COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[forgetful]

https://twitter.com/SquireForYou/status/1265553065056362497?s=19

Just looked into the background of those numbers a bit. It does indeed look like Florida has undercount COVID deaths by at least 2,000 deaths. Looks intentional too.

[WarriorDad]

Just looked into the background of those numbers a bit. It does indeed look like Florida has undercount COVID deaths by at least 2,000 deaths. Looks intentional too.

A number of states are cleaning up their reporting because of over stated cases.  Washington found a few that were suicide victims by gunshot that somehow were COVID deaths.  Another state had two murdered people counted as COVID related deaths.  The numbers will remain all over the place because some of this is political. I don't think it is a coincidence that blue states have higher COVID deaths and red states have lower ones - much of that because of population density.  Could it also be how governments are counting?  My conspiracy theory for the day.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/05/26/coronavirus-death-toll-is-heavily-concentrated-in-democratic-congressional-districts/

[Mutaman]

Who the F is Gabriel Sherman?

He's the guy who ended your buddy Roger Ailes' career, Sparky.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Loudest_Voice

[Mutaman]

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thor=GooooMarquette link=topic=59849.msg1245994#msg1245994 date=1590624301]
It would seem appropriate for the President to say something about the devastating loss of human life. Is he going to say anything?
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trump's response:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
"He is arguably the greatest president in our history." Thank you @LouDobbs
!

[forgetful]

A number of states are cleaning up their reporting because of over stated cases.  Washington found a few that were suicide victims by gunshot that somehow were COVID deaths.  Another state had two murdered people counted as COVID related deaths.  The numbers will remain all over the place because some of this is political. I don't think it is a coincidence that blue states have higher COVID deaths and red states have lower ones - much of that because of population density.  Could it also be how governments are counting?  My conspiracy theory for the day.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/05/26/coronavirus-death-toll-is-heavily-concentrated-in-democratic-congressional-districts/

We've been here done this. Science says that we are under-reporting COVID deaths. Look at Florida, which had a late season rush of pneumonia deaths in mid to late March that exceeded normals by 100's per day, all flu negative.

They recorded them all as pneumonia deaths, not CoVID even though they were almost assuredly COVID. They were also leaving out deaths with COVID on the death certificate if it also listed Pneumonia.

Again, Science says we are undercounting. This is more prevalent in Red states, where for political reasons they want the numbers lower.

[MU82]

A number of states are cleaning up their reporting because of over stated cases.  Washington found a few that were suicide victims by gunshot that somehow were COVID deaths.  Another state had two murdered people counted as COVID related deaths.  The numbers will remain all over the place because some of this is political. I don't think it is a coincidence that blue states have higher COVID deaths and red states have lower ones - much of that because of population density.  Could it also be how governments are counting?  My conspiracy theory for the day.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/05/26/coronavirus-death-toll-is-heavily-concentrated-in-democratic-congressional-districts/

Your pretend-to-be-a-Dem-but-act-like-a-right-winger act is getting boring.

[Mutaman]

I'm wondering if America Bubicana is finally starting to wise up.Trump down to 43% in the pro right wing Rasmussen poll. its like even the Know Nothings do not approve of fighting the virus by accusing Scarborough of murder.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

[BM1090]

Probably the wrong thread but I didn't want to start a Texas thread.

I had to travel to Austin this week. Flying was less stressful than imagined. Planes were half full and the staff did a great job sanitizing everything. Boarded in smaller groups as well to keep social distancing. Attendants encouraged us to do our own wipedowns if we felt uncomfortable and came through to collect garbage far more frequently.

Texas is weird. The state is open but Austin has a stay at home through the end of May. However, businesses are opening up anyways. It's a free for all.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Probably the wrong thread but I didn't want to start a Texas thread.

I had to travel to Austin this week. Flying was less stressful than imagined. Planes were half full and the staff did a great job sanitizing everything. Boarded in smaller groups as well to keep social distancing. Attendants encouraged us to do our own wipedowns if we felt uncomfortable and came through to collect garbage far more frequently.

Texas is weird. The state is open but Austin has a stay at home through the end of May. However, businesses are opening up anyways. It's a free for all.

How were the passengers?  Hostile or friendly?

And how were the flight attendants?  Stressed? Relaxed?  Nervous about catching it?

[pbiflyer]

Is there a site that posts trends on hospitalizations by state?  That seems to be more relevant now --in conjunction with the initial points of cases/deaths.

Alabama has seen an increase in icu beds filled. Not sure about overall.

[mu_hilltopper]

Your pretend-to-be-a-Dem-but-act-like-a-right-winger act is getting boring.

I disagree.  I think it's fascinating.

[shoothoops]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1187829299207954437?s=19

These tweets were sent out October of 2019.

