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forgetful

Having seen the press conference today, my take away is that we are a long ways from getting a handle on this from the standpoint of testing.

Testing is still going to be rationed for what sounds like 2-weeks to first responders and the elderly, or critically sick. That means that the garden variety illness will still be out there, undetected, and possibly circulating virus, spreading it further.

That means we are at the mercy of people following extreme social distancing to stem a massive growth of this illness.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: forgetful on March 15, 2020, 06:09:07 PM
That means we are at the mercy of people following extreme social distancing to stem a massive growth of this illness.
"Rep. Devin Nunes of California urged Americans to go out and visit bars and restaurants on Sunday, amid mounting calls by experts for people to avoid public gatherings to avoid spreading coronavirus, which causes the disease COVID-19."
https://news.yahoo.com/local-pub-while-experts-call-182229550.html

Well that's helpful.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

cheebs09

Quote from: TSmith34 on March 15, 2020, 06:27:37 PM
"Rep. Devin Nunes of California urged Americans to go out and visit bars and restaurants on Sunday, amid mounting calls by experts for people to avoid public gatherings to avoid spreading coronavirus, which causes the disease COVID-19."
https://news.yahoo.com/local-pub-while-experts-call-182229550.html

Well that's helpful.

I believe CA closed all bars and restaurants and only allow delivery, takeout, and drive through.

MU82

Quote from: TSmith34 on March 15, 2020, 06:27:37 PM
"Rep. Devin Nunes of California urged Americans to go out and visit bars and restaurants on Sunday, amid mounting calls by experts for people to avoid public gatherings to avoid spreading coronavirus, which causes the disease COVID-19."
https://news.yahoo.com/local-pub-while-experts-call-182229550.html

Well that's helpful.

Consider who his idol is.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MUfan12

CDC recommends no public gatherings of 50+ for the next 8 weeks.

I think June looks like the best case for baseball. Not sure what the NBA and NHL will do.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: forgetful on March 15, 2020, 06:09:07 PM
Having seen the press conference today, my take away is that we are a long ways from getting a handle on this from the standpoint of testing.

Testing is still going to be rationed for what sounds like 2-weeks to first responders and the elderly, or critically sick. That means that the garden variety illness will still be out there, undetected, and possibly circulating virus, spreading it further.

That means we are at the mercy of people following extreme social distancing to stem a massive growth of this illness.


You're probably right...but there appear to be regions where lower-risk people can get tested if they're symptomatic.

Just one relevant data point - I know of a twenty-sonething kid in rural Iowa who developed a sore throat and dry scratchy cough, and he got tested yesterday. Didn't hear the results, but I sure hope the kid tests negative...among other things, because he works in retail and has had contact with LOTS of people lately.

jesmu84


jesmu84

My hospital - and most in state of Indiana - have suspended elective surgeries.

Unprecedented

lostpassword

Quote from: TSmith34 on March 15, 2020, 06:27:37 PM
"Rep. Devin Nunes of California urged Americans to go out and visit bars and restaurants on Sunday, amid mounting calls by experts for people to avoid public gatherings to avoid spreading coronavirus, which causes the disease COVID-19."
https://news.yahoo.com/local-pub-while-experts-call-182229550.html

Well that's helpful.

This doesn't help either:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/15/politics/oklahoma-governor-deleted-tweet-coronavirus/index.html

I found this simulator interesting:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

Dish

Quote from: Jockey on March 15, 2020, 05:56:41 PM
If this virus happened under any other president in history, it would be a no-brainer. But these are dire times.

Still, I'll be shocked if it isn't postponed by midday tomorrow.

I believe it would be Pritzker's decision (?). It seems contradictory to have restaurants/bars close (dine in) and yet have people at polling places (especially older people). Two other states postponed, I'm not sure why Illinois is hell bent on having Tuesday be voting day.

Frenns Liquor Depot

At least get it right if you are going to fly off the handle about politics.  Dish is talking about IL.

Let's Go Warriors

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 15, 2020, 07:19:49 PM
At least get it right if you are going to fly off the handle about politics.  Dish is talking about IL.

Sorry
What is someone supposed to take from "This Administration"

Also.

I really believe
Trump
Democrats
Media

All really let us down.  This was an issue in early January...
They were all fighting over impeachment instead.

