hypocrisy in Vegas. Masks are required indoors, 'cept wen "actively" eatin' or smokin' in da casino, hey?

Its not hypocrisy, its just ineffective policy.  Ive mentioned before, in Vegas, the minute you step into a restaurant, bar, or club, you can remove your mask.  Not just actively drinking or eating.  Not much in the way of capacity restrictions either.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Here's da bullchit hypocrisy in Vegas. Masks are required indoors, 'cept wen "actively" eatin' or smokin' in da casino, hey?

Covid hovers around standing height only.  Can't get it if you are sitting.   Science.

[🏀]

Here's da bullchit hypocrisy in Vegas. Masks are required indoors, 'cept wen "actively" eatin' or smokin' in da casino, hey?

Total hypocrisy. The Strip casinos do have the best air quality in the world though. Great filtration and always pumping fresh oxygen.

[🏀]

Covid hovers around standing height only.  Can't get it if you are sitting.   Science.

Smart ones stay sitting on pervert's row, aina?

[JWags85]

Total hypocrisy. The Strip casinos do have the best air quality in the world though. Great filtration and always pumping fresh oxygen.

Sure, but anyone who has still managed to get a face full of smoke from someone at their table, even with the mini fans going, knows it has its limitations.

[🏀]

Sure, but anyone who has still managed to get a face full of smoke from someone at their table, even with the mini fans going, knows it has its limitations.

Agree.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Least surprising poll results ever.

New poll shows Americans who trust conservative media outlets more likely to believe COVID-19 misinformation
ttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-poll-shows-americans-who-trust-conservative-media-outlets-more-likely-to-believe-covid-19-misinformation/ar-AAQvqmK

"In a survey released Monday by the Kaiser Family Foundation, respondents were asked about eight different misconceptions about the pandemic, ranging from "The government is exaggerating the number of COVID-19 deaths" to "The COVID-19 vaccines can change your DNA." The survey found that 78 percent of Americans either believe or aren't sure about at least one of the statements. However, the numbers varied greatly depending on party affiliation, vaccination status and source of news.

Some 64 percent of unvaccinated respondents believed or were unsure about four or more of the false statements, compared with 19 percent of the vaccinated. Only 6 percent of Republicans surveyed believed or were unsure of none of the statements, versus 22 percent of independents and 38 percent of Democrats.

Some of the largest discrepancies came from where Americans got their news. Those who received their information from the right-wing outlets Newsmax, One America News Network and Fox News were far more likely to believe or be unsure about the false statements than those who received their news from local TV news, NPR, MSNBC, network news or CNN. Only 12 percent of those who considered Fox News a trusted news source believed none of the false statements, versus 40 percent of those who trusted CNN, 38 percent who trusted network news and 32 percent who trusted local news."

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Ahhhh, now we see why Scoop's dentists are anti-booster: they are already completely protected! Thanks Tuckems!

Tucker Carlson, Fox News Doctor Discuss Viagra as Possible Treatment for COVID
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-fox-news-doctor-discuss-viagra-possible-treatment-covid-1667206

"Well, amazingly there appear to be growing connections between Viagra and treatment for the coronavirus," Carlson said in a segment of his Fox News show on Friday. He cited the story of the nurse in the U.K. and brought on Siegel, who is a professor of medicine at the New York University Langone Medical Center, to discuss the treatment.

"Who thought Viagra would save us from the pandemic?" Carlson asked.

[thomaskyle]

Least surprising poll results ever.

New poll shows Americans who trust conservative media outlets more likely to believe COVID-19 misinformation
ttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-poll-shows-americans-who-trust-conservative-media-outlets-more-likely-to-believe-covid-19-misinformation/ar-AAQvqmK

"In a survey released Monday by the Kaiser Family Foundation, respondents were asked about eight different misconceptions about the pandemic, ranging from "The government is exaggerating the number of COVID-19 deaths" to "The COVID-19 vaccines can change your DNA." The survey found that 78 percent of Americans either believe or aren't sure about at least one of the statements. However, the numbers varied greatly depending on party affiliation, vaccination status and source of news.

Some 64 percent of unvaccinated respondents believed or were unsure about four or more of the false statements, compared with 19 percent of the vaccinated. Only 6 percent of Republicans surveyed believed or were unsure of none of the statements, versus 22 percent of independents and 38 percent of Democrats.

Some of the largest discrepancies came from where Americans got their news. Those who received their information from the right-wing outlets Newsmax, One America News Network and Fox News were far more likely to believe or be unsure about the false statements than those who received their news from local TV news, NPR, MSNBC, network news or CNN. Only 12 percent of those who considered Fox News a trusted news source believed none of the false statements, versus 40 percent of those who trusted CNN, 38 percent who trusted network news and 32 percent who trusted local news."

lmao
https://twitter.com/i/status/1439276910853373955

[The Sultan]

lmao
https://twitter.com/i/status/1439276910853373955

But hospitals are filling up though. So what's your point?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

But hospitals are filling up though. So what's your point?

Indeed, pay no attention to actual numbers! Someone said blue states are taking this way too seriously!

Let's take a look at what those silly, hysterical blue-staters are doing:



Oh.

Well, no big deal, those are just numbers, and they certainly can't hold up against one guy's opinion. He travels a lot!

[JWags85]

Well the point isn't one guy's opinion, it's the survey numbers from the NYT.

And it's not omicron or COVID attacking the vaccinated that is filling up hospitals.

Both can be true. People continuing to be unvaccinated are idiots and are filling up hospitals. 

But also, the realities and true risk to the vaccinated and boosted is being misconstrued and blurred in the name of fear porn or just blended statistics.

We've established that plenty of people here have no issue with excess caution bordering on irrational panic because "it can't hurt" but I have always thought the "we're all doomed"
morbid reporting of COVID developments, regardless of the situation isn't helping. It's not scaring people into being vaccinated and people who have done the right things living in fear and paranoia about infection isn't truly saving lives

[TSmith34, Inc.]

It goes far beyond vaccines. The people agreeing with the tweet are the same ones also against masking, social distancing, or any sort of precaution at all, resulting in highly a disproportionate number of deaths. It's the sports equivalent of getting absolutely drubbed on the playing field while declaring that your opponent's gameplan is terrible.

But to those folks: Please proceed.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Like this from this morning?

[pbiflyer]

Evidently, there is a new treatment going around the anti vaxxers these days and it's golden.   

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Evidently, there is a new treatment going around the anti vaxxers these days and it's golden.   

Saw that. My first thought was that the guy was trolling...but nope, they really are this insane.

At least it is less dangerous than injecting bleach as one notable healthcare expert suggested doing.

[Uncle Rico]

Saw that. My first thought was that the guy was trolling...but nope, they really are this insane.

At least it is less dangerous than injecting bleach as one notable healthcare expert suggested doing.

9 out of 10 dentists recommend drinking your own urine to prevent cavities

[tower912]

I saw that.  My first thought:  'urine sane. '

[cheebs09]

Dr. Moises Alou?

[MU82]

Saw that. My first thought was that the guy was trolling...but nope, they really are this insane.

At least it is less dangerous than injecting bleach as one notable healthcare expert suggested doing.

That same notable healthcare expert famously enjoys the occasional golden shower.

[pbiflyer]

9 out of 10 dentists recommend drinking your own urine to prevent cavities

I understand that they recommend drinking it right before visiting the dentist.