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panda

Quote from: Cheeks on January 02, 2020, 08:02:23 PM
He left when he did because it was the only shot he would have to get drafted so highly.  That draft class was one of the worst in the last 25 years.  If he plays another year or two years, he gets drafted nowhere close to that high.

He should've stayed four years. He would've been the number 1 pick!

jonny09

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on January 02, 2020, 09:00:06 PM
You're comparing him to two 4 year players!!!

Which does circle back however to my original point had he just stayed couple more years..,

Also didn't help that Henry was/is an absolutely atrocious defender with heavy feet.  And yes, his shot was always average at best and it got worse while in Detroit.

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on January 02, 2020, 09:00:06 PM
You're comparing him to two 4 year players!!!

Which does circle back however to my original point had he just stayed couple more years..,

Yeah, what is Wojo's record concerning player development anyways?  Mmmmhhhhhmmm 

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 02, 2020, 08:18:38 PM
Yeah still doesn't make it a high major job. You're either a high major based on conference, or you win enough to be considered above your level like Gonzaga

A10- Mid Major, upper echelon but still mid major

10 NCAA appearances All time- not impressive certainly not enough to not be a mid major

End of the day you cannot be someone calling for Wojos head because of lack of success then turn around and call SLU a high major.

Fine, I misstated. They're better described a mid major, who hits high major now and then (Spoonhour years too).

The nit picking and petty arguments  on this board that misses the forest for the trees makes your head spin

Pakuni

LaSalle loses by 26 at home to Dayton.
It really wasn't that close.

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: Pakuni on January 02, 2020, 09:39:39 PM
LaSalle loses by 26 at home to Dayton.
It really wasn't that close.

Patience... let him get recruit and develop his guys first.  You've given Wojo ....... 6 years now?

Cheeks

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 02, 2020, 09:19:56 PM
Yeah, what is Wojo's record concerning player development anyways?  Mmmmhhhhhmmm

Markus Howard...development.

Sacar Anim...development

Cain and Elliott we shall see, both were 3 stars

Bailey much better year two than year one

Etc etc
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Pakuni

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 02, 2020, 09:50:47 PM
Patience... let him get recruit and develop his guys first.  You've given Wojo ....... 6 years now?

Don't think Wojo ever lost a conference home game by 26.
But regardless, this isn't about Wojo. It's about whether the guy you think should replace him is up to the task.

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Yeah, how's Howard's defense doing?  I'd argue he hasn't developed as much as he should have overall.  He's always been a shooter. Still, He's a liability on the defensive side of the ball which is why he won't see the NBA.

Cheeks

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 02, 2020, 10:47:11 PM
Yeah, how's Howard's defense doing?  I'd argue he hasn't developed as much as he should have overall.  He's always been a shooter. Still, He's a liability on the defensive side of the ball which is why he won't see the NBA.

His defense is better now than it was a few years ago....I believe most of the evidence supports this.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

WarriorFan

1.  Doc.  After the Clips get knocked out of the playoffs with the most talented roster in the NBA (well, at least one of the top 3), offer him the spot.   
2.  Diener.  I like the concept of alumni as coach... but I really think Wardle is a horrible recruiter and not a great coach.  Would rather take a punt on Diener.  Plus I'd like to see if he can land 1-2 Euro-recruits that would be under the radar for other programs.
3.  Wade.  He needs to do something other than post beach photos on his instagram.

And given MU's ability to tolerate coaches who are a little bit "different"... in fact my first real phone call would be to Becky Hammon.  Tapping into Pop's legacy and NBA style player development would be timely when the 18 year old rule comes back.
"The meaning of life isn't gnashing our bicuspids over what comes after death but tasting the tiny moments that come before it."

Pakuni

Hiring a former star player with minimal experience seems like a great idea. I mean, look how well it worked for St. John's.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on January 02, 2020, 07:46:10 PM
SLU is not a high major school? I didn't say they're an elite program. But they compete with the big boys

No.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Cheeks

Quote from: Pakuni on January 02, 2020, 11:08:19 PM
Hiring a former star player with minimal experience seems like a great idea. I mean, look how well it worked for St. John's.

Or Houston with Clyde Drexler

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Dan Fitzgerald has coached more tournament wins than Wojo will ever sniff.  #HireDan #CantMissWithFitz

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Cheeks on January 02, 2020, 10:40:07 PM
Markus Howard...development.

Sacar Anim...development

Cain and Elliott we shall see, both were 3 stars

Bailey much better year two than year one

Etc etc

Some say Bailey's on his way to being an "all timer".

brewcity77

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 03, 2020, 12:22:52 AM
Dan Fitzgerald has coached more tournament wins than Wojo will ever sniff.  #HireDan #CantMissWithFitz

Dan hasn't coached any of those teams.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on January 02, 2020, 10:47:11 PM
Yeah, how's Howard's defense doing?  I'd argue he hasn't developed as much as he should have overall.  He's always been a shooter. Still, He's a liability on the defensive side of the ball which is why he won't see the NBA.

His defense has much improved and he is also a little bit of a slasher inside, teardrops, takes a hit with best of them, gotta penetrate more then dish back out to BB, GE or even Jamal
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

GoldenDieners32


Uncle Rico

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TallTitan34

It's sad I can't tell what is meant to be serious and what is meant to be a joke in this thread.

Cheeks

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 03, 2020, 09:16:29 AM
It's sad I can't tell what is meant to be serious and what is meant to be a joke in this thread.

This
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 03, 2020, 09:12:10 AM
Bring in Bo Ellis, at least he won a Final 4 game

Two final four games
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Galway Eagle

Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

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