Bracketology 2019-2020

[GoldenDieners32]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2876930-how-much-does-seeding-really-matter-in-the-mens-ncaa-tournament

Solid read.

[Dr. Blackheart]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2876930-how-much-does-seeding-really-matter-in-the-mens-ncaa-tournament

Solid read.

So not a crapshoot...mostly.

[GoldenDieners32]

So not a crapshoot...mostly.

There's a chance!

[Windyplayer]

Auburn would kick the living sh*t out of Marquette.

Wait, what? Auburn is grossly overrated this year. They would be a gift for MU.

[BM1090]

Wait, what? Auburn is grossly overrated this year. They would be a gift for MU.

Eh. I agree they are overrated and not great but also agree with 12 that their personnel would give MU fits. I'm not sure we'd score much.

[GoldenDieners32]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/

would not love this draw

[GoldenDieners32]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[SaveOD238]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Holy crap this would be bad.

ETSU is one of the best mid-major teams outside of Gonzaga and SDSU.  Then Florida St's length?  We'd be toast.

[WolfganghisKhan]

I hate the fact that this is the second year in a row, I have to be nervous as a 5/6 seed in the first round. Unreal.

[Galway Eagle]

I hate the fact that this is the second year in a row, I have to be nervous as a 5/6 seed in the first round. Unreal.

Yeah it's frustrating, never been here before. Not during that stretch from 06-11. Nope we were better than 7, 8, 6, 6, 6, 11. And never had to be nervous because we kept getting certain second weekend appearances.

[shoothoops]

NBC Bracketville has MU as a 7 seed. They have consistently been one of the outlets that has MU a slightly worse seed than some others.

[WolfganghisKhan]

Yeah it's frustrating, never been here before. Not during that stretch from 06-11. Nope we were better than 7, 8, 6, 6, 6, 11. And never had to be nervous because we kept getting certain second weekend appearances.

06 - 7 seed (L)
07 - 8 (L)
08 - 6 (WL)
09 - 6 (WL)
10 - 6 (L by 2)
11 - 11 (WWL)
12 - 3 (WWL)
13 - 3 (WWWL)

Only bad one is '10. I'll take one bad one if we make the tourney 8 times in a row.

Just asking for one tourney win with the school's leading scorer isn't a lot to ask for.

15 - N/A
16 - N/A
17- 10 (L)
18 - N/A
19 - 5 (L by 20)
20 - TBD should be a 5-7 seed.

[Galway Eagle]

06 - 7 seed (L)
07 - 8 (L)
08 - 6 (WL)
09 - 6 (WL)
10 - 6 (L by 2)
11 - 11 (WWL)
12 - 3 (WWL)
13 - 3 (WWWL)

Only bad one is '10. I'll take one bad one if we make the tourney 8 times in a row.

Just asking for one tourney win with the school's leading scorer isn't a lot to ask for.

15 - N/A
16 - N/A
17- 10 (L)
18 - N/A
19 - 5 (L by 20)
20 - TBD should be a 5-7 seed.

Why're you including 12 and 13? I didn't mention those.

And why is 10 the only bad one? If you're a 7 or 8 seed are you not supposed to win as you're the higher seed?

I'm just saying, maybe wait till the tournament because given your posting history these past couple years you were likely flipping a sh*t about 2011 but now you're perfectly content with that season let alone 06, 07, 08, 09. Who's to say it won't be the same?

[WolfganghisKhan]

Why're you including 12 and 13? I didn't mention those.

And why is 10 the only bad one? If you're a 7 or 8 seed are you not supposed to win as you're the higher seed?

I'm just saying, maybe wait till the tournament because given your posting history these past couple years you were likely flipping a sh*t about 2011 but now you're perfectly content with that season let alone 06, 07, 08, 09. Who's to say it won't be the same?

I included every single year since 06 for completeness. Because 7/10 and 8/9 matchups are much closer to #crapshoots (big Scoop term) than 6/11, 5/12 matchups. I wouldn't be fine with losing as a 7 but I'll compromise with the rest of you lots. I just expect us to not need to worry about a 5/12 or 6/11 matchup,  yet were out here afraid of some teams because we could have a good possibility of losing.

