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Author Topic: Wojo...what the hell  (Read 9319 times)

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #150 on: January 26, 2020, 03:01:31 PM »
No one asked because we lost. But in the context of an abysmal multi-faceted meltdown a head scratching foul is just a cog in a much bigger gear.
Well said sir...

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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #151 on: January 26, 2020, 04:17:21 PM »
So Wojo said the last time he looked MU was down by two.You mean he didn't look at scoreboard the whole second half?MU was not behind the whole second half until he decided to foul and give Butler the lead.His defense philosophy is a another topic.Change defenses or double Baldwin and get the ball out of his hands.Make someone else beat you.Elementary.

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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #152 on: January 26, 2020, 04:19:32 PM »
This. Crean would have thrown up some pr crap to confuse his bad decisions and Buzz would have gone into full hunker down mode. Both also made plenty of in-game errors.

That said, especially for an emotional game coach like Wojo who is dug in on his systems, this is on his staff for not setting this up in the huddle right before on situationals. It’s an opportunity improvement area, and honestly owning up to those mistakes is critical for change.

Six years in and THIS is an area for improvement?

It's worse than I thought...

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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #153 on: January 26, 2020, 04:44:43 PM »

LOL

Mick Cronin just got called for a technical for having 6 men on the court.

It wasn't just a guy standing on the court. 6 guys were out on the floor playing at the same time.

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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #154 on: January 26, 2020, 06:03:16 PM »
LOL

Mick Cronin just got called for a technical for having 6 men on the court.

It wasn't just a guy standing on the court. 6 guys were out on the floor playing at the same time.

Lol

No wonder why Fluffy Sultan wants him....he gets to play with one extra guy on the court.  Doesn’t he know the rules?  The hypocrisy is epic here.
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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #155 on: January 26, 2020, 07:25:17 PM »
I haven't seen this brought up much since the end of the game. What exactly are the roles of the half-dozen assistant coaches during the game? I certainly don't give those guys a free pass here. Plenty of blame to go around.
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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #156 on: January 26, 2020, 09:40:57 PM »
Firing not enough for Wojo.

Flog him on the public square. Then shoot him. Then flog him again. Then shoot him 3 more times.

Because if there's one thing Kobe's helicopter crash taught us, it's that nothing is more important than a Marquette basketball game.
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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #157 on: January 26, 2020, 09:51:22 PM »
Disagree.

When I played and when my kids played, I had respect for coaches who admitted mistakes. And as a coach myself now, I have had two occasions on which I admitted to mistakes. I genuinely think it gave me credibility -- we're human, and we all make mistakes -- brought the team together and made us better. After one of those admissions, we went on to win the league title; after the other, we got to the title game.

Having said all that ...

It was a bad mistake by Wojo.

Even worse was letting Baldwin get to the same spot on the floor time and time again. It was disappointing to lose a game we had

Agreed. And as a competitive person, I hope it lights a fire in him to study end game scenarios so that the next time a collapse is underway he has a counter and a counter to the counter. This type of thing should eat him alive for a while and hopefully he'll come out the other side better for it.

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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #158 on: January 26, 2020, 10:03:39 PM »
Firing not enough for Wojo.

Flog him on the public square. Then shoot him. Then flog him again. Then shoot him 3 more times.

Because if there's one thing Kobe's helicopter crash taught us, it's that nothing is more important than a Marquette basketball game.

Some people like to beat dead horses and live horses. It's just who they are.

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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #159 on: January 26, 2020, 10:59:17 PM »
Wojo clearly fooked up but the funny thing is it ultimately had no bearing on the end of the game.  Butler had ball in a tie game they were gonna run the clock out n win or tie.  Sure it took a Koby three, but regulation ended in a tie.  Much ado about nothing really.  MU lost because we couldnt get stops n defensive rebounds and couldnt execute offensively during the last 5 minutes.
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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #160 on: January 26, 2020, 11:08:10 PM »
Wojo clearly fooked up but the funny thing is it ultimately had no bearing on the end of the game.  Butler had ball in a tie game they were gonna run the clock out n win or tie.  Sure it took a Koby three, but regulation ended in a tie.  Much ado about nothing really.  MU lost because we couldnt get stops n defensive rebounds and couldnt execute offensively during the last 5 minutes.

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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #161 on: January 27, 2020, 06:59:35 AM »
Wojo clearly fooked up but the funny thing is it ultimately had no bearing on the end of the game.  Butler had ball in a tie game they were gonna run the clock out n win or tie.  Sure it took a Koby three, but regulation ended in a tie.  Much ado about nothing really.  MU lost because we couldnt get stops n defensive rebounds and couldnt execute offensively during the last 5 minutes.
A lot of Wojo hate here. He's our coach. Deal with it.

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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #162 on: January 27, 2020, 08:06:40 AM »
A lot of Wojo hate here. He's our coach. Deal with it.


Nobody expects him to be fired.  But people are clearly frustrated with the lack of progress and post season success.
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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #163 on: January 27, 2020, 08:29:53 AM »

Nobody expects him to be fired.  But people are clearly frustrated with the lack of progress and post season success.
Complaining about lack of post season success in the middle of a season is crazy. That is an argument for the off season.

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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #164 on: January 27, 2020, 08:36:45 AM »
Complaining about lack of post season success in the middle of a season is crazy. That is an argument for the off season.

Five years.  No tournament wins.  That is longer than any post-Dukiet coach has gone without winning a game in the tournament.
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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #165 on: January 27, 2020, 08:51:29 AM »
Five years.  No tournament wins.  That is longer than any post-Dukiet coach has gone without winning a game in the tournament.

Serious question, Sultan:

If we had beaten South Carolina in the '17 NCAA tourney and then lost by 40 to Duke, and had everything since then happened exactly the way it went down -- no NCAAs the next year, late collapse last year, embarrassing loss to Murray State, Hausershima, 14-6/4-4 this season so far -- Scoop would be overwhelmingly filled with, "Hey, Wojo's actually a darn good coach"?

Do you think that a single one of the Nojos would be even one iota happier with Wojo had he delivered an NCAA tournament win?

I mean, for at least a couple years, the knock against him was that he couldn't win 3 BEast games in a row. Then, last season, he had BEast winning streaks of 8 and 4 games ... so the Nojos lay in wait to find something else to complain about.

I am NOT saying there hasn't been reason to complain; nor am I advocating for the silencing of Nojos. I am generally Projo, but I have criticized Wojo numerous times over the last year, including in this very thread.

But the contention that if he had just won a single tournament game, folks would get off his back ... I sincerely doubt that.

There would still be the same cast of characters starting 3, 5, 10+ threads that just say the same things over and over and over and over again.

Then we win 3 in a row, and those folks disappear ... only to resurface and go ballistic, as if the world is about to end, the next time we lose. It makes Scoop borderline unreadable.
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Re: Wojo...what the hell
« Reply #166 on: January 27, 2020, 08:58:47 AM »
I think some people would feel marginally better about Wojo had they beat South Carolina.  And they wouldn't have lost to Duke by 40.
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