Bracketology 2019-2020

[BM1090]

7 Seed at CBS

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/

Lunardi had us as a 6 seed in his latest update on Saturday.

[GoldenDieners32]

Just a question: which bracketologist/website is most accurate every year?

[BM1090]

Just a question: which bracketologist/website is most accurate every year?

Dave Ommen, who runs Bracketville and recently had his bracket taken on by NBC, has been the most accurate over the past 5 years.  It's why I include his bracket along with ESPN and CBS

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Jerry Palms updated bracket would be such an amazing draw.

https://twitter.com/jppalmcbs/status/1221865773469196289?s=21

[BM1090]

Jerry Palms updated bracket would be such an amazing draw.

https://twitter.com/jppalmcbs/status/1221865773469196289?s=21

Dayton would be a brutal 2nd round matchup. They are awesome this year and I don't think we'd have any answer for Crutcher or Toppin.

I like the first round matchup against VT, though.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Dayton would be a brutal 2nd round matchup. They are awesome this year and I don't think we'd have any answer for Crutcher or Toppin.

I like the first round matchup against VT, though.

Agree to disagree.  As a 7 seed, I would absolutely love Dayton as the 2 seed in my region.  Much prefer Dayton to other possible 2 seeds like Duke, Oregon, Michigan State, Florida State, Louisiville, etc.

I have watched Dayton several times this year.  They're legit. Most 2 seeds are (I don't think they'll actually be a 2 seed come tourney time).  I'd still take my chances with them over the aforementioned teams as my 2nd round matchup. 

[HowardsWorld]

I still have faith in this team that we can get as high as a 4-5 seed. We would hold a 4 seed if we didnt lose to butler or providence. The chips are likely to fall in our favor eventually. Still have lots of games to build a resume with. Home games vs Butler, Seton Hall, Creighton.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I still have faith in this team that we can get as high as a 4-5 seed. We would hold a 4 seed if we didnt lose to butler or providence. The chips are likely to fall in our favor eventually. Still have lots of games to build a resume with. Home games vs Butler, Seton Hall, Creighton.

Agreed.  A 4 seed is definitely possible if we can closed the season as follows:

W @ X
W vs. Depaul
W. vs. Butler
L @ Nova
W vs. Creighton
W @ PC
W vs. Gtown
L vs. Seton Hall
W vs. Depaul
W @ SJU

12-6 record in conference.  Can move the losses around as you please, not sure it matters much. Tough task for sure, but that should be good enough to get into the top 16 seeds this season. 

[Silkk the Shaka]

Just a question: which bracketologist/website is most accurate every year?

Definitely not Jerry Palm

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html

85th out of 133? Bottom tercile?? Routinely swirlied by amateur hobbyists??? And the guy gets paid to do this???? Embarrassing!

[Marcus92]

12-6 record in conference. Can move the losses around as you please, not sure it matters much. Tough task for sure, but that should be good enough to get into the top 16 seeds this season.

Agreed. Finishing the regular season at 22-8 (12-6) would likely put Marquette at 2nd in the Big East, the second-toughest conference in college basketball this season. (Since the realignment, no team has won the league title with fewer than 13 wins.) Regardless of how we do in the conference tournament, that should be worth at least a 4-seed in the NCAA tourney -- maybe even better.

Finish 11-7 and we're probably somewhere in the range of a 5-seed or 6-seed.

[WhoaJoe2020]

Agreed.  A 4 seed is definitely possible if we can closed the season as follows:

W @ X
W vs. Depaul
W. vs. Butler
L @ Nova
W vs. Creighton
W @ PC
W vs. Gtown
L vs. Seton Hall
W vs. Depaul
W @ SJU

12-6 record in conference.  Can move the losses around as you please, not sure it matters much. Tough task for sure, but that should be good enough to get into the top 16 seeds this season.

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With Greg hurt and Symir not quite ready for prime time, Markus will have to carry much of the load through the end of the season. The odds of Markus staying healthy enough to achieve a winning record in conference is a coin flip at best.

I hope some of these projection turn out to be close to right. Realistically I think 9-9 in conference would be a good record for Marquette this season.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

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With Greg hurt and Symir not quite ready for prime time, Markus will have to carry much of the load through the end of the season. The odds of Markus staying healthy enough to achieve a winning record in conference is a coin flip at best.

I hope some of these projection turn out to be close to right. Realistically I think 9-9 in conference would be a good record for Marquette this season.

To be clear, that wasn't a projection.  Just saying a 4 seed is possible. 

