2020 Coaching Carousel

[4everwarriors]

Woj ta UWGB, aina?

[Newsdreams]

Woj ta UWGB, aina?

He would take a good class to UWGB, hey?

[WhiteTrash]

Colleges are making millions off these players. Time for UWGB to upgrade.

[Viper]

1. Why at MU?
2. We don't have room.

1. Why not?
2. Make room

[MU82]

It's strange because there are more than a few posters on their board that are applauding this move, saying it was time for him to go. Not sure what they were/are expecting from that program.

They didn't want to accept mediocrity, obviously!

[The Sultan]

1. Why not?
2. Make room

1. Because he's been nothing more than slightly above average at a low major.

2. Who are you firing?

[Hards Alumni]

Or who they're going to get for that salary.

I am available, spread the word!

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I am available, spread the word!

Quite a few "qualified" applicants round these parts.

[tower912]

Ners gets my vote.   Then Guru.

[muguru]

Ners gets my vote.   Then Guru.

You thought Green Bay played fast now?? Let me Coach them and they would be playing MUCH faster then they even played previously.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Statement from Green Bay:

https://greenbayphoenix.com/news/2020/5/18/statement-from-uw-green-bay-on-mens-basketball-program.aspx

"We are a Division I University and remain committed to continuing the legacy of our outstanding Division I athletics program in the future."

[THRILLHO]

It's strange because there are more than a few posters on their board that are applauding this move, saying it was time for him to go. Not sure what they were/are expecting from that program.

I guess I agree with them. His best year was his first year, with Wardle's players, and it's been downhill from there. This year was his 5th year, with a very experienced team, and they finished 100 spots lower in kenpom than his first year team. They've had some limited success by hiring really young guys on their way up (Kowalczyk, Wardle) and this guy doesn't seem to be on his way up after these 5 years. I admit the timing is bizarre and if they were firing him for his performance they should've done it earlier. Maybe he was trying to negotiate an extension and they got offended.

[muguru]

Statement from Green Bay:

https://greenbayphoenix.com/news/2020/5/18/statement-from-uw-green-bay-on-mens-basketball-program.aspx

"We are a Division I University and remain committed to continuing the legacy of our outstanding Division I athletics program in the future."

This release sure makes it sound like it was mutual...yesterday Goodman reported the staff was "blindsided" by it.

[The Sultan]

Releases are often written that way.  It doesn't do Darner any good not to play along as long as they abide by the terms of his contract.

[The Sultan]

I guess I agree with them. His best year was his first year, with Wardle's players, and it's been downhill from there. This year was his 5th year, with a very experienced team, and they finished 100 spots lower in kenpom than his first year team. They've had some limited success by hiring really young guys on their way up (Kowalczyk, Wardle) and this guy doesn't seem to be on his way up after these 5 years. I admit the timing is bizarre and if they were firing him for his performance they should've done it earlier. Maybe he was trying to negotiate an extension and they got offended.

UWGB and UWM are poorly resourced schools in general, and their athletic departments even moreso.  I would guess that both of these jobs are in the lower third of the Horizon salary-wise, and the only time they have had any sustained success is when they were the stepping stone for coaches who went elsewhere and succeeded.  (Bo and Pearl at UWM, Dick Bennett at UWGB)

Really outside of when UWGB was coached by Dick Bennett and he recruited his own son to play there, they've been a non-entity basketball wise.  That was 25 years ago. 

I'm not saying Darner was the answer, but to think that either of these schools is going to be consistently successful with their crappy salaries and resources is expecting a miracle.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

UWGB and UWM are poorly resourced schools in general, and their athletic departments even moreso.  I would guess that both of these jobs are in the lower third of the Horizon salary-wise, and the only time they have had any sustained success is when they were the stepping stone for coaches who went elsewhere and succeeded.  (Bo and Pearl at UWM, Dick Bennett at UWGB)

Really outside of when UWGB was coached by Dick Bennett and he recruited his own son to play there, they've been a non-entity basketball wise.  That was 25 years ago. 

I'm not saying Darner was the answer, but to think that either of these schools is going to be consistently successful with their crappy salaries and resources is expecting a miracle.

I remember following the Tanned D-bag up to a game in the casino, where they ass stomped MU like MU was the directional school.  I think Tommy Naismith blew the soccer field donation in the casino later than night.  Actually u think that stiff has ever stepped foot in a casino or thrown back a cold one?

[Billy Hoyle]

I remember following the Tanned D-bag up to a game in the casino, where they ass stomped MU like MU was the directional school.  I think Tommy Naismith blew the soccer field donation in the casino later than night.  Actually u think that stiff has ever stepped foot in a casino or thrown back a cold one?

