Charting This Year Versus Last Year

[GooooMarquette]

This all BS speculation. No one knows.

Even if Sacar and Brendan were just speculation, it doesn't get past the fact that Markus would have had to leave for Sam and Joey to stay.

And with Markus, we have one of the most unstoppable offensive players the game has ever seen. Every team game-plans for Markus as the 1, 2 and 3 options, hedges on every screen and drapes him with two or three defenders. And he still keeps dropping 30 points per game. I will take the unique joy of one more season with Markus over one with Sam and one or two with soft-serve vanilla any day.

So yeah, maybe Sacar leaves or maybe he doesn't. Maybe Brendan leaves or maybe he doesn't. But if we still had Sam and Joey, it would mean we do NOT still have Markus, and that would be very unfortunate.

[Heisenberg]

Update chart through game 20 (Butler).  The ranking is going into the game
(see the first post in this thread for more color on this chart)

[Heisenberg]

Game-by-game KenPom rankings since he starting daily rankings in 2011.

[#UnleashSean]

You are correct that no one knows, but if you think everyone else was going to stay had the Hausers not left, I am not sure what to tell you.  Would you want to be teammates with Joey Hauser? His attitude would have most likely been even worse as a sophomore. The team would have had a much different look than this years team had they stayed and others left and most likely been much less athletic and worse defensively.  So when people say that we would have been better this year if the Hausers had stayed, that is just a guess, since like you said, no one know what would have happened with other players.

Oh look, more hearsay that has never been said anywhere but scoop. And its taken as the truth.

[tower912]

So your hearsay says that if the Hausers had stayed no one else would have left?

[rocket surgeon]

I thought it was about his play but I remember one game (I believe vs. DePaul) Joey had a turnover right before the break and Markus got in his face just a bit. Joey's reaction was just horrible. When you got one of the leaders on your team talking to you about a mistake, you can't have that attitude. I am fairly certain this was mentioned in other threads but if Joey has that attitude, imagine how he reacts if Izzo gets in his grill like he did Aaron Henry last year.

Unfortunately or not, I'd rather have wojo in my grill than Izzo.

[jsglow]

I thought it was about his play but I remember one game (I believe vs. DePaul) Joey had a turnover right before the break and Markus got in his face just a bit. Joey's reaction was just horrible. When you got one of the leaders on your team talking to you about a mistake, you can't have that attitude. I am fairly certain this was mentioned in other threads but if Joey has that attitude, imagine how he reacts if Izzo gets in his grill like he did Aaron Henry last year.

Happened RIGHT in front of us as chick and I were courtside.  VSS couldn't take a little motivation from his freakin' Captain.  In contrast that night was Jamal.  He had been absolutely mired for weeks.  Had a good game and feed off the motivation of the upperclassmen and the MU fans in the stands.

[MU82]

Unfortunately, the chart doesn't reflect the Hausers staying but Markus, Bailey, Sacar and others going. And Dawson not signing.

[MU1980]

Oh look, more hearsay that has never been said anywhere but scoop. And its taken as the truth.

Not once did I say anything about heresay and in fact started my post by saying no one knows for sure. I came to the conclusion all by myself that it was very unlikely everyone stays if the Hausers had not left. This is not based on heresay, but from watching the team and using common sense and logic. It was a very, very good thing for Marquette that Joey left and unfortunate that Sam did. But this is a better team this year than it would have been had they stayed and certainly we are much better off going forward without Joey here, since our recruiting class would have had a very different look next year. Most of us can see this and then there are a few that think we would be better off if they stayed, but with no logical arguments for thinking that.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Unfortunately or not, I'd rather have wojo in my grill than Izzo.

Izzo would be yelling at your belly button.

[willie warrior]

You are correct that no one knows, but if you think everyone else was going to stay had the Hausers not left, I am not sure what to tell you.  Would you want to be teammates with Joey Hauser? His attitude would have most likely been even worse as a sophomore. The team would have had a much different look than this years team had they stayed and others left and most likely been much less athletic and worse defensively.  So when people say that we would have been better this year if the Hausers had stayed, that is just a guess, since like you said, no one know what would have happened with other players.

You know what they say about opinions.

[The Sultan]

You know what they say about opinions.

Your's is usually really odd?

[MU1980]

You know what they say about opinions.
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Many of us enjoy seeing the opinions of their fellow scoopers, but in my opinion very few people have any desire to hear your opinions. I rarely post so my opinion is probably irrelevant.

[Heisenberg]

Through the Creighton loss

[Heisenberg]

MU went into today's game rated 26 and left rated 30
Georgetown will be game 27.

[asdfasdf]

MU went into today's game rated 26 and left rated 30
Georgetown will be game 27.

What is the y axis on these charts? Ken pom ranking?

[Heisenberg]

yes

[asdfasdf]

yes

Was Marquette really ranked #12 in kenpom after the 3rd game of the season? I don't remember us being that highly regarded at the beginning of the season.