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Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: BallBoy on March 27, 2020, 10:16:07 AM
The term mid major was originally coined to reference to all conferences not in the power five.

Really?  I dont think this is true.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: We R Final Four on March 27, 2020, 10:15:09 AM
OK--so UConn was a high major, but they are in a now in a mid major conference...so they are a mid major?
They certainly do not stroll through their conference schedule.
But, on Sept 1st (or whenever they are considered to have joined the BE) they will be elevated overnight to high major status?

I'm of the opinion that the AAC is a mid-major conference, others say they are a high major conference. So in my perception, yes, UConn was a high major, now a mid major, and are about to become a high major again. I don't understand why you would think that a team's status couldn't change.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 27, 2020, 10:23:41 AM

While the term "mid-major" has existed for awhile, it didn't mean much and wasn't used as often as it is now.  For instance, I don't recall anyone labelling Marquette as a "mid-major" when they went to the Final Four as a member of CUSA.

Billy Packer did around that time. Not sure if it was during the run, but definitely around that time. It caused quite a ruckus on the old board.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2020, 10:39:53 AM
Billy Packer did around that time. Not sure if it was during the run, but definitely around that time. It caused quite a ruckus on the old board.

Ah....

Well that's kinda dumb.  They had four teams in the NCAA tournament and three teams ranked by the end of the year.
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MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2020, 10:39:53 AM
Billy Packer did around that time. Not sure if it was during the run, but definitely around that time. It caused quite a ruckus on the old board.

Billy Packer - I think everyone celebrated when he retired.

According to Billy wasn't everyone a mid-major except ACC universities.

Its DJOver

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 27, 2020, 10:28:22 AM
Really?  I dont think this is true.

I believe that mid major was originally any team that was not high major, and high major was based on which conferences sent their champions to what eventually evolved into the "New Year's Six" bowl games; it started as a football term.  BCS kind of muddled things, CFP and basketball only conferences muddled it even more.  Now it's 100% a subjective term, I've been using the definition that TAMU presented for a while now.  You can be mid major and be elite.  UCONN went from high to mid and now back to high major.
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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

mug644

Quote from: onepostdavis on March 27, 2020, 10:27:28 AM
Can we get back to focusing on actual transfers, who MU is in on, as opposed to a 10-page pissing match about the difference between high-major and mid-major?

I guess not.

SWARM!

Can you guys please shut the frack up about the meaningless "major" classifications?  I'd like to actually follow some transfer news.  Thanks!

muguru

Mentioned this last night, but MU is on Justin Turner's final 6 along with Missouri, Arkansas, Louisville, Xavier & Iowa State. he says he has really good relationships with the staffs at Arkansas and Missouri
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

Pakuni

@jakeweingarten: Bowling Green graduate transfer Justin Turner tells @Stockrisers he's down to six schools: Missouri, Xavier, Marquette, Arkansas, Louisville, Iowa State.

Arguably the nation's top-available transfer. 19 point per game scorer.

Tha Hound

#385
In case you guys missed it, PT on twitter shared an image of the impact bringing in both Carton and Turner would have on our TRank. It would move us up from 78 to 42.

Turner alone would move us from 78 to 56




Pakuni

@GoodmanHoops: Illinois sophomore transfer Alan Griffin (8.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg) told me that he is considering the following right now:

Miami, Arizona, Marquette, Dayton, Iowa State, Texas, Syracuse, Duke

Tha Hound

Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2020, 01:20:45 PM
@GoodmanHoops: Illinois sophomore transfer Alan Griffin (8.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg) told me that he is considering the following right now:

Miami, Arizona, Marquette, Dayton, Iowa State, Texas, Syracuse, Duke

EHhh yeah that is not the easiest group to recruit against

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: TAMU Garcia on March 27, 2020, 10:36:27 AM
I'm of the opinion that the AAC is a mid-major conference, others say they are a high major conference. So in my perception, yes, UConn was a high major, now a mid major, and are about to become a high major again. I don't understand why you would think that a team's status couldn't change.

by that "thinking" Gonzaga and BYU are mid-majors, UNLV back in the day was a mid-major, Cincy is a mid-major.  Conference affiliation is a lazy way to classify. Are GU, UConn or Cincy a lesser program than Rutgers, Washington State, Oregon State, Penn State, etc? No.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 27, 2020, 01:35:02 PM
by that "thinking" Gonzaga and BYU are mid-majors, UNLV back in the day was a mid-major, Cincy is a mid-major.  Conference affiliation is a lazy way to classify. Are GU, UConn or Cincy a lesser program than Rutgers, Washington State, Oregon State, Penn State, etc? No.

When did I say they were lesser programs?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 27, 2020, 01:35:02 PM
by that "thinking" Gonzaga and BYU are mid-majors, UNLV back in the day was a mid-major, Cincy is a mid-major.  Conference affiliation is a lazy way to classify. Are GU, UConn or Cincy a lesser program than Rutgers, Washington State, Oregon State, Penn State, etc? No.

Going back to UMass though, they're a far cry from any of the UNLV, Cinci, BYU or Zags
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Richard Shaw's Retired Number on March 27, 2020, 11:37:54 AM
Can you guys please shut the frack up about the meaningless "major" classifications?  I'd like to actually follow some transfer news.  Thanks!

It actually cracks me up.  Comes up a couple of times each year - and I'm always shocked how many people care to state their case!

muguru

Quote from: Tha Hound on March 27, 2020, 01:27:38 PM
EHhh yeah that is not the easiest group to recruit against

His younger brother is committed to Duke...think that's where he ends up
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Griffin is good, but if he wants to play, he's not going to go to Duke.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

lawdog77

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 27, 2020, 02:22:47 PM
Griffin is good, but if he wants to play, he's not going to go to Duke.
Duke has it backwards. You don't sign the more talented brother first.

GoldenDieners32

Freshman guard from kentucky Johnny Juzang is transferring

WarriorPride68

Keep an eye on Auburn for DJ Carton...

GoldenDieners32

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on March 27, 2020, 02:54:52 PM
Freshman guard from kentucky Johnny Juzang is transferring
Brother played at Harvard when we played them in the NIT couple years ago

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on March 27, 2020, 02:54:52 PM
Freshman guard from kentucky Johnny Juzang is transferring

We were in on him originally. Don't think he's a guard tho.

Edit: I suppose he is listed as as guard some places, but he's 6-7.
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

genious expert

Quote from: GoldenEagles32 on March 27, 2020, 02:54:52 PM
Freshman guard from kentucky Johnny Juzang is transferring

He had an offer from us but that was a Stan connection with the Compton Magic

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