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ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on September 23, 2020, 02:01:16 PM
That's naturally fine to do, but .. COVID is a pretty good excuse.

If one could go back in time, say, 5 years, and do something different at MU, what would it be?

Also .. how are DePaul, Creighton, Xavier, SLU, etc doing?   Honestly don't know, but I'd imagine they are in the same boat.

You wanna be SLU, aina?

GooooMarquette

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on September 23, 2020, 02:32:31 PM
You wanna be SLU, aina?


I'd take the medical school.

Other than that, nah....

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on September 23, 2020, 02:32:31 PM
You wanna be SLU, aina?

100% yes.  Did you know there's an Arby's 2 blocks off SLU's campus? 

Two. Blocks.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: TinyTimsLittleBrother on September 23, 2020, 09:00:04 AM
It's not just the lower enrollment that's the issue.  It's the lower net tuition figure.  That is down almost ten percent from a couple of years ago.  What that means is that not only do they have less students, but the students who remain are paying less.  That's not good.

The University is in a bad place financially right now.  The Board needs to be asking questions of the leadership.


Would it be better for the university if they totally filled enrollment at a discount or have enrollment fall short, but have a higher net tuition figure?
Is there a lesser of evil?
Or, it depends?

warriorchick

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on September 24, 2020, 07:47:33 AM

Would it be better for the university if they totally filled enrollment at a discount or have enrollment fall short, but have a higher net tuition figure?
Is there a lesser of evil?
Or, it depends?

It's probably somewhere in between. In theory, there is an algebra formula that would show the best combo.  But that's tough to figure out exactly what that is.
Have some patience, FFS.

The Sultan

At some point, you want the bodies in.  They are likely offering first year students a deeper discount for the first year only in hopes that they stick around and pay more in years 2-4.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

warriorchick

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 24, 2020, 08:09:13 AM
At some point, you want the bodies in.  They are likely offering first year students a deeper discount for the first year only in hopes that they stick around and pay more in years 2-4.

Except at Marquette, most scholarships are for the full 4 years as long as the student remains in good academic standing.  I suppose if the student's financial situation improves, they may get a smaller need-based grant.

There are small annual increases in base tuition, but expenses are increasing as well.
Have some patience, FFS.

The Sultan

Quote from: warriorchick on September 24, 2020, 08:51:03 AM
Except at Marquette, most scholarships are for the full 4 years as long as the student remains in good academic standing.  I suppose if the student's financial situation improves, they may get a smaller need-based grant.

There are small annual increases in base tuition, but expenses are increasing as well.


Well I said "likely."  But its pretty common practice when you are trying to meet enrollment targets to up an award for the freshman year.  If they are not doing that, then they're in the minority.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

warriorchick

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 24, 2020, 08:57:26 AM

Well I said "likely."  But its pretty common practice when you are trying to meet enrollment targets to up an award for the freshman year.  If they are not doing that, then they're in the minority.

Marquette just announced today that they will not be raising tuition next year.
Have some patience, FFS.


Warriors4ever

It looks like they tightened things regarding leaving this time.

shoothoops

#136
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on September 23, 2020, 06:09:17 PM
100% yes.  Did you know there's an Arby's 2 blocks off SLU's campus? 

Two. Blocks.

The Investment Firm of the Owner of the St. Louis Cardinals Baseball Team owns roughly 63 Arby's.

It's interesting considering St. Louis has had a popular local fast food Roast Beef Chain (Lion's Choice, about 25 locations) since 1967 which is much preferred by many locals. Lion's Choice is very good.


4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Macallan 18

The Marquette Tribune had a pair of stories this week about quarantine and isolation practices on campus. One of the off-campus quarantine/isolation options is the Ambassador Hotel.

https://marquettewire.org/4038638/news/students-quarantine-inside-the-ambassador-hotel/

https://marquettewire.org/4038243/news/students-with-a-positive-covid-19-test-must-live-in-isolation/

MU Fan in Connecticut


warriorchick

Quote from: Warriors4ever on September 26, 2020, 10:03:54 AM
It looks like they tightened things regarding leaving this time.

Teal?
Have some patience, FFS.

Warriors4ever

With Schroeder didn't they tell kids they could go elsewhere? This announcement discouraged that, and said they could only go to their permanent residence, and would need a negative test to return.  Was that part of the Schroeder order too?

warriorchick

#142
Quote from: Warriors4ever on September 26, 2020, 11:19:04 PM
With Schroeder didn't they tell kids they could go elsewhere? This announcement discouraged that, and said they could only go to their permanent residence, and would need a negative test to return.  Was that part of the Schroeder order too?

No.  They were discouraged from leaving there as well.

Many, many more kids left Cobeen.  They saw what happened in Schroeder and could prepare.
Have some patience, FFS.

The Lens

This is a hell of a quote:

"It is likely that Marquette will change more over the next year than any time since 1909, the year that Marquette became the first Catholic university in the world to enroll women with men," Lovell said.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2020/09/30/marquette-facing-deep-cuts-due-covid-19-lower-enrollment-outlook/3579205001/
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

TinyTimsLittleBrother

Quote from: The Lens on October 01, 2020, 08:25:14 PM
This is a hell of a quote:

"It is likely that Marquette will change more over the next year than any time since 1909, the year that Marquette became the first Catholic university in the world to enroll women with men," Lovell said.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2020/09/30/marquette-facing-deep-cuts-due-covid-19-lower-enrollment-outlook/3579205001/


He should be fired. Covid is making a problem that he created worse. But he created the problem to start.

The Lens

Quote from: TinyTimsLittleBrother on October 01, 2020, 08:36:32 PM
He should be fired. Covid is making a problem that he created worse. But he created the problem to start.

Didn't we essentially fast track his hiring to hire a basketball coach?  The timeline supports that.  That alone shows there are problems bigger than even Lovell.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

The Sultan

Quote from: The Lens on October 02, 2020, 08:41:59 AM
Didn't we essentially fast track his hiring to hire a basketball coach?  The timeline supports that.  That alone shows there are problems bigger than even Lovell.


I think the BB coach search quickened the end of a process whose course was pretty much set.

Lovell was considered a strong hire at the time. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Billy Hoyle

"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Warriors4ever

Yes Lovell was definitely considered a strong hire. I have a good friend who worked in administration at DePaul at the time, and she congratulated me on what she termed was a great hire.

The Lens

Quote from: Warriors4ever on October 02, 2020, 05:56:48 PM
Yes Lovell was definitely considered a strong hire. I have a good friend who worked in administration at DePaul at the time, and she congratulated me on what she termed was a great hire.

Next time you talk to JLP, congratulate her on retirement
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

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