Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)

[forgetful]

once again, "the experts".  as a doctor myself, there are procedures that we do, restorative procedures that may not have been "peer reviewed" but hybrid type procedures that we have tried and tested ourselves over time.  i am ultimately responsible for me.  as dentists in general, we do not like failure.  we are talking about fractions of a millimeter.   i spoke to a peer some time ago, as i was entering the field, he told me the biggest compliment a dentist could have is seeing his work years down the road.  i still see a lot of my dads work and i go out of my way to tell him. 

back to the hydroxy-there are real doctors who've used it very successfully-dr steven smith, a very well known and respected infectious disease specialist discusses his methods-Dr. Mohammud Alam(new york), dr harvey risch-yale school of epidemiology

 https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/causes/new-study-reveals-success-of-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid-treatment/vi-AAKCluk

a year ago, these guys were being reprimanded from using something they believed worked.  this wasn't a new drug.  if they said they were treating patients for malaria or lupus, no questions asked, but how dare they use it for covid?? 

this from 6 days ago-

 https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html

there are many doctors who believe hydroxy works!  their only motivation is efficacy-period!  i don't understand why so many like you smith, are so adamantly opposed to using this drug.  just let it go dude.  i'm listening to the experts who have treated actual patients with it.  has it worked 100%?  probably not, but risk/benefit leans saving lives.  msnbc has had a doc on their show for almost a year.  he hasn't been right once, but still get's his time, just like that fake fauci.  read his emails

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/04/06/here-are-five-doctors-whose-patients-have-seen-recovery-with-hydroxy-chloroquine-n2566409

Rocket, there have been multiple large scale clinical trials of HCQ, HCQ/AZ, and HCQ/Zn, all come to the same conclusion, no medical benefit and an increased risk of side effects.

Any doctor prescribing that medication should have their license suspended.

What all of this unequivocally proves, is that having the title of doctor does not preclude one from being scientifically illiterate and an idiot.

[MU82]

Rocket, there have been multiple large scale clinical trials of HCQ, HCQ/AZ, and HCQ/Zn, all come to the same conclusion, no medical benefit and an increased risk of side effects.

Any doctor prescribing that medication should have their license suspended.

What all of this unequivocally proves, is that having the title of doctor does not preclude one from being scientifically illiterate and an idiot.

I cannot believe you would discredit Dr. Demon Seed, Dr. MyPillow and Dr. Trump this way!

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Hey, rocket brain's favorite doctor is back with more life saving advice!

Pharmacists Fight Off COVID Truthers Demanding Horse Medicine Instead of the Jab
https://www.thedailybeast.com/demon-sperm-doctors-new-bogus-cure-has-covid-truthers-eating-horse-paste

"Devotees have besieged pharmacists with prescriptions from shady online prescribers, forcing pharmacies to crack down and treat the antiparasitic drugs like opioids. As human-approved ivermectin prescriptions have been harder to come by, enthusiasts have taken to raiding rural tractor supply stores in search of ivermectin horse paste (packed with “apple flavor!”) and weighed the benefits of taking ivermectin “sheep drench” and a noromectin “injection for swine and cattle.”

Like the Trumpist miracle cure hydroxychloroquine before it, the hype for ivermectin comes against the advice of the medical community, which has been skeptical of the drug’s purported benefits. Although ivermectin optimists point to a few trials of the drug on COVID patients, two of the flashiest studies have either been withdrawn or heavily criticized due to errors.

An Arizona-based pharmacist told The Daily Beast that their pharmacy had been inundated with ivermectin prescriptions from America’s Frontline Doctors.

The group was founded in 2020 by Dr Simone Gold, currently awaiting trial on charges related to her alleged participation in the Jan. 6 insurrection, and pushed an anti-lockdown, pro-hydroxychloroquine agenda with the help of Dr. Stella Immanuel, the so-called “demon sperm” doctor who has professed a belief in aliens and “reptilian” overlords.

