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rocket surgeon

Quote from: forgetful on June 02, 2021, 10:06:21 AM
Yes. Fauci, even in the email indicates that mask wearing is best for those infected. That was always true. As we learned more about the prevalence of spread, and when the disease became infectious, it became important/prudent for all to wear masks as a precaution. His statements evolved with the science.

Trump asked for them to inject bleach into people, and irradiate them intravenously with ionizing radiation.

Kind of different scenarios.

you guys being fixated on the bleach statement shows an obvious bias clouding out credible argument for fauci.  45 did a lot more good than he will ever be given credit for, like him or not.  fauci is polluted with advocacy
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on June 02, 2021, 12:14:56 PM
you guys being fixated on the bleach statement shows an obvious bias clouding out credible argument for fauci.  45 did a lot more good than he will ever be given credit for, like him or not.  fauci is polluted with advocacy


You couldn't be a bigger caricature of a brainwashed dope if you tried.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Lens

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 02, 2021, 12:04:08 PM
Recruitin' black owned barber shops ta administer da vaccine ain't gonna get it dunn, hey?

I'm of the belief that the best way to get our vaccine numbers up is to hit a ton of singles.  So mobile vaccine efforts are a plus, vaccine raffles / lotteries are a plus, gift-cards are a plus, etc, etc.  Keep trying anything we can to incentivize people so that we can get back to normal and beat this thing.

Black owned barbershops won't solve our hesitancy problem but it will chip away at the problem.  Every little bit helps.  Maybe the most respected doctor in Lomira could set up shop at Midwest Shooter's Supply to help reach rural population that is hesitant.  Anything that helps, helps.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on June 01, 2021, 09:52:06 AM
It was a news article, not an opinion piece. I believe that intelligent readers would agree with your point.

I guess my point was that it was a poorly written article with dubious assertions. In 4 months, we went from few vaccinations and hard to find vaccine to enough vaccine for every American. An amazing accomplishment.

Yet the authors of the article wrote "Some people who died in recent weeks got sick before they were eligible for shots, raising questions about whether the United States' vaccine rollout moved quickly enough to reach all Americans."

MU82

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on June 02, 2021, 12:14:56 PM
you guys being fixated on the bleach statement shows an obvious bias clouding out credible argument for fauci.  45 did a lot more good than he will ever be given credit for, like him or not.  fauci is polluted with advocacy

hilarious and delusional. 45 accomplished amazingly little, unless one considers having 500K+ americans die on his watch, millions losing their jobs on his watch, racism ramping up on his watch, and a deadly coup attempt taking place at his behest as "accomplishments."

oh, and if "alzheimer joe" had looked his covid specialist right in the eye and suggested she investigate injecting disinfectant into the human body, you wouldn't just be shrugging it off. and if "dementia joe" had then tried to claim it was "sarcasm," you'd have called for him to be taken to the looney bin.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

#10330
So I said to my people 'Slow the testing down, please.'
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.


Skatastrophy

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on June 04, 2021, 07:21:29 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/charlescwcooke/status/1400786530550026243

Rebekah Jones received whistleblower status earlier this week, so she now has some basic protections:

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article251781273.html

And, Jones kept copies of Moskowitz's comms with her. Quote from the article you just shared:

> Moskowitz decided to speak out publicly after Jones leaked their Twitter exchanges to The Miami Herald. Jones also shared images of encrypted Signal messages between her and Moskowitz that would have disappeared, but she took screen-captured pictures of the private exchanges and also gave them to the paper. Moskowitz said he doesn't have copies of those.

Looks like DeSantis-appointee Moskowitz is trying to cover his ass before he gets fired.

pacearrow02

Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 04, 2021, 08:49:38 AM
Rebekah Jones received whistleblower status earlier this week, so she now has some basic protections:

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article251781273.html

And, Jones kept copies of Moskowitz's comms with her. Quote from the article you just shared:

> Moskowitz decided to speak out publicly after Jones leaked their Twitter exchanges to The Miami Herald. Jones also shared images of encrypted Signal messages between her and Moskowitz that would have disappeared, but she took screen-captured pictures of the private exchanges and also gave them to the paper. Moskowitz said he doesn't have copies of those.

Looks like DeSantis-appointee Moskowitz is trying to cover his ass before he gets fired.

Haha, ok.  An opinion piece from someone who obviously hates the gov. 

We'll see how this plays out I suppose.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on June 04, 2021, 09:51:15 AM
Haha, ok.  An opinion piece from someone who obviously hates the gov. 

We'll see how this plays out I suppose.

You disagree that the Florida IG granted her whistleblower status?

My bad for linking an Opinion piece, it was the first result that came up. Here's the news about it: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article251762323.html

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Jockey on June 02, 2021, 03:15:24 PM
I guess my point was that it was a poorly written article with dubious assertions. In 4 months, we went from few vaccinations and hard to find vaccine to enough vaccine for every American. An amazing accomplishment.

Yet the authors of the article wrote "Some people who died in recent weeks got sick before they were eligible for shots, raising questions about whether the United States' vaccine rollout moved quickly enough to reach all Americans."

In some areas that has been the case, but mainly because of poor planning and distribution by city and state governments. Political BS slowed down the process. Washington DC has been particularly dysfunctional.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 04, 2021, 03:01:30 PM
In some areas that has been the case, but mainly because of poor planning and distribution by city and state governments. Political BS slowed down the process. Washington DC has been particularly dysfunctional.


Do you have any sort of link or article pointing to this?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 04, 2021, 03:22:09 PM

Do you have any sort of link or article pointing to this?

