COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[pbiflyer]

COVID-19 hospitalizations surged past 15,000 in Florida on Tuesday with more than 3,000 people requiring intensive care, setting another record as pandemic-related patients continue to fill beds, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
The federal agency reported 15,169 inpatient beds in use for COVID-19 in Florida, representing about 27% of patients at the 231 hospitals that reported data.
HHS showed 3,050 intensive-care beds in use for COVID-19 patients, making up 47% of total ICU beds at reporting hospitals

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-coronavirus-record-hospitalizations-20210810-bn6sudypfnhbxigie43hjxd3oy-story.html

[pacearrow02]

If you want to know, 20-30% of all ICU beds in hard hit areas right now are strictly occupied by COVID patients.

There is never, ever, such high usage for a single illness. Not even close.

The result is stopping any and all other surgeries. There are gunshot victims being told to wait for surgery, because an ICU bed is not available. I have a friends dad, who needed cancer surgery that would prolong his life, canceled, because no ICU beds available.

That is what happens when 20-30% of all ICU beds are tied up for a single illness. And its not old people now. It is much younger. There was a couple in our neighborhood, both low 30's, both fully vaccinated in May, both were in the ICU and barely made it. The church had to rally together to care for their two young kids (no family around) for the 2-weeks their parents were on ventilators.

Ya the 20-30% is what Wisconsin is seeing, probably a little lower. 

[pacearrow02]

Citation needed.

https://www.ruralhealthresearch.org/mirror/13/1302/surge-capacity.pdf

Looks at difference between rural and urban.  Not a perfect look since they looked at licensed beds rather then the more realistic number of staffed beds but even if looking at licensed beds average ICU capacity is about 70.  Couldn't find anything on staffed beds but would guess it be pretty close to the 80%.

[forgetful]

COVID-19 hospitalizations surged past 15,000 in Florida on Tuesday with more than 3,000 people requiring intensive care, setting another record as pandemic-related patients continue to fill beds, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
The federal agency reported 15,169 inpatient beds in use for COVID-19 in Florida, representing about 27% of patients at the 231 hospitals that reported data.
HHS showed 3,050 intensive-care beds in use for COVID-19 patients, making up 47% of total ICU beds at reporting hospitals

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-coronavirus-record-hospitalizations-20210810-bn6sudypfnhbxigie43hjxd3oy-story.html

Thanks, my numbers were general values I'd seen recently for some southern states. Things have gotten worse though. Found a link (but apparently not available to others) that shows southern states are now in the 30-40+% range for ICU beds.

Sorry for incorrect values in my first post.

[Pakuni]

https://www.ruralhealthresearch.org/mirror/13/1302/surge-capacity.pdf

Looks at difference between rural and urban.  Not a perfect look since they looked at licensed beds rather then the more realistic number of staffed beds but even if looking at licensed beds average ICU capacity is about 70.  Couldn't find anything on staffed beds but would guess it be pretty close to the 80%.

From Appendix 2: 2018 (or most recent) ICU weighted occupancy rates for rural and urban hospitals:

Rural: 45%
Urban: 65%

Not sure if this is what you intended, but this doesn't seem to support your claim that either hospitals or ICUs are always full, or even running at 80% capacity.

[pacearrow02]

From Appendix 2: 2018 (or most recent) ICU weighted occupancy rates for rural and urban hospitals:

Rural: 45%
Urban: 65%

Not sure if this is what you intended, but this doesn't seem to support your claim that either hospitals or ICUs are always full, or even running at 80% capacity.

Not sure if it's what I intended?  It what I said in the original post with 80% capacity in Urban areas was literally what I said.  You asked for a citation.  I sent you the one I was referencing but explained the difference between licensed and staffed beds.  It's exactly what I intended.

[forgetful]

https://covariants.org/variants/21A.Delta

Neat little site showing all the genetic characteristics of different variants and their prevalence by country.

Kind of crazy to see how Delta quickly dominated as the predominant variant across the globe.