After spending much of the pandemic touting hydroxychloroquine, America’s Frontline Doctors now offers tele-health consults for $90 and directs prospective patients and visitors looking to get scripts for hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin filled to Ravkoo, an online pharmacy startup based in Florida.

“At the peak we were getting between 5-10 scripts per week. (Demon sperm ‘MD’ was calling them into our voicemail). Recently, it’s been 1-2 a month thankfully,” the Arizona pharmacist messaged The Daily Beast."

[tower912]

I have a co-worker who is regretting getting vaccinated, instead convinced that ivermectin is the answer to COVID.   This has led to raised voices and a slammed door.

[forgetful]

Hey, rocket brain's favorite doctor is back with more life saving advice!

Pharmacists Fight Off COVID Truthers Demanding Horse Medicine Instead of the Jab
https://www.thedailybeast.com/demon-sperm-doctors-new-bogus-cure-has-covid-truthers-eating-horse-paste

"Devotees have besieged pharmacists with prescriptions from shady online prescribers, forcing pharmacies to crack down and treat the antiparasitic drugs like opioids. As human-approved ivermectin prescriptions have been harder to come by, enthusiasts have taken to raiding rural tractor supply stores in search of ivermectin horse paste (packed with “apple flavor!”) and weighed the benefits of taking ivermectin “sheep drench” and a noromectin “injection for swine and cattle.”

Like the Trumpist miracle cure hydroxychloroquine before it, the hype for ivermectin comes against the advice of the medical community, which has been skeptical of the drug’s purported benefits. Although ivermectin optimists point to a few trials of the drug on COVID patients, two of the flashiest studies have either been withdrawn or heavily criticized due to errors.

An Arizona-based pharmacist told The Daily Beast that their pharmacy had been inundated with ivermectin prescriptions from America’s Frontline Doctors.

The group was founded in 2020 by Dr Simone Gold, currently awaiting trial on charges related to her alleged participation in the Jan. 6 insurrection, and pushed an anti-lockdown, pro-hydroxychloroquine agenda with the help of Dr. Stella Immanuel, the so-called “demon sperm” doctor who has professed a belief in aliens and “reptilian” overlords.

After spending much of the pandemic touting hydroxychloroquine, America’s Frontline Doctors now offers tele-health consults for $90 and directs prospective patients and visitors looking to get scripts for hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin filled to Ravkoo, an online pharmacy startup based in Florida.

“At the peak we were getting between 5-10 scripts per week. (Demon sperm ‘MD’ was calling them into our voicemail). Recently, it’s been 1-2 a month thankfully,” the Arizona pharmacist messaged The Daily Beast."

Seriously, why do these doctors still have medical licenses.

[JWags85]

Seriously, why do these doctors still have medical licenses. What this shows, is that the quality of American doctors isn't so great.

That seems like a pretty unfair summation based on a few lunatics.  Its not like the vaccination efforts are hampered because a resounding percentage of doctors are curbing the efforts with caution or outright anti-vax sentiment.

[forgetful]

That seems like a pretty unfair summation based on a few lunatics.  Its not like the vaccination efforts are hampered because a resounding percentage of doctors are curbing the efforts with caution or outright anti-vax sentiment.

I agree. It was an unfair summation based on a few lunatics.

What I meant, and spectacularly failed at saying, was that this just shows that NOT ALL doctors can be trusted, or are brilliant.

I was wrong. My bad.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Some are lunatics, no doubt, but some are doing it primarily to make an easy buck by separating the suckers from their money. Morally and professionally reprehensible, but not a reflection on doctors overall.

[rocket surgeon]

Hey, rocket brain's favorite doctor is back with more life saving advice!

Pharmacists Fight Off COVID Truthers Demanding Horse Medicine Instead of the Jab
https://www.thedailybeast.com/demon-sperm-doctors-new-bogus-cure-has-covid-truthers-eating-horse-paste

"Devotees have besieged pharmacists with prescriptions from shady online prescribers, forcing pharmacies to crack down and treat the antiparasitic drugs like opioids. As human-approved ivermectin prescriptions have been harder to come by, enthusiasts have taken to raiding rural tractor supply stores in search of ivermectin horse paste (packed with “apple flavor!”) and weighed the benefits of taking ivermectin “sheep drench” and a noromectin “injection for swine and cattle.”