Here's some on DC:
https://thehoya.com/vaccination-rollout-concerns-d-c-residents/

Here's one for Oregon. What is not mentioned is the bickering over who should get it first. Originally it was older people and teachers. Then the board said BIPOC individuals (and argued over who was "BIPOC") but that was declared unconstitutional
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/governor-orders-oha-to-speed-up-vaccinations/283-250329bc-65ef-404f-8e2c-ac977e3c9dd8

Let's face it, once we got competent leadership in DC the vaccines got out to the states.  There were also slowdowns in the delivery of the vaccines due to weather.

"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

pbiflyer

https://twitter.com/miamiherald/status/1400935978894823428?s=21

NEW: Florida will no longer update its COVID-19 dashboard that tracked the number of cases and deaths in the state.

Its daily COVID-19 cases and vaccine reports have also stopped.



Warriors4ever

If you don't report the cases, then you don't have any cases......
The stated reason is because there is no need as the numbers were improving so much. Florida's been leading the country in cases the daily reports......

Warriors4ever

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57358492

This is nuts. Belgium's chief virologist has been living in a safe house with his family for  several weeks due to a heavily-armed far right-wing member of the military who tried to ambush him. And thousands of people believe the would-be assassin is a hero...

JWags85

Quote from: Warriors4ever on June 05, 2021, 04:04:51 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57358492

This is nuts. Belgium's chief virologist has been living in a safe house with his family for  several weeks due to a heavily-armed far right-wing member of the military who tried to ambush him. And thousands of people believe the would-be assassin is a hero...

That's a wild story.  Have to ask my rep there about it when we chat on Monday.

Also a remind of the irony that Belgium's Minister of Health (well now former as of last year) is a morbidly obese physician.

MU82

Donald Trump and his Republican allies have spent the past few weeks trying to rewrite or distort the history of the pandemic, attempting with renewed vigor to villainize Anthony S. Fauci while lionizing the former president for what they portray as heroic foresight and underappreciated efforts to combat the deadly virus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-fauci-wuhan-lan-leak/2021/06/05/8469f022-c55b-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3344879%2F60bcec919d2fdae30271f4eb%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F41%2F72%2F60bcec919d2fdae30271f4eb

... The focus on from where the virus came appears to be an attempt to distract from the chief failure of the Trump administration — its uneven and chaotic response to the outbreak once it began spreading within the United States.

Trump frequently told the public it was not a serious threat and would go away soon, including when the weather changed. He resisted public health policies that medical experts said could save lives and sent conflicting signals to the public about whether to wear masks. He said you should, but he would not. Trump also sought to take little responsibility for the pandemic response, often saying it was the job of state governments, not his administration, to take action.

Now close to 600,000 Americans have died from the virus — a statistic that is impervious to the debate over whether the virus leaked from a Chinese lab or was spread from an animal to a human.

The focus on the virus's origin story also fits a pattern of Trump and his supporters trying to absolve the former president of blame by obfuscating his past actions or words and blaming others despite his role as the country's leader. Many Republicans are now playing down the severity of the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, and Trump spent years trying to deny he equated the actions of white supremacists with racial justice demonstrators in the 2017 deadly clashes in Charlottesville.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

forgetful

Quote from: MU82 on June 06, 2021, 11:37:53 AM
Donald Trump and his Republican allies have spent the past few weeks trying to rewrite or distort the history of the pandemic, attempting with renewed vigor to villainize Anthony S. Fauci while lionizing the former president for what they portray as heroic foresight and underappreciated efforts to combat the deadly virus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-fauci-wuhan-lan-leak/2021/06/05/8469f022-c55b-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3344879%2F60bcec919d2fdae30271f4eb%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F41%2F72%2F60bcec919d2fdae30271f4eb

... The focus on from where the virus came appears to be an attempt to distract from the chief failure of the Trump administration — its uneven and chaotic response to the outbreak once it began spreading within the United States.

Trump frequently told the public it was not a serious threat and would go away soon, including when the weather changed. He resisted public health policies that medical experts said could save lives and sent conflicting signals to the public about whether to wear masks. He said you should, but he would not. Trump also sought to take little responsibility for the pandemic response, often saying it was the job of state governments, not his administration, to take action.

Now close to 600,000 Americans have died from the virus — a statistic that is impervious to the debate over whether the virus leaked from a Chinese lab or was spread from an animal to a human.

The focus on the virus's origin story also fits a pattern of Trump and his supporters trying to absolve the former president of blame by obfuscating his past actions or words and blaming others despite his role as the country's leader. Many Republicans are now playing down the severity of the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, and Trump spent years trying to deny he equated the actions of white supremacists with racial justice demonstrators in the 2017 deadly clashes in Charlottesville.


For 40% of Americans no need to rewrite history. Trump is and always will be the hero in their narrative.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: forgetful on June 07, 2021, 10:29:54 AM
For 40% of Americans no need to rewrite history. Trump is and always will be the hero in their narrative.

And wear backwards pants.

MU82

Marjorie Q Greene is demanding an immediate investigation of Fauci, and she told Biden in a letter that she wants answers by "June 31, 2021."

You can't make this sh1t up.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Warriors4ever

Biden should agree to issue a report on that specific date in return for congressional approval of the January 6 commission.

She's an idiot.

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on June 07, 2021, 10:40:10 PM
Marjorie Q Greene is demanding an immediate investigation of Fauci, and she told Biden in a letter that she wants answers by "June 31, 2021."

You can't make this sh1t up.

Obviously, she is using a republican calendar.  ::)

tower912

June 31 has special meaning in the Q world.    Or some such peepeekaka.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on June 08, 2021, 10:02:01 AM
June 31 has special meaning in the Q world.    Or some such peepeekaka.

Ah ... kind of a racist Juneteenth?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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