COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[tower912]

Hey?

Should have added floss, fluoride, and keto.    Pacifiers all.    aina

[The Sultan]

As of Aug. 9, the CDC said 8,054 breakthrough cases across the United States led to hospitalization or death. And that was nearly two weeks ago. Likely significantly more by now, and getting worse.

In other words ...

It's not "over," even for the vaccinated. And it obviously is not just a matter of "personal choice" or "freedom." It can be a matter of life or death.

If "all lives matter," as some love to snark, then get vaccinated, and wear a mask when in public and indoors.

Nobody's telling you to stay home (yet, anyway). But if you won't do those two very small things to protect yourselves, your own loved ones and your fellow Americans, stay the eff home.

160,000,000 vaccinated. 8,000 deaths. So that means.005% of those vaccinated have died of Covid.

It's over for the vaccinated.

[jesmu84]

160,000,000 vaccinated. 8,000 deaths. So that means.005% of those vaccinated have died of Covid.

It's over for the vaccinated.

Plus, hospitalizations OR death. Not all 8k died. So even lower %

[The Sultan]

Plus, hospitalizations OR death. Not all 8k died. So even lower %

Good catch!

No one ever advocated that vaccinations were a 100% prevention of death anyway. So citing stats like that is just fear-mongering nonsense.

[forgetful]

160,000,000 vaccinated. 8,000 deaths. So that means.005% of those vaccinated have died of Covid.

It's over for the vaccinated.

This type of statement is as moronic as those that were saying (early on) that only 50,000 out of 333,000,000 have died from COVID, which means that only 0.015% of people had died of COVID. Using the entire population as a basis, when the entire population had not been exposed is misleading, and inaccurate. I (and others) called those deniers out when they used misleading/inaccurate statistics, and will point it out when other sides do so as well.

We are early on in the vaccination phase, vaccinated people are ending up in hospitals, with permanent damage to their body, even if they do not die. Look at the brain scans of even those with moderate infections. This number will grow as the vaccine continues to wane. The 8,000 number is also from an incomplete data set.

[rocket surgeon]

Good. And while you are at it, get every vaccine hesitant moron you know vaxxed so that we can stop wearing them asap. Thank you for your service.

  yeah!!  yeah!!  and the ones who remain defiant, taze em and put them in an encampment until they succumb.  threaten them with harvesting their organs, never seeing their family...hell, ask xi how it's done.  while you sit eating ice cream with your braindead hero jb46.   

[MU82]

Good catch!

No one ever advocated that vaccinations were a 100% prevention of death anyway. So citing stats like that is just fear-mongering nonsense.

Cool. The 9 fully vaccinated nurses at Charlotte's children's hospital who are now hospitalized will be relieved to know that it's over.

Cases that are severe enough to result in hospitalizations -- and quite possibly bouts of long Covid that will disable folks for months or more -- meh ... who cares? If they ain't dyin', they ain't tryin'.

The trend also obviously suggests it's over, because it's not as if America went from a handful of breakthrough cases to 8,000 in just a few weeks' time.

And the new variants that are forming because people won't get vaccinated and mask up ... nomatta.

You're right, Sultan, all lives don't matter. Congrats - you win!

[MU82]

  yeah!!  yeah!!  and the ones who remain defiant, taze em and put them in an encampment until they succumb.  threaten them with harvesting their organs, never seeing their family...hell, ask xi how it's done.  while you sit eating ice cream with your braindead hero jb46.   

First, obviously, this is even more rocket than usual for you. Why didn't you just suggest another one of your non-vetted "cures" for COVID-19?

But seriously, sir ... what does the ALM in your name stand for?

Do ALL LIVES MATTER to you, or only if you aren't approached with the heinous task of having to wear a small piece of cloth on your face when indoors in public?

[Uncle Rico]

  yeah!!  yeah!!  and the ones who remain defiant, taze em and put them in an encampment until they succumb.  threaten them with harvesting their organs, never seeing their family...hell, ask xi how it's done.  while you sit eating ice cream with your braindead hero jb46.   

I agree with this analysis

[The Sultan]

This type of statement is as moronic as those that were saying (early on) that only 50,000 out of 333,000,000 have died from COVID, which means that only 0.015% of people had died of COVID. Using the entire population as a basis, when the entire population had not been exposed is misleading, and inaccurate. I (and others) called those deniers out when they used misleading/inaccurate statistics, and will point it out when other sides do so as well.

We are early on in the vaccination phase, vaccinated people are ending up in hospitals, with permanent damage to their body, even if they do not die. Look at the brain scans of even those with moderate infections. This number will grow as the vaccine continues to wane. The 8,000 number is also from an incomplete data set.

<yawn>

It's over for the vaccinated. 

[The Sultan]

Cool. The 9 fully vaccinated nurses at Charlotte's children's hospital who are now hospitalized will be relieved to know that it's over.

Cases that are severe enough to result in hospitalizations -- and quite possibly bouts of long Covid that will disable folks for months or more -- meh ... who cares? If they ain't dyin', they ain't tryin'.

The trend also obviously suggests it's over, because it's not as if America went from a handful of breakthrough cases to 8,000 in just a few weeks' time.

And the new variants that are forming because people won't get vaccinated and mask up ... nomatta.

You're right, Sultan, all lives don't matter. Congrats - you win!

I would have thought Marquette would have done a better job teaching you math and probabilities.

Guess it didn't take.

