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MU82

NC governor just announced that schools officially closed for the rest of the school year. Yesterday, he had announced an extension of our stay-at-home policy through May 8. After that, the economy can begin to re-open in 3 phases as long as certain COVID-19 benchmarks are being met.

If all goes well, NC can be close to "back to normal" by mid-June. The optimist in me thinks there's a chance for that, but the realist in me is concerned that many benchmarks will not be met.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

pbiflyer

At least they have a plan. That is better than most.

Warriors4ever

Free a, the woman I read about is a 23 year old model, so not the same person.
The article itself is in Italian, somebody on their forum kindly translated it.
I confess I do not know how to cut and paste prior posts, so I apologize if that makes this confusing. 🤔

GooooMarquette

Quote from: pbiflyer on April 24, 2020, 01:37:47 PM
At least they have a plan. That is better than most.


I think many states have plans, but NC just happens to be one of the first states ready to begin Phase One, according to the timeline of decline in new cases. There was a list posted somewhere that gave rough dates by state, but I can't seem to find it.

I believe it estimated that one state (Montana? Wyoming?) would be ready by May 1, with four or five others (including NC) ready about a week later.

Jockey

Quote from: pbiflyer on April 24, 2020, 01:37:47 PM
At least they have a plan. That is better than most.

Actually, many governors have the same plan.

MU82

Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 24, 2020, 02:41:52 PM

I think many states have plans, but NC just happens to be one of the first states ready to begin Phase One, according to the timeline of decline in new cases. There was a list posted somewhere that gave rough dates by state, but I can't seem to find it.

I believe it estimated that one state (Montana? Wyoming?) would be ready by May 1, with four or five others (including NC) ready about a week later.

We'll see. I'm hoping, but not counting on it.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

pbiflyer


GooooMarquette

Quote from: pbiflyer on April 24, 2020, 07:40:33 PM
SC, GA, and FL don't.


Probably why he said 'many' instead of 'all.'

I'm guessing about half follow through with rational, scientifically-driven plans, and about half get itchy and follow haphazard paths like SC, GA and FL.

MU82

I'm still trying to figure out how a customer gets a pedicure, manicure, haircut, massage or tattoo from a practitioner standing or sitting 6 feet away.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: MU82 on April 24, 2020, 10:38:46 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how a customer gets a pedicure, manicure, haircut, massage or tattoo from a practitioner standing or sitting 6 feet away.

With a mask. Or a case of don't give a F, get this damn hair off of my head.

The Sultan

Eventually salons are going to have to open before we have a vaccine right?  The fact is we are going to have to return to some semblance of "normal" that still isn't going to prevent the disease from spreading entirely.  People are still going to get sick and some are going to die.  Hopefuly we can mitigate the spread and get a better understanding of how to treat before we hopefully can get a vaccine. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jay Bee

Many more will DIE!

#LastDays

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MU82

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 25, 2020, 06:46:12 AM
Eventually salons are going to have to open before we have a vaccine right?  The fact is we are going to have to return to some semblance of "normal" that still isn't going to prevent the disease from spreading entirely.  People are still going to get sick and some are going to die.  Hopefuly we can mitigate the spread and get a better understanding of how to treat before we hopefully can get a vaccine.

I understand, and I agree.

But don't pretend that you are a governor who is still emphasizing social distancing when you are allowing businesses that do tattoos and manicures.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on April 25, 2020, 07:43:17 AM
I understand, and I agree.

But don't pretend that you are a governor who is still emphasizing social distancing when you are allowing businesses that do tattoos and manicures.


But that's going to happen.  Eventually its going to be about mitigating risk.  Salons, restaurants and retail shops are going to open AND people are still going to be working remotely, wearing masks and trying to stay six feet apart from one another.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Frenns Liquor Depot

#4639
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 25, 2020, 07:59:59 AM

But that's going to happen.  Eventually its going to be about mitigating risk.  Salons, restaurants and retail shops are going to open AND people are still going to be working remotely, wearing masks and trying to stay six feet apart from one another.

