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mu_hilltopper

What a total mess.  Nice job, everyone. 

#UnleashSean

I feed off the chaos.

mu_hilltopper

So .. curious for any law talking guys.  Our area passed an emergency order which granted our Health Department certain powers .. hours later, they issued an order to close all bars and restaurants.  If I remember the timing, the next day, the Gov issued stay-at-home order #1.

So .. if the Gov's order is overturned .. don't the local health department orders still stand?

Jockey

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 13, 2020, 05:38:38 PM
State republicans ask for a stay of the ruling so they can come up with a plan to re-Open Wisconsin. 

Hope they don't feel rushed

So it's more about a power grab than about Covid?

mu_hilltopper

Also .. I can't wait to tell my kids they're going to school tomorrow.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jockey on May 13, 2020, 06:12:31 PM
So it's more about a power grab than about Covid?

Oh, certainly not.  Rule of law or something
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WarriorDad

Quote from: Johnny B on May 13, 2020, 05:37:52 PM
Its called partisan tribalism. If trump does it. Its great. Hes doing a great job. If a guy with a D next to his name does it. Its terrible. Its tyranny. Its communism. Both sides do this but yeahhh

That goes both ways with endless examples on both sides.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

Johnny B

Quote from: WarriorDad on May 13, 2020, 07:21:44 PM
That goes both ways with endless examples on both sides.
Yeah thats what i said

Jockey

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 13, 2020, 07:19:15 PM
Oh, certainly not.  Rule of law or something

Are you saying Wisconsin is the only state that follows the rule of law?

The Sultan

Now counties are doing their own safer at home orders which the court left the door open to.

Had a statewide plan based on White House guidelines and now we will have a mish mash of various county and city based orders.

What a f*cking mess.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

ZiggysFryBoy

Or, local and county health departments can do what is best for their area.

Dane Co already issued virtually the same order as the governor, so madison is still shut down.

Counties up north with no cases can reopen as they see fit.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on May 13, 2020, 06:25:44 PM
Also .. I can't wait to tell my kids they're going to school tomorrow.

The court ruled that schools stay closed.

I'd still F with your kids though.

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 13, 2020, 08:59:11 PM
The court ruled that schools stay closed.

I'd still F with your kids though.

I 100% did that.   If you are a parent who has not done that already, you're not doing it right.

Lighthouse 84

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 13, 2020, 08:58:16 PM
Or, local and county health departments can do what is best for their area.

Dane Co already issued virtually the same order as the governor, so madison is still shut down.

Counties up north with no cases can reopen as they see fit.
The Wisconsin legislature can always ratify Evers' order or make their own law. SCOTUS is just saying Evers doesn't have the authority on his own to do what he was doing. If the legislature comes in and does the same thing, SCOTUS will affirm it.
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ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on May 13, 2020, 09:04:11 PM
I 100% did that.   If you are a parent who has not done that already, you're not doing it right.

I told my wife we should wake them up in the morning, make them get dressed (Catholic school = uniform) and drive them in.

The only thing they know is that the safer at home was ruled out today.

Kids are dumb.   ;D

The Sultan

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 13, 2020, 08:58:16 PM
Or, local and county health departments can do what is best for their area.

Dane Co already issued virtually the same order as the governor, so madison is still shut down.

Counties up north with no cases can reopen as they see fit.


People travel you know. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

warriorchick

Have some patience, FFS.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 13, 2020, 09:16:18 PM

People travel you know.

People traveled with Safe at Home too.  This isn't the USSR.  Yet.  Papers?  Where are your papers?

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 13, 2020, 08:51:58 PM
Now counties are doing their own safer at home orders which the court left the door open to.

Had a statewide plan based on White House guidelines and now we will have a mish mash of various county and city based orders.

What a f*cking mess.

Eh This is a lot better. Doesn't make much sense for crivitz to be shut down be cause milwaukee is screwed.

mu_hilltopper

Anecdotal evidence .. we often go up north to a cabin .. the tavern on the lake has a Facebook page which announced the stay-at-home order was overturned and the bar would be open at 7pm.

In 3 hours, the post has been 'liked' a whopping 143 times, with townies eagerly stating they'd be right over to celebrate.

What utter chaos.


SCOWIS not granting a stay of their order is just a killer.  Had they done so, the Gov and legislature would have had a hard deadline to negotiate.  Now they have no deadline, and I suspect they will not be able to agree because of course they can't, and it's officially Lord of the Flies time in Wisconsin.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on May 13, 2020, 09:33:04 PM
Anecdotal evidence .. we often go up north to a cabin .. the tavern on the lake has a Facebook page which announced the stay-at-home order was overturned and the bar would be open at 7pm.

In 3 hours, the post has been 'liked' a whopping 143 times, with townies eagerly stating they'd be right over to celebrate.

What utter chaos.


SCOWIS not granting a stay of their order is just a killer.  Had they done so, the Gov and legislature would have had a hard deadline to negotiate.  Now they have no deadline, and I suspect they will not be able to agree because of course they can't, and it's officially Lord of the Flies time in Wisconsin.

Vos and Fitz missed out badly by not having a plan on Evers desk tomorrow morning.  The 6 day stay was erroneously reported earlier today, that would have been a good compromise, putting the deadline at May 21st.

Marquette Fan

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on May 13, 2020, 09:04:11 PM
I 100% did that.   If you are a parent who has not done that already, you're not doing it right.

My kids would want to go back to school though :).  And everytime my younger one has a meltdown when I'm on a conference call I wish they could go back to school too :).

ZiggysFryBoy

Antibody screening is now available at UW health and SSM, for Madison area folks.  Scheduling out into June right now. 

Johnny B

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on May 13, 2020, 09:33:04 PM
Anecdotal evidence .. we often go up north to a cabin .. the tavern on the lake has a Facebook page which announced the stay-at-home order was overturned and the bar would be open at 7pm.

In 3 hours, the post has been 'liked' a whopping 143 times, with townies eagerly stating they'd be right over to celebrate.

What utter chaos.


SCOWIS not granting a stay of their order is just a killer.  Had they done so, the Gov and legislature would have had a hard deadline to negotiate.  Now they have no deadline, and I suspect they will not be able to agree because of course they can't, and it's officially Lord of the Flies time in Wisconsin.
The odds any have it is almost zero. If there spaced out or outside at this point cant blame em

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Johnny B on May 13, 2020, 10:07:38 PM
The odds any have it is almost zero. If there spaced out or outside at this point cant blame em

And the odds that someone up there will have it in the next 2-4 weeks are exponentially higher than they were a day ago.  And when families take their summer 'up north' and there is no place to put the sick because the tiny hospitals are full... it'll be just like Long Island all over again.  Obviously, the scale will be different.

Good luck everyone, stay safe.

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