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Re: MU Coaching Candidates
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2020, 02:51:02 PM »
What makes you think he can win with one borderline 5 star and 2 four stars when he cant win with an all american, sacar, and a solid supporting cast in bailey, elliott, and Cain

Did I miss the whole season? Did we lose all our remaining games??

Also, made my account long before these jokers and support the current coach.

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2020, 02:53:37 PM »
Mike Deane was a better coach than Wojo.  The results speak for themselves.

And in all honesty, there can never be enough anti Wojo threads.  The guy needs to go because he's doing immense harm to the program, long term by continually bringing in soft, finesse players.  Why he gets support is beyond me.  I think it's a microcosm of a larger problem in America where people would rather avoid conflict and stick with the mundane/mediocre.

I've been around since 2014 but am proud to see that Deane's Seat Belt account was created during my hiatus.

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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2020, 02:58:18 PM »
What makes you think he can win with one borderline 5 star and 2 four stars when he cant win with an all american, sacar, and a solid supporting cast in bailey, elliott, and Cain

Hanniff Cheatam and Matt Heldt were rated 4 star recruits so I'm not holding my breath here.  Nothing is guaranteed when it comes to recruiting rankings.  There have been many 4* recruits that have busted. 

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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2020, 03:18:17 PM »
Brain Dutcher at San Diego State might be worth some due diligence..

Ritchie McKay at Liberty

Steve Forbess at East Tennessee State

Bob Richey at Furman

Ben Jacobsen at Northern Iowa

All kinds of potential options that could be explored.


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Re: MU Coaching Candidates
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2020, 03:18:43 PM »
Hanniff Cheatam and Matt Heldt were rated 4 star recruits so I'm not holding my breath here.  Nothing is guaranteed when it comes to recruiting rankings.  There have been many 4* recruits that have busted.

How many mid-major coaches have busted when getting a P6 job?

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« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2020, 03:25:20 PM »
Well, you have to perform your due diligence.  If a coach has great X's and O's, has developed players, and has displayed propensity to over-recruit for the program, I think it builds a strong case for consideration.  The Xs and O's  and player development always translate.  The recruiting is the question mark.

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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2020, 03:32:47 PM »
Brain Dutcher at San Diego State might be worth some due diligence..

Ritchie McKay at Liberty

Steve Forbess at East Tennessee State

Bob Richey at Furman

Ben Jacobsen at Northern Iowa

All kinds of potential options that could be explored.

McKay? Lol you're upset at Wojo's winning and want McKay?

Jacobsen and Forbes are interesting names

Don't know enough about Richey
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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2020, 03:41:37 PM »
Zero chance that Steve Forbes would be hired by Marquette.
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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2020, 03:42:14 PM »
Hologram Al.

Otherwise, I'm fine with Wojo and his incoming class.

Sorry, but before MU goes that direction some hard questions must be asked.

Can a hologram ride a motorcycle?

Can a hologram pick up a lead toy soldier and carry it up to the cash register at a rural Wisconsin Antique store?

On the other hand, Hologram Al could increase in size to intimidate the refs every time he wanted to dispute a call.  That'd be cool to see.
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« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2020, 03:48:41 PM »
How many mid-major coaches have busted when getting a P5 job?

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« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2020, 03:50:33 PM »
Not a name listed yet that tops Wojo and the 20 class.     Deane couldn't recruit his way out of a trash bag.    A more apt comp is to Crean without Wade.   
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« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2020, 03:53:00 PM »
Did I miss the whole season? Did we lose all our remaining games??

Also, made my account long before these jokers and support the current coach.

Yes, they canceled the season last night....well some people did.   :D
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« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2020, 03:54:09 PM »
Zero chance that Steve Forbes would be hired by Marquette.

What about Teve Torbes? The ladies love Teve Torbes.

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« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2020, 04:23:17 PM »
Zero chance that Steve Forbes would be hired by Marquette.
why do you say this?

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« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2020, 04:25:21 PM »
why do you say this?


Because of his connection with Pearl and his NCAA violations, and the way he builds teams through the Juco ranks.  He's like a dirtier version of Buzz.
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Re: MU Coaching Candidates
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2020, 04:27:02 PM »
Brain Dutcher at San Diego State might be worth some due diligence..

Ritchie McKay at Liberty

Steve Forbess at East Tennessee State

Bob Richey at Furman

Ben Jacobsen at Northern Iowa

All kinds of potential options that could be explored.

No need to take this post seriously after Ritchie McKay was suggested.

