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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.


Jay Bee

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Frenns Liquor Depot


Lennys Tap

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 17, 2020, 10:35:22 AM
Lenny - Dont you think the last part is hyperbolic?  I mean you can find people supporting or whining about anything, but the travel ban has been one of the Presidents least controversial decisions on this topic.  Many corporations had already deployed this ban (and quarantining employees who were in China in Early Jan) weeks ahead as well...so really not that surprising.

Hyperbolic? True. Hyperbolic political rants took over and ruined this thread a long, long time ago. Almost all from the same bias. Apologies for contributing to the sh!t show.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 17, 2020, 08:09:38 PM
Hyperbolic? True. Hyperbolic political rants took over and ruined this thread a long, long time ago. Almost all from the same bias. Apologies for contributing to the sh!t show.

Sorry I find you to be reasonable and fact based person. So it took my off guard.

Jay Bee

I recommend stocking up on non-perishable food. The shortages and insanity will come along soon. Jah Bless.

#LastDays
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 17, 2020, 08:12:32 PM
Sorry I find you to be reasonable and fact based person. So it took my off guard.

Thanks, Frenns. Not falling off the deep end intentionally. I'm self prescribing a couple of days away from this thread in hopes of regaining my equilibrium.

Jay Bee

The way out of this is through testing, tracing, treatment and a vaccine.... thus far, it feels our accomplishments are none and we have no answers Re: strength of antibodies and such.

We are completely screwed.

#LastDays
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Jay Bee on April 17, 2020, 08:16:44 PM
I recommend stocking up on non-perishable food. The shortages and insanity will come along soon. Jah Bless.

#LastDays

Quote from: Jay Bee on April 17, 2020, 09:35:04 PM
The way out of this is through testing, tracing, treatment and a vaccine.... thus far, it feels our accomplishments are none and we have no answers Re: strength of antibodies and such.

We are completely screwed.

#LastDays


Jay Bee

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MU82

Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 17, 2020, 05:54:17 PM
I am not a big fan of POTUS delegating this entirely to the states, but once he did this I wish he would stick to it. But he can't help himself. Yesterday, "states can decide." Today, "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!!," "LIBERATE MINNESOTA!!," "LIBERATE VIRGINIA!!"

So does he want states to follow his deliberate 3-phase plan, or not?

Don't his supporters see the inherent inconsistency in these messages?

You're kidding, right?

The one time he wasn't lying was when he said he could shoot people on 5th Avenue and not lose their support.

That tweet he sent was beyond hypocrisy, it was dangerous.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jay Bee

Quote from: MU82 on April 17, 2020, 10:09:30 PM
You're kidding, right?

The one time he wasn't lying was when he said he could shoot people on 5th Avenue and not lose their support.

That tweet he sent was beyond hypocrisy, it was dangerous.

This is helpful

Also, completely against forum rules

Mods, #banDisGFindividual
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GooooMarquette

Quote from: MU82 on April 17, 2020, 10:09:30 PM
You're kidding, right?

The one time he wasn't lying was when he said he could shoot people on 5th Avenue and not lose their support.

That tweet he sent was beyond hypocrisy, it was dangerous.


Yeah - just desperately grasping for a ray of hope. I need some hope....

MU82

Quote from: Jay Bee on April 17, 2020, 10:14:27 PM
This is helpful

Also, completely against forum rules

Mods, #banDisGFindividual

You sure are effen boring when you're not trolling about the End Times.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: Jay Bee on April 17, 2020, 09:35:04 PM
The way out of this is through testing, tracing, treatment and a vaccine.... thus far, it feels our accomplishments are none and we have no answers Re: strength of antibodies and such.

I am encouraged by treatment progress.  No clue on vaccine.  Someone needs to put a boot in our societies collective ass on tracing/testing/serology.  Agree?

Vander Blue Man Group


GooooMarquette

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 17, 2020, 10:29:13 PM
I am encouraged by treatment progress.  No clue on vaccine.  Someone needs to put a boot in our societies collective ass on tracing/testing/serology.  Agree?


The research on a couple of treatments (remdesovir and convalescent plasma) looks pretty promising.

As for testing, private organizations and state labs are doing a pretty good job. Some help from CDC would have been a game-changer.

Contact tracing should be done by CDC, but they seem to be passing this buck to states. Damn shame, because it will slow things down.

pbiflyer

There has never been a successful vaccine for a Coronavirus ever. Not holding my breath for anything soon.

Jockey

Quote from: pbiflyer on April 17, 2020, 11:36:30 PM
There has never been a successful vaccine for a Coronavirus ever. Not holding my breath for anything soon.

C'mon man. Your post is gonna make JB start crying again.

forgetful

Quote from: pbiflyer on April 17, 2020, 11:36:30 PM
There has never been a successful vaccine for a Coronavirus ever. Not holding my breath for anything soon.

That in part has been because there is no money in one. There may be money in developing this one.

Frenns Liquor Depot

This article covers a study that tried to put a number on the level of testing required.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/17/us/coronavirus-testing-states.html

warriorchick

Quote from: pbiflyer on April 17, 2020, 11:36:30 PM
There has never been a successful vaccine for a Coronavirus ever. Not holding my breath for anything soon.

I see what you did there.
Have some patience, FFS.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 17, 2020, 10:29:13 PM
I am encouraged by treatment progress.  No clue on vaccine.  Someone needs to put a boot in our societies collective ass on tracing/testing/serology.  Agree?
I'm weirdly optimistic about the therapeutic treatments being tested. Whether it is plasma, Gilead's drug, one of the several others with initial encouraging results, or a combo of some or all of these, I feel we are not that far from a treatment regiment that will get this under control.

Vaccine, not so much. At least not in the sense of inoculating people against getting the virus. Maybe something as effective as a flu shot, but the efficacy of that varies a lot from year to year.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

The Sultan

A vaccine will the efficacy of the flu vaccine, combined with better theraputic treatments, will be plenty to get society back to "normal."
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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