Bracketology 2019-2020

[jesmu84]

If teams below us (or near us) win a game in their tournament, that would give them a bump too.  Florida will be favorited to win a game against Georgia/Ole Miss.  UCLA will be favorited to win against Stanford/California.  Xavier will be favorited to beat DePaul.  Stanford is favorited against California.  NC State will be favorited against Wake/Pitt.  Texas Tech, the lone underdog, is not favorited against Texas.  That is five teams near us on the bubble that are favorited in their conference tournament games (we will be significant underdog). 

And, all of that is not considering that there could be bid thieves from other conferences.  The AAC, for instance, could have a bid thief from Wichita State/Cincinnati/Memphis/Tulsa/UConn.  The A10 could have a bid thief from Rhode Island/SLU. 

This board better be ready for the strong possibility we get bumped from the bubble on Sunday, due to teams around us all winning, and us continuing our slide.  If we beat SH, then it would solidify our spot.  If we lose, it could be catastrophic.

But that wasn't the statement.

It was stated that a loss to Seton Hall would knock us further down. Nothing to do with bid thieves (which would still effect us even with a win) or anything else. Purely another loss.

[brewcity77]

There is legitimate path towards MU being knocked out entirely before next Sunday.  According to Bracketville (#1 bracketology) we are one of the last four byes.  Yet another loss to Seton Hall (and sixth straight loss) will surely put us in the last four in.  With just 2-3 bid thieves, we could get knocked off the bubble entirely.

I just don't see how a team that can lose its last six straight games gets into the tournament.  Never recall that happening before.

Losing to Seton Hall won't hurt us much. Wins and losses this week are virtually irrelevant unless they are in a tournament final. Everyone acts like teams can play themselves in or out during Championship Week, but it's rarely the case. We will only move closer to the cut line in the event of bid thieves.

[jesmu84]

Losing to Seton Hall won't hurt us much. Wins and losses this week are virtually irrelevant unless they are in a tournament final. Everyone acts like teams can play themselves in or out during Championship Week, but it's rarely the case. We will only move closer to the cut line in the event of bid thieves.

Exactly

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Losing to Seton Hall won't hurt us much. Wins and losses this week are virtually irrelevant unless they are in a tournament final. Everyone acts like teams can play themselves in or out during Championship Week, but it's rarely the case. We will only move closer to the cut line in the event of bid thieves.

Its purely entertainment value.  I do think some of the teams right on the bubble can get hurt by losing to a legit bad team in the conference tourney - say Florida loses to Georgie/Ole Miss, Stanford loses to Cal, NC State to Wake/Pitt, Xavier to Depaul, etc.  But losing to a good team you're supposed to lose to isn't really going to hurt. 

[cheebs09]

Losing to Seton Hall won't hurt us much. Wins and losses this week are virtually irrelevant unless they are in a tournament final. Everyone acts like teams can play themselves in or out during Championship Week, but it's rarely the case. We will only move closer to the cut line in the event of bid thieves.

I think that was a big message last year. Most of the teams were picked as the P6 conference championships tipped off.

[muguru]

Its purely entertainment value.  I do think some of the teams right on the bubble can get hurt by losing to a legit bad team in the conference tourney - say Florida loses to Georgie/Ole Miss, Stanford loses to Cal, NC State to Wake/Pitt, Xavier to Depaul, etc.  But losing to a good team you're supposed to lose to isn't really going to hurt.

Tell Texas-Texas Tech that their tourney matchup this week doesn't matter. Loser is out. Winner likely IN

[mu03eng]

Tell Texas-Texas Tech that their tourney matchup this week doesn't matter. Loser is out. Winner likely IN

Those teams are on the bubble....MU is not

[BM1090]

Those teams are on the bubble....MU is not

Yep. No denying that one matters. Same with Stanford-UCLA assuming Stanford gets past Cal.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Wait...Chris Beard is on the bubble???

[mu03eng]

Wait...Chris Beard is on the bubble???

Yeah my bad, in my haste I went plural....never go full plural.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yeah my bad, in my haste I went plural....never go full plural.

No I'm just shocked that the coach some people here were breathlessly talking about as being a fantastic coach is in danger of not making the tournament.

[brewcity77]

Tell Texas-Texas Tech that their tourney matchup this week doesn't matter. Loser is out. Winner likely IN

According to some bracketologists that work for networks. I'm not at all convinced that's correct. I think Texas may need to win out.

[bilsu]

Why, at this point, would another loss to a ranked team knock us down further? I don't expect that would move any of our statistical rankings much

I do not think a close loss hurts us much especially if we beat the predicted net line. I would be very concerned, if we got beat badly in the game,

[bilsu]

Losing to Seton Hall won't hurt us much. Wins and losses this week are virtually irrelevant unless they are in a tournament final. Everyone acts like teams can play themselves in or out during Championship Week, but it's rarely the case. We will only move closer to the cut line in the event of bid thieves.

It is certainly the case for Xavier. Lose to DePaul and they are out. Beat DePaul and they are in.

[bilsu]

Question for someone who really understands the Net. Does it matter to us whether DePaul or Xavier wins the game?

[shoothoops]

Bracketville lists six teams above the bubble that could use a conference tourney win to dance. Marquette is listed as one of those teams:

https://twitter.com/BracketguyDave/status/1237130674492112908?s=19

[brewcity77]

It is certainly the case for Xavier. Lose to DePaul and they are out. Beat DePaul and they are in.

That's not a certainty at all. Games this week historically don't mean as much as regular season games, no matter what the committee says. Everyone says these are "play-in games" all the time, but historically that rarely seems to be the case.

[MUDPT]

MU fans are in a “bubble.” See how bad their team is playing and assume the worst. Where every bracket person of the 95 sees the whole picture of every team and places MU where they should be.

[BM1090]

ETSU beats Wofford. Unsure if they would have been given a bid, but that's irrelevant now. No bid thief from the SoCon.

[BM1090]

Gonzaga holds off San Francisco. No bid stealer from the WCC.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Final bracketmatrix update from late last night.

Marquette in 124/124 brackets. Still the top 9 seed.  Most have Marquette as 9.  Six brackets have them as 7, and two brackets as an 11.   

12 at large teams between Marquette and the NIT.

[GoldenDieners32]

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2020/03/07/bracketology-bubble-watch-ncaa-tournament-2020/

we're ok.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2020/03/07/bracketology-bubble-watch-ncaa-tournament-2020/

we're ok.

That article was written on Saturday, just FYI. 

[BM1090]

That article was written on Saturday, just FYI.

Saturday after the loss, though.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

I saw local breaking news.  Another team in the NCAA without playing the conference tournament:

Ivy League Men’s and Women’s Basketball Tournaments have been canceled. All tickets will be refunded in full. The Yale Men’s Basketball team is the League’s regular-season champions, so as a result, they will represent the Ivy League in the NCAA tournament.