Like the Trumpist miracle cure hydroxychloroquine before it, the hype for ivermectin comes against the advice of the medical community, which has been skeptical of the drug’s purported benefits. Although ivermectin optimists point to a few trials of the drug on COVID patients, two of the flashiest studies have either been withdrawn or heavily criticized due to errors.

An Arizona-based pharmacist told The Daily Beast that their pharmacy had been inundated with ivermectin prescriptions from America’s Frontline Doctors.

The group was founded in 2020 by Dr Simone Gold, currently awaiting trial on charges related to her alleged participation in the Jan. 6 insurrection, and pushed an anti-lockdown, pro-hydroxychloroquine agenda with the help of Dr. Stella Immanuel, the so-called “demon sperm” doctor who has professed a belief in aliens and “reptilian” overlords.

After spending much of the pandemic touting hydroxychloroquine, America’s Frontline Doctors now offers tele-health consults for $90 and directs prospective patients and visitors looking to get scripts for hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin filled to Ravkoo, an online pharmacy startup based in Florida.

“At the peak we were getting between 5-10 scripts per week. (Demon sperm ‘MD’ was calling them into our voicemail). Recently, it’s been 1-2 a month thankfully,” the Arizona pharmacist messaged The Daily Beast."

  you are nothing but a c#$ks**@ing trolling liar-i've never heard of nor mentioned any of the people in this article...dailybeast?  puhleez tell me this isn't your "nytimes"  but would explain your wokedness

[Skatastrophy]

  you are nothing but a c#$ks**@ing trolling liar-i've never heard of nor mentioned any of the people in this article...dailybeast?  puhleez tell me this isn't your "nytimes"  but would explain your wokedness

Lol you can say cocksucking if you want. The mods don't think that's a curse word, probably because they're slurpers. Even if you couldn't say cock, you still wouldn't have to censor sucking.

[reinko]

  you are nothing but a c#$ks**@ing trolling liar-i've never heard of nor mentioned any of the people in this article...dailybeast?  puhleez tell me this isn't your "nytimes"  but would explain your wokedness

Maybe re-read the PM you sent me like 10 days ago

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Curious. Sciencers, if the potential effectiveness of this drug is due to its anti-inflammatory properties, it seems to me other drugs with similar capabilities, and definitely specifically anti-inflammatory drugs (rather than a drug used primarily as an anti-depressant) would have already shown usefulness, no?

An Antidepressant Is the Surprising New Anti-COVID Drug
https://www.thedailybeast.com/antidepressant-drug-fluvoxamine-could-reduce-risk-of-hospitalization-for-covid-19-patients

"But remdesivir might have some company soon. A new clinical trial shows that fluvoxamine—typically prescribed to treat depression, anxiety, and obsessive-compulsive disorder—shortened hospital stays for people battling severe COVID infections.

The findings, published in The Lancet Global Health on Wednesday, could be a huge breakthrough to save patient lives and shorten the recovery from COVID—not least because fluvoxamine is incredibly cheap and can be administered orally.

Fluvoxamine was first introduced to the world in 1983, and has been FDA-approved since 1994. It’s a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, or SSRI. Unlike remdesivir, it does not have any obvious anti-viral properties. Edward Mills, a co-author of the new study based at McMaster University in Canada, told The Daily Beast the effects are most likely anti-inflammatory.

This is key, because in many severe cases of COVID, it isn’t the virus that kills—it’s the body’s own immune response going into hyperdrive and unleashing itself on healthy cells and tissue, at an incredibly rapid pace."

[forgetful]

Curious. Sciencers, if the potential effectiveness of this drug is due to its anti-inflammatory properties, it seems to me other drugs with similar capabilities, and definitely specifically anti-inflammatory drugs (rather than a drug used primarily as an anti-depressant) would have already shown usefulness, no?