[Warriors4ever]

Yesterday I heard a doctor on the radio from far southern Illinois. He said the nearest ICU beds available are two hours away.
This morning on a neighbors FB page, she was tagged in a post by someone informing her about taking a mutual friend to a medical center in Appleton for a possible heart issue. There are no beds available in the hospital so this person's  current 'room' is the ER.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Says the guys with a Canadian flag as his avatar but who hasn't left Racine County in 40 years.

One word: kringles

[TSmith34, Inc.]

  yeah!!  yeah!!  and the ones who remain defiant, taze em and put them in an encampment until they succumb.  threaten them with harvesting their organs, never seeing their family...hell, ask xi how it's done.  while you sit eating ice cream with your braindead hero jb46.   

Well, you can't fix stupid, but I am more than willing to let people remain unvaccinated. They can enjoy their freedom from the cure. However, they are not allowed to:

* Work in an office with other people. Only from home.
* Take a plane or any other method of mass transportation where they can infect others. They have the complete freedom of their car, however.
* Enter a public place, whether it be a ball game or a retail location including a grocery store. All their freedom can be delivered to their home. Jeff Bezos says thanks.
* Visit a doctor except via a televisit. They are prohibited from infecting our health care workers.
* When they do get sick through their inevitable mass gatherings amongst themselves to "own the libs", the are at the back of the line: vaccinated people will be prioritized before them for all care. No beds? Too bad for them
* Sorry, their medical bills will not be paid for by insurance since they couldn't be bothered to take even the minimal step to protect themselves and their fellow citizens.

We'll only resort to tasing them if they can't follow the rules.

[Pakuni]

U of Virginia disenrolls 238 students for not getting vaccinated.  Though only 49 had registered for classes this fall.

https://www.pilotonline.com/news/education/vp-nw-disenroll-students-uva-20210819-m63bgxt2ubcgzbgemvet5owlai-story.html

[Hards Alumni]

<yawn>

It's over for the vaccinated.

Hopefully you don't need to use the hospital in the next couple of months.

It's okay to understand this.

[The Sultan]

Hopefully you don't need to use the hospital in the next couple of months.

It's okay to understand this.

Understand that selfish dumbf*cks are taking up room in the hospitals?  I know that.

[Jockey]

Says the guys with a Canadian flag as his avatar but who hasn't left Racine County in 40 years.

Other than the half dozen vacations every year.  You seem a little sensitive.

[rocket surgeon]

Well, you can't fix stupid, but I am more than willing to let people remain unvaccinated. They can enjoy their freedom from the cure. However, they are not allowed to:

* Work in an office with other people. Only from home.
* Take a plane or any other method of mass transportation where they can infect others. They have the complete freedom of their car, however.
* Enter a public place, whether it be a ball game or a retail location including a grocery store. All their freedom can be delivered to their home. Jeff Bezos says thanks.
* Visit a doctor except via a televisit. They are prohibited from infecting our health care workers.
* When they do get sick through their inevitable mass gatherings amongst themselves to "own the libs", the are at the back of the line: vaccinated people will be prioritized before them for all care. No beds? Too bad for them
* Sorry, their medical bills will not be paid for by insurance since they couldn't be bothered to take even the minimal step to protect themselves and their fellow citizens.

We'll only resort to tasing them if they can't follow the rules.

  come on adolf!  you really struggle outside of the box, but  "freedom from the cure??  so now you "experts" are claiming the vaccine "cures" us of the virus??  what about those who've already had the virus?   

   

[jsglow]

Plus, hospitalizations OR death. Not all 8k died. So even lower %

We've gotten exceptionally bad at relative risk assessment.  There will always be cases, and a handful of hospitalizations and even fewer deaths (approximately 1,200 as of today). That doesn't mean it isn't largely 'over' in the current environment for the fully vaccinated.  Of course that could change.  But that's where we are today with 160MM folks fully vaxxed.

To that end, I drove my car today. I determined that the risk of a fatal accident was low enough. I'm an excellent driver, doncha know.  I wonder if others are making different choices. I'll bet not; even the crappy drivers.  Maybe they're just virtue signaling instead?

[forgetful]

Jesse Jackson and his wife just hospitalized with COVID.

Both vaccinated back in January.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/21/us/rev-jesse-jackson-wife-hospitalized-coronavirus/index.html

[Uncle Rico]

Jesse Jackson and his wife just hospitalized with COVID.

Both vaccinated back in January.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/21/us/rev-jesse-jackson-wife-hospitalized-coronavirus/index.html

Someone let them know it's over

[pbiflyer]

It's over for this guy.

Phil Valentine, conservative radio host and vaccine skeptic, dies of COVID-19

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/phil-valentine-dies-covid-conservative-radio-host-vaccine-skeptic/

Phil Valentine, a conservative radio talk show host who was a vaccine skeptic and disagreed with mask mandates up until he was diagnosed with COVID-19 last month, has died at age 61.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

We've gotten exceptionally bad at relative risk assessment.  There will always be cases, and a handful of hospitalizations and even fewer deaths (approximately 1,200 as of today). That doesn't mean it isn't largely 'over' in the current environment for the fully vaccinated.  Of course that could change.  But that's where we are today with 160MM folks fully vaxxed.

Glow I agree with you with one exception.  As long as we are stressing the hospital systems (and in Orlando water services), this unfortunately isn't over.

It weighs too heavily on people's behavior.

[Hards Alumni]

Phil Valentine dead yet?

Ope, he did now.

https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1429205843275304961?s=19

He won his stupid prize.