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Bracketology 2019-2020
« on: January 04, 2020, 11:55:09 PM »
Lundari has 8 Big East teams in the Tourney (MU #8 seed).  St. Johns is among "next four out."  Only Providence is not in the mix.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

The all-time percentage record for a conference was the Big East in 1991 when 7 of 9 teams received bids (78%).  The all-time record for most bids was also the Big East in 2011 with 11 teams (16 team conference).

The most bids the "new" Big East received was 2017 with 7 (70%)
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2020, 12:10:34 PM »
Wadesworld predicting Sam Hauser as the next player to represent MU in the NBA
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2020, 12:14:49 PM »
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/

Marquette as a 6 playing virginia

Gimme some of that. Would love to see Markus and squad light up Virginia right in front of Sam while he's helpless to do anything
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2020, 12:20:40 PM »
Gimme some of that. Would love to see Markus and squad light up Virginia right in front of Sam while he's helpless to do anything

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2020, 12:29:45 PM »
Gimme some of that. Would love to see Markus and squad light up Virginia right in front of Sam while he's helpless to do anything

I don't have much ill will towards Sam...

...but a chance to show up Joey and Michigan State would be very nice

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2020, 12:32:40 PM »
I don't have much ill will towards Sam...

...but a chance to show up Joey and Michigan State would be very nice

Between the two I have more to Sam than Joey. Joey was a fling that had its ups and downs. Sam was a long term relationship that went up in flames. Between the two I'd much prefer to show up the later more than the former.
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2020, 12:50:24 PM »
Gimme some of that. Would love to see Markus and squad light up Virginia right in front of Sam while he's helpless to do anything

Careful what you wish for.

You honestly believe Wojo would have a prayer in figuring out how to crack Bennett’s stingy defense and “light up” UVA?!?   I think over under MU points in that matchup would be about 40. 
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2020, 01:04:34 PM »
Careful what you wish for.

You honestly believe Wojo would have a prayer in figuring out how to crack Bennett’s stingy defense and “light up” UVA?!?   I think over under MU points in that matchup would be about 40.
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2020, 01:08:11 PM »
This years Virginia?  Yeah I believe he could. Well Markus and company actually.

Sure, because we’ve been so impressive and Wojo has such an impressive history, especially in the tournament.  Bennett coaches circles around Wojo

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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2020, 01:13:42 PM »
We talking about this same UVA defense that gave up 69 to a Purdue team we held to 55?  Can't take a dump on Koby right now so you're gonna find somewhere else to blow smoke, and a hypothetical match-up that will in all likelihood never happen is the perfect place.  What a clutch move.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2020, 01:25:33 PM »
Sure, because we’ve been so impressive and Wojo has such an impressive history, especially in the tournament.  Bennett coaches circles around Wojo

Hahah.  It almost wouldn't matter.  It would be completely on Markus.  If he goes off Virginia wouldn't be able to keep up.  If he is off, or anything less than great, it could be pretty ugly.
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2020, 01:29:37 PM »
Careful what you wish for.

You honestly believe Wojo would have a prayer in figuring out how to crack Bennett’s stingy defense and “light up” UVA?!?   I think over under MU points in that matchup would be about 40.

Nothing I have to say that others haven't said in their responses. But if we lose, bummer we lost to the defending champs if we win, I get my wish and hope the team all send Sam middle finger emojis
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2020, 01:30:19 PM »
Sure, because we’ve been so impressive and Wojo has such an impressive history, especially in the tournament.  Bennett coaches circles around Wojo

I'm just saying, Bennett was the number 1 overall seed and lost to a 16.

Just saying.
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2020, 01:33:17 PM »
I'm just saying, Bennett was the number 1 overall seed and lost to a 16.


He also lost by 29 points to Purdue just a few weeks ago.

Excellent coach, but hardly invincible. Nobody is close to invincible this season.

Having said all that, I doubt Virginia/Bennett would be quaking in their boots at the prospects of facing Marquette/Wojo. We haven't earned that fear factor yet.
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2020, 01:34:38 PM »
Careful what you wish for.

You honestly believe Wojo would have a prayer in figuring out how to crack Bennett’s stingy defense and “light up” UVA?!?   I think over under MU points in that matchup would be about 40.

He somehow had a clue to overcome AP Coach the decade, Jay Wright multiple times last few years. 

It would be a tough assignment, but let’s not make it more than it is.
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2020, 07:32:48 PM »
Sure, because we’ve been so impressive and Wojo has such an impressive history, especially in the tournament.  Bennett coaches circles around Wojo

Do you also believe that Jay Wright coaches circles around Wojo?  Or is Bennett a different type coach?
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2020, 07:47:56 PM »
Do you also believe that Jay Wright coaches circles around Wojo?  Or is Bennett a different type coach?
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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2020, 08:31:01 AM »
Gentlemen. Arguing about 'Bracketology' in January? Or ever? What's next "Power Rankings"? Love your passion for MU hoops but Google 'click bait'.

