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Frenns Liquor Depot

The emerging testing debacle does not bode well for our preparation for the fall.

Jockey

Are you referring to whether people should be injected with coronavirus to test new vaccines?

Or trump's nonsense to stop testing?

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: Jockey on July 02, 2020, 06:49:21 PM
Are you referring to whether people should be injected with coronavirus to test new vaccines?

Or trump's nonsense to stop testing?

Neither.  There are issues again with running tests and having enough supplies.  It is increasing the lead time from test to results to over 5 days in areas/labs.  Which isn't good if we want to get our arms around things. 

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on July 02, 2020, 07:22:44 PM
Neither.  There are issues again with running tests and having enough supplies.  It is increasing the lead time from test to results to over 5 days in areas/labs.  Which isn't good if we want to get our arms around things.


Yep. How NOT to beat a pandemic: ignore science so the healthcare care system gets overwhelmed

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/quest-labcorp-warn-coronavirus-testing-delays-demand-surges/story?id=71555595

Jockey

Testing shortages. PPE shortages.

Is is April again?

Jockey

The idiot governors in SD promises there will be no social distancing at trump Mt. Rushmore gig.

Just one large mass of idiots.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Jockey on July 02, 2020, 01:24:42 PM
So, if he dies, do we count it as Covid or suicide?

  what the...are you serious??  what's the matter with you!!
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Jockey on July 03, 2020, 08:20:02 PM
The idiot governors in SD promises there will be no social distancing at trump Mt. Rushmore gig.

Just one large mass of idiots.

and the rioting anarchists are brainiac scholars?  look in a mirror
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Hards Alumni

Oddly enough, I don't think rocket is off base here.

make a note of it.

GooooMarquette

Kimberly Guilfoyle, Top Fund-Raising Official for Trump Campaign, Tests Positive for Coronavirus

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/03/us/politics/kimberly-guilfoyle-trump-campaign-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Kimberly Guilfoyle, the girlfriend of President Trump's eldest son and a top fund-raising official for the Trump re-election campaign, tested positive for the coronavirus on Friday before a Fourth of July event at Mount Rushmore, a person familiar with her condition said.

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And regrettably, no - I have no illusions that this will change POTUS' behavior.

GooooMarquette

Not that there is a shortage of COVID dashboards and maps...but this is a new one (released July 1) from the Harvard Global Health Institute. It does a nice job of comparing areas by a single, standardized metric (7-day moving average of new cases per 100,000 residents), and translating that data into color-coded risk levels (red > orange > yellow > green). It also allows you to toggle between county- and state-level numbers.

As you would suspect, most of the 'red' counties are in FL, TX, AZ, SC and such, and most of the northeast and upper midwest is yellow with smatterings of green and orange.

https://globalepidemics.org/key-metrics-for-covid-suppression/

JWags85

I saw that Formula 1 tested over 4000 people and got no positive tests. It's not meant to be a pissing match point about Europe handling vs the US, I just thought it was amazing given the pure number of personnel from the teams and operations tested

Lennys Tap

Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 03, 2020, 08:22:36 PM
and the rioting anarchists are brainiac scholars?  look in a mirror

They're not looters, rocket. They're undocumented shoppers.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 04, 2020, 09:57:09 PM
They're not looters, rocket. They're undocumented shoppers.

I loved this one Lenny, ...mostly a protest, but not generally speaking unruly??  How many fires were there including the 3rd precinct??  Licker stores being emptied, businesses torched, cop cars burning rocks being thrown...but they were wearing masks

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/05/28/msnbcs_ali_velshi_downplays_riot_in_front_of_burning_building_mostly_a_protest_not_generally_speaking_unruly.html

felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Frenns Liquor Depot

#7064
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 04, 2020, 09:57:09 PM
They're not looters, rocket. They're undocumented shoppers.

Please keep all this stuff including the editorials that started this to some other thread. 

Frenns Liquor Depot

There is a lot in this article. Primary aerosols but secondarily WHO processes and messaging.  I though the aerosol debate is interesting.   

Anecdotally Scoopers dentist practices and hair salons seem to be ok with ridged masking.  Bars, choirs, Zumba classes have all been super spreader events.

Obviously points to masking but curious if HVAC filter or UV retrofits will be an economic winner with this emerging evidence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/health/239-experts-with-1-big-claim-the-coronavirus-is-airborne.html

mu_hilltopper

Something that always stuck with me .. a radio interview with an epidemiologist who'd written books on pandemics / an expert. 

"Should people wash their hands?"

"Well, we need to give people something to do.  It won't hurt."

The Sultan

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/it-okay-go-beach/613849/

The upshot.  The beach is actually a pretty safe place to be.  And closing them down actually may promote less healthy behaviors and ways to socialize.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Wonder why people don't wear masks? It comes from the top.

Trump has repeatedly sought to minimize the jump in confirmed cases and claimed without evidence in a July 4th speech that 99% of cases in the United States were "totally harmless."



Jockey

On CBS' Face The Nation, host Margaret Brennan started off by informing viewers that (despite soaring new caseloads), the Trump administration has been blocking interview requests with key government exports for three months.

"We have not been able to get our requests for Dr. Fauci approved by the Trump administration in the last three months. And the CDC not at all," reported Brennan


Frenns Liquor Depot

Some actual science pointing to indoor ac driven spread. 

Of course coupled with the aerosol push this weekend it is probably not shocking.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/06/air-conditioning-may-be-factor-in-covid-19-spread-in-the-south/

injuryBug

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on July 05, 2020, 07:43:54 PM
Some actual science pointing to indoor ac driven spread. 

Of course coupled with the aerosol push this weekend it is probably not shocking.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/06/air-conditioning-may-be-factor-in-covid-19-spread-in-the-south/

Every school in the country starting at the lowest level up through college should have these lights installed for the fall.  Especially if like the article said they are not very expensive.

If I were a bar owner that would be a no brianer as well.  Even if it helps a little.

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