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Galway Eagle

The misinformation is bad. But as with any comedian, you aren't going to them for legit news. If CNN or MSNBC etc posted that then I think that'd be really disconcerting
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ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 08, 2020, 02:18:42 PM
The misinformation is bad. But as with any comedian, you aren't going to them for legit news. If CNN or MSNBC etc posted that then I think that'd be really disconcerting

Problem is, blue checkmark journalists are sharing it, including Andrea Mitchell and Indianapolis Star.

WarriorDad

Quote from: jficke13 on May 08, 2020, 08:16:06 AM
And your point is?

Latest statistics, but members have already spun it to their whims.  I have relatives that fit these age groups.  My wife and I are in the next group down, but still at risk vs younger people.

Everyone be safe.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

Galway Eagle

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 08, 2020, 02:34:05 PM
Problem is, blue checkmark journalists are sharing it, including Andrea Mitchell and Indianapolis Star.

that is a problem. Those late night shows are great for getting young people interested in the issues but you have to investigate yourself to see if something is legit, overblown, edited, etc.
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GooooMarquette

#5030
Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 08, 2020, 03:54:07 PM
that is a problem. Those late night shows are great for getting young people interested in the issues but you have to investigate yourself to see if something is legit, overblown, edited, etc.

Agreed. Anyone who uses Kimmel or Colbert for their news is not getting the news.

IMHO, the best way to get free written news without partisan slant is through AP news. It is dead center in the media bias reviews, and gets consistently high scores for factual accuracy.

Other good and consistently neutral options are BBC, Bloomberg, WSJ and PBS. Unfortunately, Bloomberg and WSJ are pretty pricey.

NYT and WaPo are generally great in terms of factual accuracy, but their perspective tends to be a bit slanted.

ZiggysFryBoy

#5031
Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 08, 2020, 05:19:24 PM
Agreed. Anyone who uses Kimmel or Colbert for their news is not getting the news.

IMHO, the best way to get free written news without partisan slant is through AP news. It is dead center in the media bias reviews, and gets consistently high scores for factual accuracy.

Other good and consistently neutral options are BBC, Bloomberg, WSJ and PBS. Unfortunately, Bloomberg and WSJ are pretty pricey.

NYT and WaPo are generally great in terms of factual accuracy, but their perspective tends to be a bit slanted.


Frenns Liquor Depot

I'm happy to see what I read is very close to the top.  Except the New York post.  That is just fantastic newsie entertainment. 

Warrior2008

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Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 08, 2020, 05:19:24 PM
Agreed. Anyone who uses Kimmel or Colbert for their news is not getting the news.

IMHO, the best way to get free written news without partisan slant is through AP news. It is dead center in the media bias reviews, and gets consistently high scores for factual accuracy.

Other good and consistently neutral options are BBC, Bloomberg, WSJ and PBS. Unfortunately, Bloomberg and WSJ are pretty pricey.

NYT and WaPo are generally great in terms of factual accuracy, but their perspective tends to be a bit slanted.

BBC and the WSJ are my go to along with CNBC during the day if I'm watching TV.

Jimmy Kimmel has long been a giant tool and the least funny of any of the late night guys(just my opinion).

Hards Alumni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on May 08, 2020, 02:34:05 PM
Problem is, blue checkmark journalists are sharing it, including Andrea Mitchell and Indianapolis Star.

Andrea Mitchel has as much sundown syndrome as our president.  But are they sharing it as it some sort of fact?  Or because it's funny?

reinko

Says something about some posters who  have posted more about a Jimmy Kimmel bit, than barrage of daily lies coming from people in power who actually matter.

HouWarrior

ZFB thanks for the chart. My impression is this is pretty well done.

Hopefully I am not agreeing with its results just because all my go tos (incl  my no 1 go to, AP , ) are in good spots.

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.


The Sultan

Quote from: warriorchick on May 09, 2020, 08:05:06 AM
Roy Horn dead at 75 from Covid-19

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/us/roy-horn-of-siegfried-and-roy-dies/index.html


::)  CNN

"Related Article: Mantecore, the white tiger that attacked during Siegfried & Roy show, dies."
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: reinko on May 09, 2020, 07:57:00 AM
Says something about some posters who  have posted more about a Jimmy Kimmel bit, than barrage of daily lies coming from people in power who actually matter.

Hardly surprising, given that our emperor regularly repeats the Stalinist rant that "the media is the enemy of the people." Meanwhile, he has told hundreds of lies about this coronavirus alone. That's above and beyond the thousands of other lies he's told over the last 4 years.

