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tower912

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Izzo goes after fans
« on: February 05, 2020, 05:15:06 AM »
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2020/02/05/tom-izzo-michigan-state-basketball-fans/4664536002/

K last year having to defend his freshmen, now Izzo having to defend his players.     Those are two of the pillars who have had it with their fanbase.   
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2020, 05:57:22 AM »
 I'm a man.  I'm 40.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2020, 07:13:52 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on February 05, 2020, 05:15:06 AM
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2020/02/05/tom-izzo-michigan-state-basketball-fans/4664536002/

K last year having to defend his freshmen, now Izzo having to defend his players.     Those are two of the pillars who have had it with their fanbase.   

Let's bring him here! He'll love our fans!
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2020, 08:00:28 AM »
There is no better way of stopping fans from sending "abusive social media posts" than an old man yelling at a press conference.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2020, 08:31:29 AM »
Not sure his age has anything to do with it.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2020, 08:40:01 AM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 05, 2020, 08:00:28 AM
There is no better way of stopping fans from sending "abusive social media posts" than an old man yelling at a press conference.

Ageism and sexism.


You forgot to mention his race for the trifecta.   
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2020, 08:44:23 AM »
Izzo is trash
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2020, 08:50:19 AM »
they've got to have their own "msu scoop"  better tell his players not to look there, right jh?
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2020, 09:23:37 AM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 05, 2020, 08:44:23 AM
Izzo is trash

I actually think he made a lot of good points. He even asked that critics go after him, not his players.

I understand why you might dislike him; he's made some dopey (and even hurtful) statements in the past, and done a couple of less-than-cool things. But IMHO, this actually reflects pretty well on him. I also think it reflects how most coaches and athletes feel about this issue.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2020, 09:52:58 AM »
Quote from: MU82 on February 05, 2020, 09:23:37 AM
I actually think he made a lot of good points. He even asked that critics go after him, not his players.

I understand why you might dislike him; he's made some dopey (and even hurtful) statements in the past, and done a couple of less-than-cool things. But IMHO, this actually reflects pretty well on him. I also think it reflects how most coaches and athletes feel about this issue.

His opinion on all things should be ignored. 
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2020, 10:25:12 AM »
Despite the "old man yelling at cloud" element to this, it's fine that Izzo is standing up for his players.

And I'm sure that the old, wealthy authority figures of America sleep well knowing Cheeks forever has their backs.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2020, 10:30:02 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on February 05, 2020, 05:15:06 AM
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2020/02/05/tom-izzo-michigan-state-basketball-fans/4664536002/

K last year having to defend his freshmen, now Izzo having to defend his players.     Those are two of the pillars who have had it with their fanbase.   

Showed more passion denouncing this than he has ever shown denouncing the systemic sexual assault indiscretions of the East Lansing institution.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2020, 11:04:39 AM »
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on February 05, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
Showed more passion denouncing this than he has ever shown denouncing the systemic sexual assault indiscretions of the East Lansing institution.

This and he always seems to rant about “social media” and things after losses.  Pretty convenient
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2020, 11:05:27 AM »
Izzo has made mistakes.  But he isn't wrong about this.   
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2020, 11:07:27 AM »
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on February 05, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
Showed more passion denouncing this than he has ever shown denouncing the systemic sexual assault indiscretions of the East Lansing institution.

True.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 05, 2020, 11:04:39 AM
This and he always seems to rant about “social media” and things after losses.  Pretty convenient

True.

Quote from: tower912 on February 05, 2020, 11:05:27 AM
Izzo has made mistakes.  But he isn't wrong about this.   

And true.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2020, 11:09:16 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on February 05, 2020, 11:05:27 AM
Izzo has made mistakes.  But he isn't wrong about this.

The way he was treating Aaron Henry last year in the tourney though, It'd be very fair to call him a hypocrite.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2020, 11:13:57 AM »
Quote from: Its DJOver on February 05, 2020, 11:09:16 AM
The way he was treating Aaron Henry last year in the tourney though, It'd be very fair to call him a hypocrite.

Well ... I wouldn't have treated Aaron Henry like that. And I don't blame you for calling him a hypocrite.

But his defenders probably can make a pretty good argument for an "I can yell at my son, but don't you dare yell at my son" kind of thing.

Coaches yell at players. I thought Izzo was over the top that time and criticized him for it. But coaches do yell at players. Always have, always will.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2020, 01:42:05 PM »
Quote from: tower912 on February 05, 2020, 11:05:27 AM
Izzo has made mistakes.  But he isn't wrong about this.

grown men who tweet insults at 18-22 year old college kids (usually behind an alias to prevent them from being identified too) deserve to be criticized and more.

It's one thing for a coach to do it while trying to make the player better, but some 40 year old know it all who probably didn't even make his HS team (and probably never went to a four-year college) should be called out and shamed. Seriously, who are we to claim a kid "doesn't care," "quit" based on what we watched on TV or from the stands.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2020, 01:44:14 PM by Billy Hoyle »
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2020, 01:46:17 PM »
Quote from: Pakuni on February 05, 2020, 10:25:12 AM
Despite the "old man yelling at cloud" element to this, it's fine that Izzo is standing up for his players.


Right.  I have no problem with him doing this.  It's just not going to be very effective on geting it to stop.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2020, 04:20:45 PM »
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 05, 2020, 01:42:05 PM
grown men who tweet insults at 18-22 year old college kids (usually behind an alias to prevent them from being identified too) deserve to be criticized and more.

It's one thing for a coach to do it while trying to make the player better, but some 40 year old know it all who probably didn't even make his HS team (and probably never went to a four-year college) should be called out and shamed. Seriously, who are we to claim a kid "doesn't care," "quit" based on what we watched on TV or from the stands.

You've spend time among the badger fanbase, I see.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2020, 05:33:52 PM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 05, 2020, 09:52:58 AM
His opinion on all things should be ignored.

Your opinion is noted - and ignored.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2020, 06:22:24 PM »
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 05, 2020, 04:20:45 PM
You've spend time among the badger fanbase, I see.

Well said.

I see an awful lot of tourists in DT Seattle wearing Badger kit. And to a man, whenever I ask if they went to UW the answer is no.

Frankly, I just don't get that.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2020, 02:05:48 PM »
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 05, 2020, 04:20:45 PM
You've spend time among the badger fanbase, I see.

nope.  But it is definitely an issue with all fan bases, MU included.  I will give credit to an old roommate, a Badger grad and die hard, who chastised on FB those, including some of his friends, who attacked Diamond Stone on social media for not choosing Buckyville.
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2020, 03:19:53 PM »
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Re: Izzo goes after fans
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2020, 06:05:35 AM »
MSU has got to be an underdoggie at illini-when was the last time izzy lost 4 in a row?  jh has got to be thinking...what was i thing?
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