Anything 8-10 or better and we're in.  Gun to head, I'd go with 10-8. 

[Marcus92]

I'd go with 10-8.

I'd agree with this, as well. I think this team still has the potential to raise its level of play. But based solely on what we've seen to date, this looks like a 10-8 team to me.

[fjm]

I would take a 10-8.

But this team is going 9-9.

We have the pieces. But we also don't have the depth at certain spots. I expect 2 more blow out wins.

But also expect 2 more close ass losses.

Also. I'd like to mention the GLARING absence of certain posters in this thread about teams expectations and positive rankings/seedlings despite the losses.

[BM1090]

7 seed in Lunardi today

[Billy Hoyle]

Agreed. Finishing the regular season at 22-8 (12-6) would likely put Marquette at 2nd in the Big East, the second-toughest conference in college basketball this season. (Since the realignment, no team has won the league title with fewer than 13 wins.) Regardless of how we do in the conference tournament, that should be worth at least a 4-seed in the NCAA tourney -- maybe even better.

Finish 11-7 and we're probably somewhere in the range of a 5-seed or 6-seed.

Second?  The ceiling is third with the way The Hall and Nova are playing and are ahead of us in the standings. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Second?  The ceiling is third with the way The Hall and Nova are playing and are ahead of us in the standings.

Not necessarily. Both teams had easier starts to their conference season. They still have to play each other twice, Nova has at Butler still to come and Seton Hall has at Marquette and at Creighton. One of those two teams sweeps the other one and they are in striking distance. Nova especially hasn't been blowing people out, they have single digit wins vs X, vs DePaul, and at Providence. Do I think we end up in second? No. I think 3rd or 4th is much more likely but I don't think saying the ceiling is 2nd is unrealistic.

[GoldenDieners32]

We're up to the 2nd highest 7 seed behind Rutgers

[fjm]

Give me 4 more wins. That's enough for me.

I want 5 more wins.

But 4 more would make me happy. 9-9. Please.

[Its DJOver]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Lunardi has us back to a 6.  Bracketmatrix still has us as the 2nd 7.

[Pakuni]

The Athletic's Bracketwatch has MU as a 7 seed playing St. Mary's in Cleveland.
Potential second-round game vs West Virginia ... which I actually like more than the first-round matchup.

[SaveOD238]

Give me 4 more wins. That's enough for me.

I want 5 more wins.

But 4 more would make me happy. 9-9. Please.

I'm usually someone who preaches realistic expectations and patience, but man...all these people hoping for 9-9 are driving me nuts.

Look at our remaining games

DePaul
Butler
@Villanova
Creighton
@Providence
Georgetown
Seton Hall
@DePaul
@St. Johns

How can you look at that schedule and only think we will win 4 more?  We've already beaten Villanova, Georgetown, and St. Johns.  We took Providence and Butler to overtime.  DePaul is DePaul.  We get two of the best teams in conference (Seton Hall and Butler) at home.

I think we win 4/5 home games and 2/4 on the road.  That would get us to 11-7.  I'm disappointed with anything less (unless Howard is out...)

[bilsu]

I'm usually someone who preaches realistic expectations and patience, but man...all these people hoping for 9-9 are driving me nuts.

Look at our remaining games

DePaul
Butler
@Villanova
Creighton
@Providence
Georgetown
Seton Hall
@DePaul
@St. Johns

How can you look at that schedule and only think we will win 4 more?  We've already beaten Villanova, Georgetown, and St. Johns.  We took Providence and Butler to overtime.  DePaul is DePaul.  We get two of the best teams in conference (Seton Hall and Butler) at home.

I think we win 4/5 home games and 2/4 on the road.  That would get us to 11-7.  I'm disappointed with anything less (unless Howard is out...)

I agree with you as long as the Howard injury is not a factor. We went 5-4 in the first half with 5 of the games being on the road. Now we have 5 home games in the last nine. What is interesting is our last two games on the road. I am hoping to have 9 wins going onto the last two games.

[rocky_warrior]

How can you look at that schedule and only think we will win 4 more? 

Honestly? I think people are still shell shocked from last year's collapse. Myself included.

[Its DJOver]

Honestly? I think people are still shell shocked from last year's collapse. Myself included.

Also, while we've played better since the 1-3 start history tells us there'll be a dud game somewhere.  We're currently 4-0 against the bottom 4 in the conference, I would be pretty surprised if we finish 8-0 against them.  We'll trip up somewhere.