Texas Fans Done With Shaka Smart - Is His Fate Tied To Wojo's?

[Cheeks]

We all know what you want Cheeks. You're not fooling anyone.

Yes, I want to know why he thought that was necessary.  It wasn't...you can defend it all you want, you are not fooling anyone. Race is a constant thing with some of you guys.

[brewcity77]

What does race have to do with it?

When it comes to Duke? A ton. I'm talking about the perception of why Stevens is a fit, and if you think him being a clean cut, boyish looking white guy isn't a big part, maybe the biggest part of that, you're delusional. People still view Duke through the 1990s lens when Laettner & Hurley were the faces of the program. It's not true, but the perception has never changed.

[The Sultan]

Yes, I want to know why he thought that was necessary.  It wasn't...you can defend it all you want, you are not fooling anyone. Race is a constant thing with some of you guys.

Better than being ignorant about it.

[WhoaJoe2020]

When it comes to Duke? A ton. I'm talking about the perception of why Stevens is a fit, and if you think him being a clean cut, boyish looking white guy isn't a big part, maybe the biggest part of that, you're delusional. People still view Duke through the 1990s lens when Laettner & Hurley were the faces of the program. It's not true, but the perception has never changed.

Agreed, racism sucks but it's reality. As is sexism, ageism, and discrimination based on religious and sexual preference.

It still affects decision making now, and I imagine it will in the future. Acknowledging that fact is the best way to continue addressing these issues.

Saying problem solved!, is actually counterproductive.

[4everwarriors]

When it comes to Duke? A ton. I'm talking about the perception of why Stevens is a fit, and if you think him being a clean cut, boyish looking white guy isn't a big part, maybe the biggest part of that, you're delusional. People still view Duke through the 1990s lens when Laettner & Hurley were the faces of the program. It's not true, but the perception has never changed.

To say nothing of the fact that Brad Stevens is one of the great, young minds in basketball today, black or white.

[The Sultan]

To say nothing of the fact that Brad Stevens is one of the great, young minds in basketball today, black or white.

Which is true. But why Duke?  He's already coaching in the NBA, has no connection to the school, and didn't win at Butler the way K wins now.

[4everwarriors]

Which is true. But why Duke?  He's already coaching in the NBA, has no connection to the school, and didn't win at Butler the way K wins now.

Correct, there are zero rational thinking people who would honestly think Brad Stevens would take a step back from the Celtics to coach any collegiate program again.

[brewcity77]

To say nothing of the fact that Brad Stevens is one of the great, young minds in basketball today, black or white.

He is. But when people talk about Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas, and other blue bloods, Stevens' name never comes up. It's not a coincidence that he is constantly tied with the Duke job despite his only connection to Duke being a Gordon Hayward missed prayer.

[The Sultan]

He is. But when people talk about Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas, and other blue bloods, Stevens' name never comes up. It's not a coincidence that he is constantly tied with the Duke job despite his only connection to Duke being a Gordon Hayward missed prayer.

He did turn UCLA down in 2013, but yeah.

[4everwarriors]

I think the thought of him coaching Duke more likely follows the logic that Duke is the only iconic program Stevens would even consider leaving Boston for. I firmly believe race has nothing to do with this.

[The Sultan]

I think the thought of him coaching Duke more likely follows the logic that Duke is the only iconic program Stevens would even consider leaving Boston for. I firmly believe race has nothing to do with this.

I think Brew has it right that it harkens back to Duke of 20 years ago. And race is part of that.

[Cheeks]

To say nothing of the fact that Brad Stevens is one of the great, young minds in basketball today, black or white.

Exactly.  His acumen at basketball coaching is why Duke would hire him, his race has nothing to do with it.  Ridiculous it was even brought up and double-downed.  Absolutely ridiculous.  Duke wants to win college basketball games, they will try to hire the best coach regardless of any nonsense being thrown around here about race, creed, ethnicity or anything else.

[The Sultan]

Exactly.  His acumen at basketball coaching is why Duke would hire him, his race has nothing to do with it.  Ridiculous it was even brought up and double-downed.  Absolutely ridiculous.  Duke wants to win college basketball games, they will try to hire the best coach regardless of any nonsense being thrown around here about race, creed, ethnicity or anything else.

Learn to read bud.  No one said that Duke would hire him because he is white.

[WhoaJoe2020]

Learn to read bud.  No one said that Duke would hire him because he is white.

I believe he was saying that Stevens would appeal to the sensibilities of some members of the Duke faithful. And he's probably right.

[Cheeks]

I think the thought of him coaching Duke more likely follows the logic that Duke is the only iconic program Stevens would even consider leaving Boston for. I firmly believe race has nothing to do with this.

Amen Doc.  Exactly.  Well said.  And if he said no, well then it gets interesting, especially if Coach K has a strong hand in the selection.

[Cheeks]

I think Brew has it right that it harkens back to Duke of 20 years ago. And race is part of that.

Oh 20 years ago....so that's the deal....we're bringing stuff up from 20 years ago to make some kind of SJW point.  Sigh.  As stated, some people just cannot help themselves and have to interject it wherever they can.  Guilt or something.

[The Sultan]

Oh 20 years ago....so that's the deal....we're bringing stuff up from 20 years ago to make some kind of SJW point.  Sigh.  As stated, some people just cannot help themselves and have to interject it wherever they can.  Guilt or something.

What?  Seriously can't you comprehend English?

[The Sultan]

I believe he was saying that Stevens would appeal to the sensibilities of some members of the Duke faithful. And he's probably right.

Not even that. Just that these rumors persist in some people's minds because of that.

[mu03eng]

Did MU say no or did Mr. & Mrs. Ellenson?

Both

[Billy Hoyle]

I think Brew has it right that it harkens back to Duke of 20 years ago. And race is part of that.

Also, once Duke started recruiting more one and done guys than UK it wasn't "ruining college basketball" anymore.

[brewcity77]

Oh 20 years ago....so that's the deal....we're bringing stuff up from 20 years ago to make some kind of SJW point.  Sigh.  As stated, some people just cannot help themselves and have to interject it wherever they can.  Guilt or something.

Yes, because it's much better to ignore the painfully obvious reality that race is still impacting our society. Let me guess, you're proud to be colorblind too, right?

[The Sultan]

Yes, because it's much better to ignore the painfully obvious reality that race is still impacting our society. Let me guess, you're proud to be colorblind too, right?

He has a lot of black friends! 

[Cheeks]

He has a lot of black friends!

I have many friends of many races, but why does it matter?  Is it a contest?

[Cheeks]

Yes, because it's much better to ignore the painfully obvious reality that race is still impacting our society. Let me guess, you're proud to be colorblind too, right?

So we should inject this into everything on this board now or on,y when you feel a guilt trip?

[brewcity77]

So we should inject this into everything on this board now or on,y when you feel a guilt trip?

I don't feel a guilt trip, I'm just cognizant of the world we live in.