An Antidepressant Is the Surprising New Anti-COVID Drug
https://www.thedailybeast.com/antidepressant-drug-fluvoxamine-could-reduce-risk-of-hospitalization-for-covid-19-patients

"But remdesivir might have some company soon. A new clinical trial shows that fluvoxamine—typically prescribed to treat depression, anxiety, and obsessive-compulsive disorder—shortened hospital stays for people battling severe COVID infections.

The findings, published in The Lancet Global Health on Wednesday, could be a huge breakthrough to save patient lives and shorten the recovery from COVID—not least because fluvoxamine is incredibly cheap and can be administered orally.

Fluvoxamine was first introduced to the world in 1983, and has been FDA-approved since 1994. It’s a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, or SSRI. Unlike remdesivir, it does not have any obvious anti-viral properties. Edward Mills, a co-author of the new study based at McMaster University in Canada, told The Daily Beast the effects are most likely anti-inflammatory.

This is key, because in many severe cases of COVID, it isn’t the virus that kills—it’s the body’s own immune response going into hyperdrive and unleashing itself on healthy cells and tissue, at an incredibly rapid pace."

Looking at the raw data, I'm not overly impressed. I would stick with the existing treatments.

[Skatastrophy]

So... Molnupiravir - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/27/health/covid-pill-access-molnupiravir.html

I haven't seen trial/study outcomes from Molnupiravir yet but Merck claims that their treatment "cut hospitalizations and deaths by half among patients with early symptoms of COVID-19." https://www.merck.com/news/merck-and-ridgebacks-investigational-oral-antiviral-molnupiravir-reduced-the-risk-of-hospitalization-or-death-by-approximately-50-percent-compared-to-placebo-for-patients-with-mild-or-moderat/

In addition to asking for emergency approval from the FDA, Merck has sought out 5 licensing deals to speed up manufacture of the drug to increase its global availability - https://www.merck.com/news/amid-humanitarian-crisis-in-india-merck-announces-voluntary-licensing-agreements-with-five-indian-generics-manufacturers-to-accelerate-and-expand-global-access-to-molnupiravir-an-investigational-ora/

A ~$20 treatment to keep people out of the hospital, combined with our fairly effective vaccine, might do the trick here.

[Hards Alumni]

So... Molnupiravir - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/27/health/covid-pill-access-molnupiravir.html

I haven't seen trial/study outcomes from Molnupiravir yet but Merck claims that their treatment "cut hospitalizations and deaths by half among patients with early symptoms of COVID-19." https://www.merck.com/news/merck-and-ridgebacks-investigational-oral-antiviral-molnupiravir-reduced-the-risk-of-hospitalization-or-death-by-approximately-50-percent-compared-to-placebo-for-patients-with-mild-or-moderat/

In addition to asking for emergency approval from the FDA, Merck has sought out 5 licensing deals to speed up manufacture of the drug to increase its global availability - https://www.merck.com/news/amid-humanitarian-crisis-in-india-merck-announces-voluntary-licensing-agreements-with-five-indian-generics-manufacturers-to-accelerate-and-expand-global-access-to-molnupiravir-an-investigational-ora/

A ~$20 treatment to keep people out of the hospital, combined with our fairly effective vaccine, might do the trick here.

I mean, that'd be great.

[Skatastrophy]

I mean, that'd be great.

That's how I feel too. Until then, I'm going to keep taking licks off my tube of horse apple paste.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Roqqet's favorite doctor, Dr. Demon Sperm, she of the HCQ and ivermectin cured, is back!

Dr. 'Demon Sperm' Warns Our Leaders Have Been Replaced With Blood-Drinking Clones
https://www.wonkette.com/dr-demon-sperm-warns-our-leaders-have-been-replaced-with-blood-drinking-clones

"These are the clones that are not human. Some of them are governors in states, some of them are Presidents in different countries, some of them are big leaders of places [unintelligible] like the CDC, WHO, the FDA, some of those people are leaders and their job is to make laws that will cause people to die. And you know why? Because they are blood drinkers. They need people to die because they need to drink blood.