[Hards Alumni]

All class ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wokey wokey!

????

Is the implication that woke people can't call other people names?  LMAO, dumbass.

[real chili 83]

Par for the course ^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Hards Alumni]

Par for the course ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Your inability to understand simple concepts?

[real chili 83]

LOL.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^

[TSmith34, Inc.]

All class ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Wokey wokey!

Complete lack of self-awareness? Raging hypocrite? Just plain dumb?

You're starting to make me think it is all three.

[real chili 83]

You too? ^^^^^^^^^

Resort to name calling, cause that's all you have left in the tank?

This should be interesting.  I'll start the popcorn.

[Pakuni]

You too? ^^^^^^^^^

Resort to name calling, cause that's all you have left in the tank?

This should be interesting.  I'll start the popcorn.

Step 1: Come here and refer to others as "wokey wokey."
Step 2: Whine about namecalling
Step 3:

[Jay Bee]

Delta surge has peaked.

Drop the dumb mask mandates.

[real chili 83]

Step 1: Come here and refer to others as "wokey wokey."
Step 2: Whine about namecalling
Step 3:

Let me type really slow for you. 

It's not name calling.......Wokey, wokey.  It's calling out the hypocrisy in their behavior (posts) with their name calling.  Clearly, you understand the difference, but since it does not fit a narrative.......

[lawdog77]

Delta surge has peaked.

Drop the dumb mask mandates.

Tell that to me and my wife, who have it. Our school district had more cases last week then any other week, ever. 900 kids were quarantined last week, but by all means drop the mask mandate. #historyrepeatingitself

[Jay Bee]

Tell that to me and my wife, who have it. Our school district had more cases last week then any other week, ever. 900 kids were quarantined last week, but by all means drop the mask mandate. #historyrepeatingitself

I have had COVID and have been fully vaccinated. Why should I be wearing a mask?

How many kids in that school district were seriously ill or died?

"Cases" needs to be put in context.

[Pakuni]

Let me type really slow for you. 

I just assume everything about you is slow.

[real chili 83]

I just assume everything about you is slow.

Just amazing.  ^^^^^^^^

Maybe not, after all.

[Pakuni]

I have had COVID and have been fully vaccinated. Why should I be wearing a mask?

Because you can still spread it?
I actually think many of the new mask mandates aren't necessary, but it's not like there's no reason why so many in the public health realm are recommending it.

How many kids in that school district were seriously ill or died?

What's the acceptable number?

[lawdog77]

I have had COVID and have been fully vaccinated. Why should I be wearing a mask?

How many kids in that school district were seriously ill or died?

"Cases" needs to be put in context.

Why, because its possible to still get Covid, be contagious, and pass it on.

I ask this seriously, what the hell is so problematic about wearing a mask. When I wear a mask, and am wearing glasses, sometimes my glasses fog up. That's my biggest problem. You?

How about 1? Is that enough for you? 

Wear a mask you kitten.

[Pakuni]

Just amazing.  ^^^^^^^^

Maybe not, after all.

Sorry, but when you come here to insult people (have you actually contributed anything to the discussion?), you don't get to cry over your feels getting hurt when people give it back to you.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

You too? ^^^^^^^^^

Resort to name calling, cause that's all you have left in the tank?

This should be interesting.  I'll start the popcorn.

Again, the guy who rails about others who call people names while simultaneously calling people names. That's either a complete lack of self-awareness, raging hypocrisy, just plain stupidity, or some combination of the three.

Do you have an alternate explanation for this repeated pattern of yours?

[The Sultan]

Why, because its possible to still get Covid, be contagious, and pass it on.

I ask this seriously, what the hell is so problematic about wearing a mask. When I wear a mask, and am wearing glasses, sometimes my glasses fog up. That's my biggest problem. You?

How about 1? Is that enough for you? 

Wear a mask you kitten.

The chances of an asymptomatic vaccinated person spreading it to another vaccinated person is pretty slim.  I will wear one when it is required, but there isn't much need to.