Oh yeah, here's Ben Jacobson's buyout from UNI. Is MU going to pay that in addition to the $2 million salary he'd command?
Total Compensation: $900,000
Additional Compensation: None
Notes: $400,000 in base salary, $200,000 in media fees, $175,000 in appearance fees, $125,000 in annual longevity payment
Max Bonus: $430,0000
Buyout if Fired Without Cause: 100% of remaining $7.9 million (includes 2019-20 compensation)
Buyout if Coach Terminates Contract: 30% of remaining $7.9 million (includes 2019-20 compensation)
Contract Term Ends: March 31, 2027

Let's be more realistic here, people.  Roy Williams, Coach K, the ghost of John Wooden, Tom Izzo, they'll all be beating down the doors to get out of their current situations to come to MU. I mean, look at all of the high profile names we had to turn down the last time around.

No, I'm not a Wojo can do no wrong guy. I like the dude, he represents the university with class and dignity, is a strong member of the MU community and brings in good kids - the polar opposite of Buzz. That said, I think a staff shake-up is in order. I'm not impressed with Johnson. This board's love with him reminds me of the fasciation fans have with the back-up QB.  If he were so great he'd be at a Power 5 program or a HC by now. Wojo needs someone who isn't a yes man.
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« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2020, 05:22:11 PM »
Whoever they hire, I’ll be the first to call for him to be fired.

I’ll research top assistants and let you know who the candidates really are
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« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2020, 05:42:44 PM »
How long does the new coach from pisskicker st get before the same people on this board wanna fire him too?

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« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2020, 05:45:22 PM »
How long does the new coach from pisskicker st get before the same people on this board wanna fire him too?

Here is my list of realistic coaching options that Marquette should consider:

1a. Tony Bennett
1b. Chris Beard
3. Chris Holtmann
4. Brad Stevens
5. Reanimated corpse of Al McGuire
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« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2020, 05:46:52 PM »
How long does the new coach from pisskicker st get before the same people on this board wanna fire him too?

All it took was one bad loss to Dayton before Buzz was declared in over his head and should never have been hired.

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« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2020, 05:47:18 PM »
Here is my list of realistic coaching options that Marquette should consider:

1a. Tony Bennett
1b. Chris Beard
3. Chris Holtmann
4. Brad Stevens
5. Reanimated corpse of Al McGuire

The fifth option is the only one that's realistic.

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« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2020, 05:49:29 PM »
The fifth option is the only one that's realistic.

I was alive in 1977.  All those choices are realistic
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« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2020, 06:04:24 PM »
I was alive in 1977.  All those choices are realistic

It's not 1977 anymore.  What makes MU a better program than OSU, UVA, Texas Tech (Beard's dream job) and the Boston Celtics?

Here's a link to buyouts for coaches mentioned, except for Bennett (not made available) and Stevens, and considering his success in the NBA there's a better chance or me coaching at MU than him.

https://watchstadium.com/news/college-basketball-coaching-salary-and-buyout-database-for-2019-20-season-10-24-2019/

Holtmann's buyout:
Buyout if Coach Terminates Contract: 100% of remaining $16.2 million if prior to June 10, 2021 (includes 2019-20 compensation) – $2.7 million prorated annually through the remainder of the agreement (from base salary, media payment, equipment payment and beverage sponsor payment)
Contract Term Ends: June 30, 2025

Beard's buyout:
Buyout if Coach Terminates Contract: If coach accepts a position at another NCAA school in Texas or in the Big 12: $6 million through March 31, 2020, $5 million from April 1, 2020 through March 31, 2021; if coach accepts a position in the NBA or another NCAA school that’s not in Texas or the Big 12: $3 million through March 31, 2020, $2.5 million from April 1, 2020 through March 31, 2021; all liquidated damages for coach reduced by 50% if Kirby Hocutt is no longer Texas Tech’s AD on the date when coach terminates his contract

There's a reason MU has gone the assistant route the last three times.
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« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2020, 06:05:51 PM »
It's not 1977 anymore.  What makes MU a better program than OSU, UVA, Texas Tech (Beard's dream job) and the Boston Celtics?

Here's a link to buyouts for coaches mentioned, except for Bennett (not made available) and Stevens, and considering his success in the NBA there's a better chance or me coaching at MU than him.

https://watchstadium.com/news/college-basketball-coaching-salary-and-buyout-database-for-2019-20-season-10-24-2019/

Holtmann's buyout:
Buyout if Coach Terminates Contract: 100% of remaining $16.2 million if prior to June 10, 2021 (includes 2019-20 compensation) – $2.7 million prorated annually through the remainder of the agreement (from base salary, media payment, equipment payment and beverage sponsor payment)
Contract Term Ends: June 30, 2025

Beard's buyout:
Buyout if Coach Terminates Contract: If coach accepts a position at another NCAA school in Texas or in the Big 12: $6 million through March 31, 2020, $5 million from April 1, 2020 through March 31, 2021; if coach accepts a position in the NBA or another NCAA school that’s not in Texas or the Big 12: $3 million through March 31, 2020, $2.5 million from April 1, 2020 through March 31, 2021; all liquidated damages for coach reduced by 50% if Kirby Hocutt is no longer Texas Tech’s AD on the date when coach terminates his contract

There's a reason MU has gone the assistant route the last three times.

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