NCAA investigations cont.

[brewcity77]

To be fair, Chicos never said *what* summer the NCAA would announce these allegations.

Oh damn 

[Earl Tatum]

Why don't the NCAA check out these one-and-doners. Kansas, Kentucky,
North Carolina, and Duke. How many of those players attemd classes,
and have passing grades for one school year.

[Uncle Rico]

Why don't the NCAA check out these one-and-doners. Kansas, Kentucky,
North Carolina, and Duke. How many of those players attemd classes,
and have passing grades for one school year.

Who cares

[muguru]

Danielle Lerner

@danielle_lerner


Chris Mack and Vince Tyra will hold a Zoom call with men's basketball players and their families later today to explain the timeline. No guarantee Louisville won't get a postseason ban, but Tyra thinks the process will take at least a year so 2021 NCAA Tourney still a possibility

[jesmu84]

Wake me up when Kansas/Self or Arizona/Miller are held accountable

[WhiteTrash]

Danielle Lerner

@danielle_lerner


Chris Mack and Vince Tyra will hold a Zoom call with men's basketball players and their families later today to explain the timeline. No guarantee Louisville won't get a postseason ban, but Tyra thinks the process will take at least a year so 2021 NCAA Tourney still a possibility

I wondered why Mack took that job because of this...but then i saw his salary. He got a huge payday and zero responsibility for that mess. I'd have done the same thing.

[wadesworld]

I wondered why Mack took that job because of this...but then i saw his salary. He got a huge payday and zero responsibility for that mess. I'd have done the same thing.

And almost certainly has an out in his contract (buyout goes out the window or something) if the NCAA actually decides to hammer them (which they won't).

[Billy Hoyle]

Wake me up when Kansas/Self or Arizona/Miller are held accountable

you've been asleep for 7 months, apparently.

https://publicaffairs.ku.edu/noa

[Uncle Rico]

you've been asleep for 7 months, apparently.

https://publicaffairs.ku.edu/noa

When did they get fired or put on probation?

[GooooMarquette]

you've been asleep for 7 months, apparently.

https://publicaffairs.ku.edu/noa

He said when they are held accountable, not when they shuffle a bunch of papers back and forth....

[GoldenWarrior11]

I think the most disparaging outcome of the UL scandal is that Louisville made well-known risks in hiring/retaining Pitino and Petrino, both of whom had national scandals before 2013), but did so because it valued winning at all costs on a national scale in both football/men's basketball in order to get into the ACC.  Remember, it came down to UConn and Louisville after Maryland bolted the ACC for the B1G, and, from accounts, Louisville snuck-in ahead  of UConn due to the football edge. 

If Louisville had the chance to do it over, they would do everything the exact same over again.  Why?  Because turning their heads the other way not only allowed them to win more in the two high-profile sports, but also got them a golden ticket out of G5 purgatory and into the P5 country club.

They might be put on probation for another five years, wins might get vacated (again), scholarships might get reduced, etc. - but Louisville still got into the ACC (and is making $30+ million annually), compared to the $1.7 million annually the AAC (the league that Louisville would have been stuck in) was getting through their last contract.

[wadesworld]

I think the most disparaging outcome of the UL scandal is that Louisville made well-known risks in hiring/retaining Pitino and Petrino, both of whom had national scandals before 2013), but did so because it valued winning at all costs on a national scale in both football/men's basketball in order to get into the ACC.  Remember, it came down to UConn and Louisville after Maryland bolted the ACC for the B1G, and, from accounts, Louisville snuck-in ahead  of UConn due to the football edge. 

If Louisville had the chance to do it over, they would do everything the exact same over again.  Why?  Because turning their heads the other way not only allowed them to win more in the two high-profile sports, but also got them a golden ticket out of G5 purgatory and into the P5 country club.