A$$clowns all of them...
Warrior As defined by Webster's:
A person who fights in battles and is known for having courage and skill

Frenns Liquor Depot

Barely the Chinese fully appreciated what they had on 1/15.  Just take a breath man.  It is a fact that one party controls the bureaucracy.  So there will be stones thrown.   Were all in this together.  Good news is that everyone is now taking this seriously and the Dr's seem to be directing the policy recommendations.   

forgetful

Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 15, 2020, 06:36:09 PM

You're probably right...but there appear to be regions where lower-risk people can get tested if they're symptomatic.

Just one relevant data point - I know of a twenty-sonething kid in rural Iowa who developed a sore throat and dry scratchy cough, and he got tested yesterday. Didn't hear the results, but I sure hope the kid tests negative...among other things, because he works in retail and has had contact with LOTS of people lately.

I'm afraid that there are very poor policies and guidance on these issues, so it will be a very random process, highly dependent on where you live.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Let's Go Warriors on March 15, 2020, 07:22:17 PM
Sorry
What is someone supposed to take from "This Administration"

Also.

I really believe
Trump
Democrats
Media

All really let us down.  This was an issue in early January...
They were all fighting over impeachment instead.

A$$clowns all of them...

We're trying to leave political finger pointing out of it.  But if you really think Trump is the politician  who has handled this the best - well, you're clueless.  But we agree, they're all assclowns, it's just that the assclown at the top gets the most criticism - much like a head coach does.

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 15, 2020, 07:33:14 PM
But we agree, they're all assclowns, it's just that the assclown at the top gets the most criticism - much like a head coach does.

Except Xi.  For some reason there isn't anyone around that criticizes him. 

warriorchick

Quote from: MUDish on March 15, 2020, 06:52:37 PM
I believe it would be Pritzker's decision (?). It seems contradictory to have restaurants/bars close (dine in) and yet have people at polling places (especially older people). Two other states postponed, I'm not sure why Illinois is hell bent on having Tuesday be voting day.

Because Illinois.
Have some patience, FFS.

JWags85

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 15, 2020, 06:41:27 PM
My hospital - and most in state of Indiana - have suspended elective surgeries.

Unprecedented

NYC just enacted the same this afternoon

Quote from: MUfan12 on March 15, 2020, 06:34:02 PM
I think June looks like the best case for baseball. Not sure what the NBA and NHL will do.

I don't know about the NHL, but there has been chatter for a long time about the NBA starting later and ending later, avoiding more head to head matchups with football. Postponing the season and carrying it out through the summer would be a really interesting test of that potential viability.

Jockey

Quote from: MUDish on March 15, 2020, 06:52:37 PM
I believe it would be Pritzker's decision (?). It seems contradictory to have restaurants/bars close (dine in) and yet have people at polling places (especially older people). Two other states postponed, I'm not sure why Illinois is hell bent on having Tuesday be voting day.

I agree with all you say here, Dish.

Pakuni

Quote from: MUDish on March 15, 2020, 06:52:37 PM
I believe it would be Pritzker's decision (?). It seems contradictory to have restaurants/bars close (dine in) and yet have people at polling places (especially older people). Two other states postponed, I'm not sure why Illinois is hell bent on having Tuesday be voting day.

Not necessarily defending the decision, but there's a vastly significant difference between a person's experience in a polling place and a person's experience in a bar or restaurant. Most people - especially in a primary when turnout is very low - are in and out of their polling place in a matter of minutes, with little to no close contact with others.
On the other hand, people sit in bars and restaurants for hours at a time, usually surrounded by many others, touching multiple surfaces, using restrooms and often touching or exchanging glasses, plates, money, etc.

A case can be made for postponing the primary, I suppose, but that doesn't logically follow the restaurant bar closings. Rather, the polling place is much more akin to picking up food from a deliveryman or drive-through window - which will continue in Illinois - than it is sitting down for a meal or happy hour.

FWIW, it's not just Illinois. Ohio, Florida and Arizona also are holding primaries Tuesday.

CreightonWarrior

Someone in Omaha who just tested positive for Coronavirus attended both the Creighton/Georgetown and Creighton/Seton Hall games last weeks so that's really comforting. Also reminds me that the last game of the regular season was JUST 8 days ago. Felt like a month ago.

MU Fan in Connecticut


MU82

#1224
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 15, 2020, 07:33:14 PM
We're trying to leave political finger pointing out of it.  But if you really think Trump is the politician  who has handled this the best - well, you're clueless.

An absolute disaster from the get-go: downplaying the coronavirus; repeatedly lying about its potential effect on Americans and our economy; doubling-down whenever challenged with facts;  negating his own experts' opinions, often at the same press conference

Rocky's edit: I realize I'm enabling here.  But hey, don't go overboard.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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