I actually think that the whole pandemic was a Trojan Horse for vaccines. COVID, from day one, I've always said it, it's completely treatable, and it's completely preventable, And there is no reason for you to be giving a vaccine for a disease that's completely treatable, and completely preventable. And on top of that, the death rate of COVID is not that high. So, we need to wake up and realize that these mandates, the vaccines, and everything is taking us right into the book of Revelations where you cannot buy or sell without taking the vax. I tell people my big mantra right now is, get prevention, early treatment, if you get sick, sick, sick and end up in the hospital, don't be afraid, because you know that it's a transition. If you're, if you're a child of God, if you're a Christian, you should not be afraid to die, first of all. So the reason why they can cage us is we're all so scared. So I said, you know, die saved and die human. [...]"

She's right about this, and she's right about ivermectin, right roqqet?

[rocket surgeon]

Roqqet's favorite doctor, Dr. Demon Sperm, she of the HCQ and ivermectin cured, is back!

Dr. 'Demon Sperm' Warns Our Leaders Have Been Replaced With Blood-Drinking Clones
https://www.wonkette.com/dr-demon-sperm-warns-our-leaders-have-been-replaced-with-blood-drinking-clones

"These are the clones that are not human. Some of them are governors in states, some of them are Presidents in different countries, some of them are big leaders of places [unintelligible] like the CDC, WHO, the FDA, some of those people are leaders and their job is to make laws that will cause people to die. And you know why? Because they are blood drinkers. They need people to die because they need to drink blood.

I actually think that the whole pandemic was a Trojan Horse for vaccines. COVID, from day one, I've always said it, it's completely treatable, and it's completely preventable, And there is no reason for you to be giving a vaccine for a disease that's completely treatable, and completely preventable. And on top of that, the death rate of COVID is not that high. So, we need to wake up and realize that these mandates, the vaccines, and everything is taking us right into the book of Revelations where you cannot buy or sell without taking the vax. I tell people my big mantra right now is, get prevention, early treatment, if you get sick, sick, sick and end up in the hospital, don't be afraid, because you know that it's a transition. If you're, if you're a child of God, if you're a Christian, you should not be afraid to die, first of all. So the reason why they can cage us is we're all so scared. So I said, you know, die saved and die human. [...]"

She's right about this, and she's right about ivermectin, right roqqet?

  get back to me schit hole when you know something about science and biology.  btw-never heard of this person, but when you can put your large crayons away, check out dr stephen smith-obviously no relation to schit for brains ts

[🏀]

  get back to me schit hole when you know something about science and biology.  btw-never heard of this person, but when you can put your large crayons away, check out dr stephen smith-obviously no relation to schit for brains ts

schit hole is a new one.

[Uncle Rico]

  get back to me schit hole when you know something about science and biology.  btw-never heard of this person, but when you can put your large crayons away, check out dr stephen smith-obviously no relation to schit for brains ts

10 of 10

Keep posting while drunk

[rocket surgeon]

10 of 10

Keep posting while drunk

have not had a drink in 15 years jack

[Uncle Rico]

have had a drink in 15 years jack

10 of 10

Keep posting while high

[TSmith34, Inc.]

  get back to me schit hole when you know something about science and biology.  btw-never heard of this person, but when you can put your large crayons away, check out dr stephen smith-obviously no relation to schit for brains ts

Do you mean sciency stuff like ivermectin doesn't work against COVID, and HCQ doesn't work against COVID, and vaccines are more potent that natural immunity? That sort of science stuff that you are clueless about?

I truly feel sorry for your patients. A "health care professional" that only knows conspiracy theories.

[Hards Alumni]

10 of 10

Keep posting while drunk

Nope, he is just this stupid all the time. 

He has no true excuse. 

[tower912]

I googled Dr. Stephen Smith.   You aren't helping yourself using him as a resource, rocket.