But yeah ... Jimmy Kimmel is evil.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

Quote from: WarriorDad on May 07, 2020, 11:12:40 PM
Average age of those that have died in the US is 75 per CDC.   Massachusetts the avg age of victims is 82.  Tennessee it is 72.  New York 73.  Not all states are reporting age of the victims in their public data.

Once a person has reached age 75, his/her average life expectancy is another 11 years. Many of those people are very fit, especially for somebody that age. Some are still freakin' working.

My parents were still playing tennis well into their 70s. My father-in-law worked until he was 84, still living by himself at 89, and is still in decent shape at 94.

Obviously, many 75+ are not in good health, but the notion that these folks are "disposable" is sickening.

Not saying you were insinuating that, WD/chicos/hoopaloop.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

The good new is that the White House is embracing extensive testing and contact tracing.   OK, only for White House staff, their assistants, and the secret service around them, but you have to start somewhere
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

wadesworld

Quote from: tower912 on May 09, 2020, 10:43:10 AM
The good new is that the White House is embracing extensive testing and contact tracing.   OK, only for White House staff, their assistants, and the secret service around them, but you have to start somewhere

NBA teams are able to test asymptomatic players and employees so that's good.

jficke13

Quote from: WarriorDad on May 08, 2020, 02:40:34 PM
Latest statistics, but members have already spun it to their whims.  I have relatives that fit these age groups.  My wife and I are in the next group down, but still at risk vs younger people.

Everyone be safe.

That's not a point.

It's cool though, we can see your insinuations. It's smart that you use an alias. I wouldn't want to put my name to those opinions either.

GooooMarquette

Cautionary tales about reopening:

Reopenings bring new cases in S. Korea, virus fears in Italy

https://apnews.com/fce9ea63c7c4199e4ff39ddd54d3944e

South Korea's capital closed down more than 2,100 bars and other nightspots Saturday because of a new cluster of coronavirus infections, Germany scrambled to contain fresh outbreaks at slaughterhouses, and Italian authorities worried that people were getting too friendly at cocktail hour during the country's first weekend of eased restrictions.

WarriorDad

Quote from: jficke13 on May 09, 2020, 11:14:09 AM
That's not a point.

It's cool though, we can see your insinuations. It's smart that you use an alias. I wouldn't want to put my name to those opinions either.

I made no insinuation at all nor would I. I'm a pro life Democrat, I value human life.  My position is to protect the fragile parts of society whether that is the unborn or the old and weak, especially with this pandemic where they are more vulnerable than others. 

Not sure why you went there as nothing in any of my messages would ever lead you to that conclusion.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

WarriorDad

Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 08, 2020, 05:19:24 PM
Agreed. Anyone who uses Kimmel or Colbert for their news is not getting the news.

IMHO, the best way to get free written news without partisan slant is through AP news. It is dead center in the media bias reviews, and gets consistently high scores for factual accuracy.

Other good and consistently neutral options are BBC, Bloomberg, WSJ and PBS. Unfortunately, Bloomberg and WSJ are pretty pricey.

NYT and WaPo are generally great in terms of factual accuracy, but their perspective tends to be a bit slanted.

The problem is people do get their information there, and blue check journalists sharing this legitimizes it.  We cannot make claims that potus says false things and people follow it when others are sharing false information too.

Worse, as Bill Maher said on HBO a few weeks ago, when this happens it gives him power.  It is another example that he goes to his base to show fake news.  There are already too many of those examples, and as Maher said when we provide ammo that justifies his claims all that does is benefit his claims.  The simple answer is to get the news right, don't selectively edit, be damn sure about what is reported.
"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth."
— Plato

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: jficke13 on May 09, 2020, 11:14:09 AM
That's not a point.

It's cool though, we can see your insinuations. It's smart that you use an alias. I wouldn't want to put my name to those opinions either.
Don't feed the chicos
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

jesmu84

Quote from: WarriorDad on May 09, 2020, 02:05:23 PM
The problem is people do get their information there, and blue check journalists sharing this legitimizes it.  We cannot make claims that potus says false things and people follow it when others are sharing false information too.

Worse, as Bill Maher said on HBO a few weeks ago, when this happens it gives him power.  It is another example that he goes to his base to show fake news.  There are already too many of those examples, and as Maher said when we provide ammo that justifies his claims all that does is benefit his claims.  The simple answer is to get the news right, don't selectively edit, be damn sure about what is reported.

Ah. Hold the media to a standard. But don't worry about the standards of the POTUS.

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