Hydroxychloroquinine updates (and other potential treatments)

[Hards Alumni]

Fair enough.  I won't die on that hill trying to defend it, but I do think the jury is still out on whether there is some validity to his claims.

Let's hope the Sorrento claims announced earlier today turn out to be real.  If they truly have a cure, everything goes back to normal in the U.S. by end of year.  Crossing my fingers on that whole deal.

Agreed.  We all want something to work asap!

[tower912]

We all want the same thing. 

[Jockey]

Let's be honest. People are only pushing Hydroxy because Trump did. Period!

[tower912]

Because they want the same thing.   An easy, existing effective solution.  Their lives back.   

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Let's be honest. People are only pushing Hydroxy because Trump did. Period!

You drunk again, bro?

[Pakuni]

You drunk again, bro?

DON'T make cracks about mental health.
DO make cracks about substance abuse.

[Pakuni]

Dumbass.

You trigger easier than Tommy DeVito. Must be fun at poker night ( Ts and Ps to Spider).
And yes, you do amuse me.

[tower912]

   the fact is it works!   

Some studies have said it has some benefit.  Other studies have said it makes no difference.  Another study was stopped because it was causing heart issues.   So it may work some of the time.    It is certainly not the silver bullet.

[MU82]

Can you link to the studies (not anecdotal stories or singular cases) you found that show success?

Also, there is no way any doctor has been prescribing this "for years" for covid-19?

What were the reasons CVS refused to fill? Is there a reliable source that states the federal government told the CVS pharmacists to not fill?

Can you provide examples of doctors getting sanctioned for saying the word hydroxychloroquine?

Can you provide links that demonstrate significantly higher numbers of people dying of other conditions that are being ignored vs expected numbers in a non-pandemic situation?

Crickets.

[Hards Alumni]

Some studies have said it has some benefit.  Other studies have said it makes no difference.  Another study was stopped because it was causing heart issues.   So it may work some of the time.    It is certainly not the silver bullet.

BOTH SIDES!

[tower912]

Some people say...

[MarquetteDano]

Moderna says vaccine trials went very well.  All participants had antibodies.  Market futures up big.

Like the slow trickle of good news on treatment front.

[tower912]

Keep sciencing.

[MU82]

Moderna says vaccine trials went very well.  All participants had antibodies.  Market futures up big.

Like the slow trickle of good news on treatment front.

Me too!

Here's a link for those interested:

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3575456-moderna-covidminus-19-vaccine-candidate-shows-positive-action-in-early-stage-study

[pbiflyer]

Me too!

Here's a link for those interested:

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3575456-moderna-covidminus-19-vaccine-candidate-shows-positive-action-in-early-stage-study

On day 43 of the trial? That means they began human trials the beginning of April? I did not realize that anyone had progressed that far that fast.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

On day 43 of the trial? That means they began human trials the beginning of April? I did not realize that anyone had progressed that far that fast.

There is an article in wired that talks about this process. I found it to be interesting.

https://www.wired.com/story/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-trials/

[forgetful]

Moderna says vaccine trials went very well.  All participants had antibodies.  Market futures up big.

Like the slow trickle of good news on treatment front.

I'm always hesitant to get excited about the biotech company that rushes to put out press releases, before they have even analyzed the full results. They didn't do analysis yet on the highest dosage group, which probably could be done in a day or two. The only reason to rush the press release is that your results are not that tantalizing, and usually because someone else has better results coming out soon.

[MarquetteDano]

I'm always hesitant to get excited about the biotech company that rushes to put out press releases, before they have even analyzed the full results. They didn't do analysis yet on the highest dosage group, which probably could be done in a day or two. The only reason to rush the press release is that your results are not that tantalizing, and usually because someone else has better results coming out soon.

I don't know the medical side at all,  but I will say in terms of releases that sometimes companies hands' are forced since they know there are early leaks of information.  Better to let the whole financial community know then people trading on inside information.

[tower912]

I don't know if this is a silver bullet either.    However, they are actually going through the process.    Like everybody actually doing the work to find a treatment or vaccine ( I would say 'cure', but I know how that triggers 'some people'), I wish them nothing but the best.   Good luck.    I hope you have landed on the answer.   

[forgetful]

I don't know the medical side at all,  but I will say in terms of releases that sometimes companies hands' are forced since they know there are early leaks of information.  Better to let the whole financial community know then people trading on inside information.

I've always thought the fear of leaks, are in controlling the message, and first to press, gets the biggest stock bump.

I don't know if this is a silver bullet either.    However, they are actually going through the process.    Like everybody actually doing the work to find a treatment or vaccine ( I would say 'cure', but I know how that triggers 'some people'), I wish them nothing but the best.   Good luck.    I hope you have landed on the answer.   

Tower, I agree. And I'm actually optimistic/hopeful that the reason they rushed the press release, is because we will soon hear of a more successful and promising vaccine development by another company.

[Warriors4ever]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52717161

Trump has is taking hydroxychloroquinine as a preventive.
Because he got letters from first responders saying they were taking it. So that was evidence of its positive effect.
You cannot make this stuff up.

[Billy Hoyle]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52717161

Trump has is taking hydroxychloroquinine as a preventive.
Because he got letters from first responders saying they were taking it. So that was evidence of its positive effect.
You cannot make this stuff up.

he makes up everything. He must have some serious holdings in one of the manufacturers.

Though maybe his staff relabeled his Adderall and Sudafed as "hydroxychloroquine."

It's sad that that in this day in age, when one hears the President say something and you immediately know it's a lie.

[Jockey]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52717161

Trump has is taking hydroxychloroquinine as a preventive.
Because he got letters from first responders saying they were taking it. So that was evidence of its positive effect.
You cannot make this stuff up.

Actually, he DOES make this stuff up. There is not even 1 chance in 1,000 that he is taking it.

[The Sultan]

So irresponsible. Yet another example of how his messaging is so awful.

[Warriors4ever]

Ok could his physician have a licensing issue if he prescribed it because Trump wanted it, despite there being no clinical reason to do so?