They might be put on probation for another five years, wins might get vacated (again), scholarships might get reduced, etc. - but Louisville still got into the ACC (and is making $30+ million annually), compared to the $1.7 million annually the AAC (the league that Louisville would have been stuck in) was getting through their last contract.

The only thing they would change is not firing anyone from their athletic department and daring the NCAA to force their hand.  We now know (Kansas, LSU, Arizona) that doesn't happen with the NCAA.  Their biggest mistake was acting on their own, assuming if they didn't the NCAA would actually lay the hammer down.

[WhiteTrash]

I think the most disparaging outcome of the UL scandal is that Louisville made well-known risks in hiring/retaining Pitino and Petrino, both of whom had national scandals before 2013), but did so because it valued winning at all costs on a national scale in both football/men's basketball in order to get into the ACC.  Remember, it came down to UConn and Louisville after Maryland bolted the ACC for the B1G, and, from accounts, Louisville snuck-in ahead  of UConn due to the football edge. 

If Louisville had the chance to do it over, they would do everything the exact same over again.  Why?  Because turning their heads the other way not only allowed them to win more in the two high-profile sports, but also got them a golden ticket out of G5 purgatory and into the P5 country club.

They might be put on probation for another five years, wins might get vacated (again), scholarships might get reduced, etc. - but Louisville still got into the ACC (and is making $30+ million annually), compared to the $1.7 million annually the AAC (the league that Louisville would have been stuck in) was getting through their last contract.

Cheating pays well.

[WarriorDad]

With COVID it is surprising any new charges levied.

Speaking of which, is Louisville near the top of all time accused by the NCAA?

[The Sultan]

With COVID it is surprising any new charges levied.

Why?

[Billy Hoyle]

When did they get fired or put on probation?

It's a process, like a court proceeding. Investigation, charges, ability to respond by the accused. The difference is the accused is arguing against the judge. There's no ability to plea.

Sorry it can't all happen in three days and be litigated by Twitter and message board conversations.

[Billy Hoyle]

With COVID it is surprising any new charges levied.

Speaking of which, is Louisville near the top of all time accused by the NCAA?

Not really. Enforcement has been on the Lille campus and investigating for a while, well before COVID hit. These things aren't done overnight.

[Uncle Rico]

It's a process, like a court proceeding. Investigation, charges, ability to respond by the accused. The difference is the accused is arguing against the judge. There's no ability to plea.

Sorry it can't all happen in three days and be litigated by Twitter and message board conversations.

Then they haven't been held accountable for anything.  Gotcha

[WarriorDad]

Not really. Enforcement has been on the Lille campus and investigating for a while, well before COVID hit. These things aren't done overnight.

What about interviews and such?  Isn't there a reason law enforcement does interrogations at the precinct and not via the phone?  They can tell if you are lying, sweating, eye contact.  Overselling it a bit here, but if there were interviews still to be conducted I would think COVID only slows that process down.

[WhiteTrash]

Not really. Enforcement has been on the Lille campus and investigating for a while, well before COVID hit. These things aren't done overnight.

Not true, the Louisville fan board says their innocent and it's a witch hunt against U of L. Case closed.   

[Lennys Tap]

What about interviews and such?  Isn't there a reason law enforcement does interrogations at the precinct and not via the phone?  They can tell if you are lying, sweating, eye contact.  Overselling it a bit here, but if there were interviews still to be conducted I would think COVID only slows that process down.

They use the eye test instead of the evidence? How Scoopy!

[Dr. Blackheart]

They use the eye test instead of the evidence? How Scoopy!

Maybe the smell test would be more effective, hey?

[Dawson Rental]

Maybe the smell test would be more effective, hey?

Unfortunately, the smell test has not proven as effective this time around as it did during the exotic dancer/prostitute scandal. 

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Unfortunately, the smell test has not proven as effective this time around as it did during the exotic dancer/prostitute scandal.

UofL started getting better smelling strippers?

[Dawson Rental]

UofL started getting better smelling strippers?

So far, no allegations of strippers at all this time out.