[THRILLHO]

UWGB and UWM are poorly resourced schools in general, and their athletic departments even moreso.  I would guess that both of these jobs are in the lower third of the Horizon salary-wise, and the only time they have had any sustained success is when they were the stepping stone for coaches who went elsewhere and succeeded.  (Bo and Pearl at UWM, Dick Bennett at UWGB)

Really outside of when UWGB was coached by Dick Bennett and he recruited his own son to play there, they've been a non-entity basketball wise.  That was 25 years ago. 

I'm not saying Darner was the answer, but to think that either of these schools is going to be consistently successful with their crappy salaries and resources is expecting a miracle.

Maybe they have unrealistic expectations, but maybe they also have little to lose by cutting their losses when a guy isn't moving in the right direction. It could be they have great confidence in their ability to identify and hire up-and-comers (like a low-major version of the Butler way), and don't mind being a stepping stone. I would guess they don't ever anticipate being popular enough to get to a point where they can open up the bank to keep someone around.

[The Equalizer]

I remember following the Tanned D-bag up to a game in the casino, where they ass stomped MU like MU was the directional school.  I think Tommy Naismith blew the soccer field donation in the casino later than night.  Actually u think that stiff has ever stepped foot in a casino or thrown back a cold one?

Our only game at UWGB (a loss) came during the Buzz Williams era:
http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/184190571.html/

I don't believe Buzz has ever thrown back a cold one.  One of his quirks and features.

[bananahammock]

Our only game at UWGB (a loss) came during the Buzz Williams era:
http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/184190571.html/
Or he's referring to the So Miss game in GB.

I don't believe Buzz has ever thrown back a cold one.  One of his quirks and features.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Our only game at UWGB (a loss) came during the Buzz Williams era:
http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/184190571.html/

I don't believe Buzz has ever thrown back a cold one.  One of his quirks and features.

Ur saying the game didnt happen?? 😂😂
Were u born yet??

[muguru]

Hadn't seen this anywhere until tonight...this is really surprising. Would love to have him on staff if Wojo could find a position for him somehow..In a surprise move, the Vanderbilt men's basketball team has parted ways with assistant coaches David Grace and Ricardo Patton according to a Twitter posting.

    DAVID GRACE - VANDERBILT

    A feared recruiter, Grace is widely considered one of the best recruiters in the country. In 2016, he was ranked the best recruiter in the West and the 7th-best recruiter nationally based on an ESPN coaching peer survey. He helped the Bruins establish the No. 2 recruiting class for 2018, including nine top 100 prospects across back-to-back recruiting classes. Prior to a great run at UCLA, the Air Force veteran served under Craig Robinson from 2009-2013. During that time, he helped the Beavers to the highest five-year win total (78) since 1988-92. In addition, Grace played a key role in landing two nationally ranked recruits and lured Jared Cunningham to Oregon State who would later be selected in the first-round of the NBA Draft. He got his start in collegiate coaching at Sacramento State in 2006, recruiting 2006-07 Big Sky Freshman of the Year Vinnie McGhee before moving on to become the top assistant and recruiting coordinator at USF. Lastly, he is also known for turning around a South Mountain High School team that won just four games in the year before he arrived to take them to a state championship.

[1SE]

Is Diener still in Italy? Seems like UWGB would be a good fit for him- isn't he from ip that way?

[TedBaxter]

Hadn't seen this anywhere until tonight...this is really surprising. Would love to have him on staff if Wojo could find a position for him somehow..In a surprise move, the Vanderbilt men's basketball team has parted ways with assistant coaches David Grace and Ricardo Patton according to a Twitter posting.

    DAVID GRACE - VANDERBILT

    A feared recruiter, Grace is widely considered one of the best recruiters in the country. In 2016, he was ranked the best recruiter in the West and the 7th-best recruiter nationally based on an ESPN coaching peer survey. He helped the Bruins establish the No. 2 recruiting class for 2018, including nine top 100 prospects across back-to-back recruiting classes. Prior to a great run at UCLA, the Air Force veteran served under Craig Robinson from 2009-2013. During that time, he helped the Beavers to the highest five-year win total (78) since 1988-92. In addition, Grace played a key role in landing two nationally ranked recruits and lured Jared Cunningham to Oregon State who would later be selected in the first-round of the NBA Draft. He got his start in collegiate coaching at Sacramento State in 2006, recruiting 2006-07 Big Sky Freshman of the Year Vinnie McGhee before moving on to become the top assistant and recruiting coordinator at USF. Lastly, he is also known for turning around a South Mountain High School team that won just four games in the year before he arrived to take them to a state championship.

Get a little skeptical of assistant coaches who are considered to be strong recruiters and then are let go after the year.  He was also let go at UCLA, but that was after Alford was fired, but if an AD and head coach recognize coaching talent, a guy like Grace would be in hot demand.  We'll see where he lands.

[The Sultan]

Is Diener still in Italy? Seems like UWGB would be a good fit for him- isn't he from ip that way?

He's from Fond du Lac.  So not really.