I disagree in that this has always been about mitigating risk.  Thats what the guidelines are for.  To tell states when things have moved from 'out of control' to 'something manageable'. 

Case in point - this is an essential industry...if we cant figure it out here, a hair salon is infinitely more complex.

https://thehill.com/homenews/494053-tyson-foods-closes-iowa-pork-plant-indefinitely

GooooMarquette

#4640
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 25, 2020, 08:03:26 AM

I disagree in that this has always been about mitigating risk.  Thats what the guidelines are for.  To tell states when things have moved from 'out of control' to 'something manageable'. 


Agree completely.

If a state truly wants to "mitigate risk," then at a minimum it would follow the three-phase plan laid out by the administration. States that open before meeting the criteria are simply living with a higher level of risk and hoping for a miracle. And 'hoping for a miracle' is not the same as mitigating risk.

Frenns Liquor Depot

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/

Geez this thing is nasty.  I guess now is a good time to familiarize yourself with the FAST test. 

MU82

Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 25, 2020, 09:21:06 AM

If a state truly wants to "mitigate risk," then at a minimum it would follow the three-phase plan laid out by the administration. States that open before meeting the criteria are simply living with a higher level of risk and hoping for a miracle. And 'hoping for a miracle' is not the same as mitigating risk.

Yep.

We all know (or at least hope) normal-ish life is going to happen again eventually. When you're a GOP governor whose re-opening plan is so loose that even President Pandemic criticizes it for being too much too soon, it's probably waaaay too much and waaaay too soon.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

forgetful

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 25, 2020, 11:03:16 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/

Geez this thing is nasty.  I guess now is a good time to familiarize yourself with the FAST test.

And we really have no idea why some people are affected so hard, and others not. A lot of these with unusual deaths, are in people with no preexisting conditions.

So weird. And I still think we are all (well most 60% wish) likely to get this sometime between now and next May. It's quite honestly a role of the dice on which of us are affected hard or not at all (asymptomatic).

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 25, 2020, 11:03:16 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/

Geez this thing is nasty.  I guess now is a good time to familiarize yourself with the FAST test.

Because I wasn't familiar with FAST - a PSA...
QuoteFAST is an acronym used as a mnemonic to help detect and enhance responsiveness to the needs of a person having a stroke. The acronym stands for Facial drooping, Arm weakness, Speech difficulties and Time to call emergency services.

Facial drooping: A section of the face, usually only on one side, that is drooping and hard to move. This can be recognized by a crooked smile.
Arm weakness: The inability to raise one's arm fully
Speech difficulties: An inability or difficulty to understand or produce speech
Time: If any of the symptoms above are showing, time is of the essence; call the emergency services and go to the hospital immediately.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: forgetful on April 25, 2020, 11:55:51 AM
And we really have no idea why some people are affected so hard, and others not. A lot of these with unusual deaths, are in people with no preexisting conditions.

So weird. And I still think we are all (well most 60% wish) likely to get this sometime between now and next May. It's quite honestly a role of the dice on which of us are affected hard or not at all (asymptomatic).

It is a strange pattern. Hopefully docs can find some common denominator so those who are truly at elevated risk can take additional precautions (or perhaps be given priority access to convalescent plasma as soon as they are infected?) to mitigate the number and severity of nasty outcomes.

tower912

Different hospitals have different levels of stroke mitigation.   If you live in an area with multiple hospitals, do a little research as to which is the most advanced.
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Frenns Liquor Depot

This is nuts.  96% asymptomatic across 4 different prisons?  It feels like the further we get into this, the less we know.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494670-ninety-six-percent-of-inmates-in-four-state-prisons-who-tested-positive

injuryBug

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 25, 2020, 06:48:11 PM
This is nuts.  96% asymptomatic across 4 different prisons?  It feels like the further we get into this, the less we know.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494670-ninety-six-percent-of-inmates-in-four-state-prisons-who-tested-positive

Actually sounds about right with everything that is out the there.  The amount that get sick enough to need hospital attention is very low. 

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