[SaveOD238]

06 - 7 seed (L)
07 - 8 (L)
08 - 6 (WL)
09 - 6 (WL)
10 - 6 (L by 2)
11 - 11 (WWL)
12 - 3 (WWL)
13 - 3 (WWWL)

Only bad one is '10. I'll take one bad one if we make the tourney 8 times in a row.

Just asking for one tourney win with the school's leading scorer isn't a lot to ask for.

15 - N/A
16 - N/A
17- 10 (L)
18 - N/A
19 - 5 (L by 20)
20 - TBD should be a 5-7 seed.

FWIW, we only over performed our seed twice in those 8 years (2011 and 13), played to seed three times (08, 09, and '12), and underperformed our seed three times (06, 07, and '10).

Under Wojo we've underperformed once ('19) and performed to seed once ('17).  We're due to over-perform once now!

[fjm]

Yeah I'm with Galway. Why weren't you upset when we were a 7 and lost j in n the first round.

Your goalposts kinda moved after your original statement.

[Galway Eagle]

I included every single year since 06 for completeness. Because 7/10 and 8/9 matchups are much closer to #crapshoots (big Scoop term) than 6/11, 5/12 matchups. I wouldn't be fine with losing as a 7 but I'll compromise with the rest of you lots. I just expect us to not need to worry about a 5/12 or 6/11 matchup,  yet were out here afraid of some teams because we could have a good possibility of losing.

Idk how one seed line can be "much closer" to being a crapshoot, but if that's what you want...

I expect us to not worry about it as well, but I reiterate my point about seeing how it plays out since we hovered around this same point seed wise for 6/8 years of that run. It seems like you've resigned this season as no tournament wins before the tournament even begins.

[GoldenDieners32]

NBC Bracketville has MU as a 7 seed. They have consistently been one of the outlets that has MU a slightly worse seed than some others.

i would love to play Virginia first round and see Sam on the bench not being able to do anything while Howard scores 60

[JakeBarnes]

i would love to play Virginia first round and see Sam on the bench not being able to do anything while Howard scores 60

And Markus passes the ball to Sam on the bench as the clock runs out and we go on to victory.

[IL Warrior]

I included every single year since 06 for completeness. Because 7/10 and 8/9 matchups are much closer to #crapshoots (big Scoop term) than 6/11, 5/12 matchups. I wouldn't be fine with losing as a 7 but I'll compromise with the rest of you lots. I just expect us to not need to worry about a 5/12 or 6/11 matchup,  yet were out here afraid of some teams because we could have a good possibility of losing.

5 seeds win 64% of the time
6 seeds win 63% of the time
7 seeds win 61% of the time

1. Apparently 61% is "much closer" to being a crapshoot than 63%.
2. Every 5, 6, or 7 seed is worried about losing. 10-12 seeds are good teams (37-48 overall, in theory). They collectively win 37% of their first round games. Do you really think #24 (last 6) is a lock to beat #41 (first 11) on a neutral court?

[Johnny B]

Are people aware that in the NCAA tournament you have to play a diffrent ncca tournament team?

[WolfganghisKhan]

Are people aware that in the NCAA tournament you have to play a diffrent ncca tournament team?

What? Are you sure?!

[WolfganghisKhan]

5 seeds win 64% of the time
6 seeds win 63% of the time
7 seeds win 61% of the time

1. Apparently 61% is "much closer" to being a crapshoot than 63%.
2. Every 5, 6, or 7 seed is worried about losing. 10-12 seeds are good teams (37-48 overall, in theory). They collectively win 37% of their first round games. Do you really think #24 (last 6) is a lock to beat #41 (first 11) on a neutral court?

#crapshoot

[MUBigDance]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2876930-how-much-does-seeding-really-matter-in-the-mens-ncaa-tournament

Solid read.

Thanks Very Good.

I have always dreaded the 8,9 seed because of that second game against almost certainly a #1.  I would rather be a 10,11,12.

Sweet 16 is really my hope for MU. E8 is just dreamy frosting.

I think this article sort of suports that. 9's dont get to the s16 like 10,11s   and the only good thing about the 8 seed is their relatively positive chance at the e8 if they make it to s16.

So avoid 8,9.....my preferred seed for MU:  1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12,11,10,8,9

[BM1090]

34, 35, 39, 41, 42 and 46 on Bracketville s curve all lost, for anyone irrationally worried about Marquette's spot in the tournament. We'll lock a bid up on Wednesday.