COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[The Sultan]

Don't show Trump this article or we'll have people injecting llama blood by the end of the weekend.

[Hards Alumni]

Don't show Trump this article or we'll have people injecting llama blood by the end of the weekend.

Oh, that's interesting.  I've heard from reliable sources you need to inject it using a turkey baster and cram it way up there it like a suppository.

Fell free to pass on that important information.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Don't show Trump this article or we'll have people injecting llama blood by the end of the weekend.

Post of the day.

[MU82]

Ready or not, NC is emerging from the lockdown to enter "Phase One" of opening up our economy on Friday.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article242507756.html?

[warriorchick]

I'm sure there is a scientific explanation, but it sure sounds like there was a night of heavy drinking involved when, around 3:00am, someone said, "You know what we should try? Llama anti-bodies."

Nah.  Pretty sure he's a Mormon.

[shoothoops]

Speaking of North Carolina, it would appear Senator Burr's brother-in-law, a Trump appointee, dumped quite a  bit of stock at a similar time just before the crash.


https://www.propublica.org/article/burr-family-stock/amp?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&__twitter_impression=true

[pbiflyer]

Social distancing has helped "flatten the curve" of the coronavirus, but University of Washington public health researchers say the death toll from this wave of the pandemic is forecast to hit about 74,000 in the United States.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242338406.html?

The researchers with the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, whose coronavirus model is cited often by the White House and states, increased the prediction for U.S. deaths from about 67,600 in their newest forecast.

The model runs through Aug. 4, but the projected total of 74,073 deaths is reached on July 15. The current model projects no additional deaths between July 15 and Aug. 4.

Institute director Christopher Murray said that if states start opening too soon, the death toll from COVID-19 could be even higher, CBS News reports.

"While most states seem to have passed their epidemic peaks, seven — Hawaii, Mississippi, Texas, Wyoming, Utah, Nebraska, and North Dakota — may be experiencing their peaks now or could be in the coming weeks," the Institute said.

Confused. Does mean it's July 15th already? Or are there going to be negative deaths between now and July 15?

[GooooMarquette]

Confused. Does mean it's July 15th already? Or are there going to be negative deaths between now and July 15?

The numbers that MU82 quoted in his post have been updated. The IHME model now predicts 135,000 deaths nationwide by August 4.

http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/new-ihme-forecast-projects-nearly-135000-covid-19-deaths-us

[pbiflyer]

The numbers that MU82 quoted in his post have been updated. The IHME model now predicts 135,000 deaths nationwide by August 4.

http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/new-ihme-forecast-projects-nearly-135000-covid-19-deaths-us

I do realize that it was clear back when it was originally released those numbers were trash.  And the new numbers have a range of 95,092 to 242,890.  Bold predictions.
It's less usable than the 5 day hurricane forecast cone.
The low range is stupid.  At the death rate during lockdown, they'd blow through that number in two weeks.  Now with things opening up, possibly sooner.
Unless there is a break through in treatment, a massive contact tracing and testing effort that isn't even in the planning stages, or the virus mutates into something less deadly, the number will be closer to the high number than the target number.

[GooooMarquette]

I do realize that it was clear back when it was originally released those numbers were trash.  And the new numbers have a range of 95,092 to 242,890.  Bold predictions.
It's less usable than the 5 day hurricane forecast cone.
The low range is stupid.  At the death rate during lockdown, they'd blow through that number in two weeks.  Now with things opening up, possibly sooner.
Unless there is a break through in treatment, a massive contact tracing and testing effort that isn't even in the planning stages, or the virus mutates into something less deadly, the number will be closer to the high number than the target number.

Agreed. The low-end number has pretty much always been unrealistically low. It almost seems to assume that ALL spread will stop immediately upon release of the latest update.

[mu_hilltopper]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html

66% of new patients were "staying home."  Brutal.

[Mutaman]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html

66% of new patients were "staying home."  Brutal.

I think tomorrow i will just stay off the internet.