[Uncle Rico]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1187829299207954437?s=19

These tweets were sent out October of 2019.

President Pandemic said it would disappear one day.  We're good

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Not a lot of conclusions in here, but an interesting discussion on why Europe and NA seem harder hit from a mortality perspective as compared to Asia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/researchers-ponder-why-covid-appears-more-deadly-in-the-us-and-europe-than-in-asia/2020/05/26/81889d06-8a9f-11ea-9759-6d20ba0f2c0e_story.html

[TSmith34, Inc.]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1187829299207954437?s=19

These tweets were sent out October of 2019.

Biden is old and senile, what does he know? Jared will lead us out of this.

[Hards Alumni]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1187829299207954437?s=19

These tweets were sent out October of 2019.

Oh boy, get ready for the accusations that Biden and the Democrats colluded with China to release this virus on the world so Trump would lose the election.

Wait, I'm probably too late to come up with this... no way I'm first.

[GooooMarquette]

Not a lot of conclusions in here, but an interesting discussion on why Europe and NA seem harder hit from a mortality perspective as compared to Asia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/researchers-ponder-why-covid-appears-more-deadly-in-the-us-and-europe-than-in-asia/2020/05/26/81889d06-8a9f-11ea-9759-6d20ba0f2c0e_story.html

Plenty of plausible reasons in there, but really difficult to tell which are relevant. The most obvious to me - not necessarily the right one, but the most obvious - is the dramatic difference in obesity rates. I also think the Asian comfort with wearing masks (and the Western aversion) is playing a significant role in the ongoing spread.

[BM1090]

How were the passengers?  Hostile or friendly?

And how were the flight attendants?  Stressed? Relaxed?  Nervous about catching it?

Passengers were somewhere between. Nobody was outwardly angry but there was definitely some unease.

Flight attendants seemed fine. I'm sure it was mostly a facade but they did a good job of acting normal.

[forgetful]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1187829299207954437?s=19

These tweets were sent out October of 2019.

One of the replies is so misplaced in hindsight. I bet the individual wishes he could have it back:

https://twitter.com/ScienceLt/status/1187830895660732421

"We are probably not prepared for the meteor either. How about we focus resources on the daily problems we have instead of the 1 in 10,000 year event that is likely to not gallen anyways?"

[TSmith34, Inc.]

One of the replies is so misplaced in hindsight. I bet the individual wishes he could have it back:

https://twitter.com/ScienceLt/status/1187830895660732421

"We are probably not prepared for the meteor either. How about we focus resources on the daily problems we have instead of the 1 in 10,000 year event that is likely to not gallen anyways?"

Tons of the replies are hilariously wrong, but the thing about that tweet is that we had recently been through Ebola, SARS, MERS, and H1N1. It's not like he needed to look back 10,000 years for the last event.

[Jockey]

President Pandemic said it would disappear one day.  We're good

And his sidekick Christian Boo Boo said it would disappear by Memorial Day.

So we're good.

[HouWarrior]

Probably the wrong thread but I didn't want to start a Texas thread.

I had to travel to Austin this week. Flying was less stressful than imagined. Planes were half full and the staff did a great job sanitizing everything. Boarded in smaller groups as well to keep social distancing. Attendants encouraged us to do our own wipedowns if we felt uncomfortable and came through to collect garbage far more frequently.

Texas is weird. The state is open but Austin has a stay at home through the end of May. However, businesses are opening up anyways. It's a free for all.

Actually Texas is parallel to the USA. Our top leaders Gov Abbott and Lt Gov Dan Patrick quote the WH  in briefings, their actions are in lockstep with directions from the same contacts....but at the local urban levels we have mostly blue mayors and county judges (our name for County govt CEOs). As you should know Austin is the heart of more liberal Texas politics/thinking and home to UT. The urban areas have local stay at home and other protections still in place...but of course some of those run counter to the statewide open it up edicts of our top guys.

None of what I described is intended to stir the politics. It is what it is Texas top brass are tracking the WH lockstep, the local urban leaders still urge continued high caution....and our citizenry follows those they like and agree with. There is very little uniformity...That does not bother Texans.

The relative low rates here have much to do with natural distancing ...we already tend to live apart and privately.

[Jockey]

Supporting tweets today that wearing a mask amounts to slavery and that the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat, the man has officially gone insane.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Supporting tweets today that wearing a mask amounts to slavery and that the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat, the man has officially gone insane.

Why do you let him bother you so much?  Does he affect your daily life that much?
Does he make you sad or mad?

[pbiflyer]

Florida only has 1,763 COVID related deaths. Great!
However, we also have 5,185 deaths from pneumonia, a mere increase of 560% over the 5 year average of 918 deaths.

Yeah, we're over counting COVID deaths.