It's a lot better than most of the ridiculous stuff people argue about on here.

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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2020, 09:01:35 AM »
It's a lot better than most of the ridiculous stuff people argue about on here.

Bingo.

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2020, 09:18:29 AM »
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Lunardi has us as a 6, Bracketmatrix still has us as a 7 although not all have been updated since the Nova win, and some haven't been updated since before conference play started.

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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2020, 01:46:16 PM »
This season is just so difficult not only for the bubble but for seeding after the top 20 or so teams.

Lunardi had Marquette as a 6 seed prior to the loss to Providence.

The teams on the 7 and 8 line were Creighton, Iowa, Texas Tech, Virginia, Wisconsin, Xavier, Colorado, and Arkansas.

Since Tuesday, those teams are 0-7, and some of those were bad losses. Virginia lost to BC. Wisconsin took a home loss. Iowa lost to Nebraska. Xavier took a home loss. Creighton took a home loss. Texas Tech took a home loss (albeit to top 5 Baylor)

The only team that didn't play was Colorado, and their most recent game was a bad home loss to Oregon State on Sunday.

All this to say that MU's loss to PC was bad but it's happening all over the country. There aren't many good teams. This season is a nightmare for separating resumes.
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« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2020, 02:33:52 PM »
This season is just so difficult not only for the bubble but for seeding after the top 20 or so teams.

Lunardi had Marquette as a 6 seed prior to the loss to Providence.

The teams on the 7 and 8 line were Creighton, Iowa, Texas Tech, Virginia, Wisconsin, Xavier, Colorado, and Arkansas.

Since Tuesday, those teams are 0-7, and some of those were bad losses. Virginia lost to BC. Wisconsin took a home loss. Iowa lost to Nebraska. Xavier took a home loss. Creighton took a home loss. Texas Tech took a home loss (albeit to top 5 Baylor)

The only team that didn't play was Colorado, and their most recent game was a bad home loss to Oregon State on Sunday.

All this to say that MU's loss to PC was bad but it's happening all over the country. There aren't many good teams. This season is a nightmare for separating resumes.

I feel like in general, the teams on the top four lines are pretty good. Once I get past there, it's really tough to separate teams. The difference between a 5 or 6 seed and the first teams out is pretty thin.

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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2020, 02:42:00 PM »
This season is just so difficult not only for the bubble but for seeding after the top 20 or so teams.

Lunardi had Marquette as a 6 seed prior to the loss to Providence.

The teams on the 7 and 8 line were Creighton, Iowa, Texas Tech, Virginia, Wisconsin, Xavier, Colorado, and Arkansas.

Since Tuesday, those teams are 0-7, and some of those were bad losses. Virginia lost to BC. Wisconsin took a home loss. Iowa lost to Nebraska. Xavier took a home loss. Creighton took a home loss. Texas Tech took a home loss (albeit to top 5 Baylor)

The only team that didn't play was Colorado, and their most recent game was a bad home loss to Oregon State on Sunday.

All this to say that MU's loss to PC was bad but it's happening all over the country. There aren't many good teams. This season is a nightmare for separating resumes.

Conference Tourneys will be much more significant in their meaning towards seeding if this keeps up.  1 extra conf. tourney win could bump you up several lines.

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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2020, 02:45:21 PM »
Conference Tourneys will be much more significant in their meaning towards seeding if this keeps up.  1 extra conf. tourney win could bump you up several lines.

Highly, highly unlikely. The Selection Committee usually has the bulk of seeding done by the first or second day of the conference tournaments. After that, results in the conference tournaments are really only contingencies for bid thieves and such. Unless you win the tourney outright, those games are the least influential in terms of seeding and will rarely move seeds. It's too difficult to retool on the fly because moving a team even one seed line can force the Committee to change the destinations of sometimes 10+ other already placed teams.

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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2020, 02:58:13 PM »
Highly, highly unlikely. The Selection Committee usually has the bulk of seeding done by the first or second day of the conference tournaments. After that, results in the conference tournaments are really only contingencies for bid thieves and such. Unless you win the tourney outright, those games are the least influential in terms of seeding and will rarely move seeds. It's too difficult to retool on the fly because moving a team even one seed line can force the Committee to change the destinations of sometimes 10+ other already placed teams.

Key word is usually.  I'd imagine if you had a dozen+ teams lumped together they'd extend the process further than prior years.  Or they could have several brackets setup already as templates - I imagine this is done by computer so they literally could prepare for this right off the bat. 

 

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