[Mutaman]

Rob Lee
@RALee85
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The year is 2020. Amidst a global pandemic, Guns N' Roses' Axl Rose says the Secretary of the Treasury and producer of Wonder Woman is "officially an pretty boy." In response, the Executive Producer of the Lego Movie asks what Rose has done for his country with the flag of Liberia.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html

66% of new patients were "staying home."  Brutal.

This isn't shocking unless they were truly isolating.  I figure the grocery is my best chance to get it even when 'staying home'.

[rocket surgeon]

 fwiw-eggs have been used for over 70 years to incubate both live attenuated and non-attenuated influenza vaccines

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/how-fluvaccine-made.htm

unfortunately sometimes too much information for certain "sectors" of our population can lead to unintended consequences.  some very revealing and sad.  usually from the "hold my beer and watch this" crowd

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/how-fluvaccine-made.htm

[TSmith34, Inc.]

fwiw-eggs have been used for over 70 years to incubate both live attenuated and non-attenuated influenza vaccines

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/how-fluvaccine-made.htm

unfortunately sometimes too much information for certain "sectors" of our population can lead to unintended consequences.  some very revealing and sad.  usually from the "hold my beer and watch this" crowd

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/how-fluvaccine-made.htm

[Hards Alumni]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html

66% of new patients were "staying home."  Brutal.

Bad news, of course.  Problem is that in apartment buildings if one person gets infected there is no lock down of the building.  China did this, and of course it worked.  Can't and wouldn't work here.  That is how this spreads.  One person sick, spreads it to their family and they don't show symptoms for a few days, and by that time a lot  of the common areas in the building are causing spread among the rest of the tenants.

This virus is going to continue to be brutal in tight spaces that aren't cleaned and disinfected daily.

[jesmu84]

Science-based reopening guidance? Absolutely not!

https://apnews.com/7a00d5fba3249e573d2ead4bd323a4d4

[The Sultan]

Science-based reopening guidance? Absolutely not!

https://apnews.com/7a00d5fba3249e573d2ead4bd323a4d4

The lack of leadership at the federal level, with the obvious goal of absolving the President of any responsibility, is stunning.  History is not going to treat this well. 

[tower912]

This partially answers goooooo's question about where the CDC has been.

[mu_hilltopper]

This is a fantastic thread:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258166483085033472.html

[The Sultan]

This is a fantastic thread:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258166483085033472.html

The last two are exactly what I have been saying for weeks:

As @davidfrum told me, it's impossible to get an A in managing a pandemic. There are no silver bullets. But it's really not hard to get a B. Listen to experts. Create a plan. Show empathy. Stick with it. It's the best you can be expected to do.

Our expectations are simple.

The truth, no matter how hard.
To know that our safety matters.
A plan which uses all our tools & best thinking that we stick with.
Candor in discussing the tough trade offs.

We're not getting that.

[The Sultan]

BTW, I should also say that after feeling fairly optimistic last week, I have done a 180 this week.  There is no coordinated plan.  More and more people are losing their jobs.  There are mini outbreaks all over where people are working in close contact with one another.  Conspiracy theories are being tossed around on social media undermining any sense of unity in this effort.  Government disfunction seems at an all time high. 

We seem to be pinning all of our hopes on hitting a home run with a limited use in September.

Not to go full JB here, but it seems like things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

[Hards Alumni]

This is a fantastic thread:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258166483085033472.html

https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-is-coming-for-the-red-states-too-164317490.html

Don't worry, It'll be a big deal in the weeks ahead when small towns have to deal with it.  We will hear all about the 'left behind' America, because NOW its affecting them.  Just like my idiot cousin who was at the protests in Madison a couple of weeks back, it isn't real for them until it actually affects them on a personal level.  The only thing she is missing out on now is going to work, going to church, going to the store, and her kids are out of school.  Those things personally affect her.  Not the virus.  To her, it still isn't real.  Just another one of the hopeless, until it is in her house.

[MU82]

This is a fantastic thread:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258166483085033472.html

Superb. One of the best things I have read on the situation in all these weeks. Thanks for posting.

Science-based reopening guidance? Absolutely not!

https://apnews.com/7a00d5fba3249e573d2ead4bd323a4d4

This was interesting, too, and very sad.